Dept. of Education Staff Ordered to Leave Building by 6pm today

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow. I would’ve expected more people would have worked there?

Also, everyone gets paid through June 9th? That is actually a generous severance.

But who is going to take care of what the DOE did previously? Will there be more jobs in state education departments now?

Apparently it’s the smallest staff of the cabinet agencies.

It did not even exist in the 1970s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow. I would’ve expected more people would have worked there?

Also, everyone gets paid through June 9th? That is actually a generous severance.

But who is going to take care of what the DOE did previously? Will there be more jobs in state education departments now?

Apparently it’s the smallest staff of the cabinet agencies.

It did not even exist in the 1970s.

We had a lot of "slow" people in my class in the 70s. They disappeared from the school system eventually. Would have been nice for them to get some kind of education

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What will the republicans complain about next when nothing changes education-wise because curriculums were already set by the states not the federal government?

Common Core? Why did New Hampshire drop federal funding?

Common Core was a state initiative. The federal government wasn't involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow. I would’ve expected more people would have worked there?

Also, everyone gets paid through June 9th? That is actually a generous severance.

But who is going to take care of what the DOE did previously? Will there be more jobs in state education departments now?

Apparently it’s the smallest staff of the cabinet agencies.

It did not even exist in the 1970s.

We had a lot of "slow" people in my class in the 70s. They disappeared from the school system eventually. Would have been nice for them to get some kind of education

+1 and the very significantly disabled were kept at home or resided in institutions

[Anonymous]

I guess libertarians need to find out the hard way that their "utopian" society is mostly unlivable, except for the very wealthy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow. I would’ve expected more people would have worked there?

Also, everyone gets paid through June 9th? That is actually a generous severance.

But who is going to take care of what the DOE did previously? Will there be more jobs in state education departments now?

Apparently it’s the smallest staff of the cabinet agencies.

It did not even exist in the 1970s.

So? By that logic, let's get rid of DHS and ice since it wasn't formed until 2003. And the EPA which didn't exist until 1970. Or UDoT which wasn't around until 1967.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Rep. Mark Takano is one thousand percent correct — closing the Department of Education ensures America’s schools will resegregate. Tragic day in America.

Schools are more segregated in the northeast than they are in “red states”

Source for this statement? It probably because there are more minorities.

The century foundation — pretty center left / progressive dem think tank

https://tcf.org/content/report/school-segregation-in-u-s-metro-areas/#:~:text=School%20segregation%20is%20most%20extreme,%2C%20and%20Asian%E2%80%93White%20segregation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess libertarians need to find out the hard way that their "utopian" society is mostly unlivable, except for the very wealthy.

Those libertarians will discover that they can't live without the Department of Education bureaucrats. They were the ones holding this country together.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow. I would’ve expected more people would have worked there?

Also, everyone gets paid through June 9th? That is actually a generous severance.

But who is going to take care of what the DOE did previously? Will there be more jobs in state education departments now?

Apparently it’s the smallest staff of the cabinet agencies.

It did not even exist in the 1970s.

We had a lot of "slow" people in my class in the 70s. They disappeared from the school system eventually. Would have been nice for them to get some kind of education

+1 and the very significantly disabled were kept at home or resided in institutions

Are you saying this like its a good or bad thing?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what isreplaces it? Vouchers for the poor masses to send their kids to the fundamentalist Christian school of their choice?

Lots of really uneducated kids being "homeschooled"

I was home schooled, because school was failing me. Went back and ended up graduating top ten.

I learned first-hand how inefficient school is. When I could get all the lessons done by the time the bus got to school.

That doesn’t make school inefficient. That means school is done at scale and your being homeschooled was done only for you.

People really need to understand efficiency better.

Not PP but Yes, educating humans at scale --especially K-8 --is dehumanizing and inefficient. It's done bc in our country education is inextricably linked with childcare. We do it like this bc we've created a society where both parents have to work. But it is hardly any kind of "gold standard" for educating children and it causes a lot of family conflict. Part of burning the Dept of Ed to the ground is a reflection of a larger zeitgeist back to hyperlocal governance. People hate having their families lives impacted by such massive systems of governance and this is partly a symbolic rejection of that

Sure, it works if one parent, most likely the mother, doesn’t work and devotes the next 18 years to teaching, sure. Or you’re so wealthy you can hiring a governess and a handful of teachers (with the appropriate degrees) to do your bidding.

American public school education is the most expensive in the world because of teachers unions, administrators, embezzlement, and federal meddling. Eliminate the whole thing and the average family could have $35,000 a year per child to spend on education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about student loans? Should we forget about the FAFSA now? My sympathies to all impacted employees. This administration is sloppy, vindictive and destroying programs that Americans are using.

"The forms, the forms, who will process the forms?! Okay, I admit, it probably shouldn't cost $250 BILLION each year to process the forms, but still! They're cutting too deep! They need to leave a few brave souls behind to process the forms!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about student loans? Should we forget about the FAFSA now? My sympathies to all impacted employees. This administration is sloppy, vindictive and destroying programs that Americans are using.

"The forms, the forms, who will process the forms?! Okay, I admit, it probably shouldn't cost $250 BILLION each year to process the forms, but still! They're cutting too deep! They need to leave a few brave souls behind to process the forms!"

What are you talking about? So we just shouldn’t have student loans anymore? The rich can get higher education, but anyone that can’t afford it is out of luck? Lovely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What about student loans? Should we forget about the FAFSA now? My sympathies to all impacted employees. This administration is sloppy, vindictive and destroying programs that Americans are using.

"The forms, the forms, who will process the forms?! Okay, I admit, it probably shouldn't cost $250 BILLION each year to process the forms, but still! They're cutting too deep! They need to leave a few brave souls behind to process the forms!"

What are you talking about? So we just shouldn’t have student loans anymore? The rich can get higher education, but anyone that can’t afford it is out of luck? Lovely.

Just ignore. This person has zero idea of the bad possible outcomes or has no need to care.

[Anonymous]

So cruel. You can downsize government and change priorities without wanting to inflict trauma on govt employees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So what isreplaces it? Vouchers for the poor masses to send their kids to the fundamentalist Christian school of their choice?

Lots of really uneducated kids being "homeschooled"

I was home schooled, because school was failing me. Went back and ended up graduating top ten.

I learned first-hand how inefficient school is. When I could get all the lessons done by the time the bus got to school.

That doesn’t make school inefficient. That means school is done at scale and your being homeschooled was done only for you.

People really need to understand efficiency better.

Not PP but Yes, educating humans at scale --especially K-8 --is dehumanizing and inefficient. It's done bc in our country education is inextricably linked with childcare. We do it like this bc we've created a society where both parents have to work. But it is hardly any kind of "gold standard" for educating children and it causes a lot of family conflict. Part of burning the Dept of Ed to the ground is a reflection of a larger zeitgeist back to hyperlocal governance. People hate having their families lives impacted by such massive systems of governance and this is partly a symbolic rejection of that

Sure, it works if one parent, most likely the mother, doesn’t work and devotes the next 18 years to teaching, sure. Or you’re so wealthy you can hiring a governess and a handful of teachers (with the appropriate degrees) to do your bidding.

American public school education is the most expensive in the world because of teachers unions, administrators, embezzlement, and federal meddling. Eliminate the whole thing and the average family could have $35,000 a year per child to spend on education.

teacher unions arent adding unnecessary cost of significance. Cite sources or go away.