Dept. of Education Staff Ordered to Leave Building by 6pm today

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Yes, these are complicated issues and AI is a large looming game changer.

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Anonymous wrote:This conversation has really gone off the deep end. Most of the comments are seeking to hold the Dept of Ed responsible for things managed at the state level, which includes the entirety of the k-12 curriculum. The dept of education mostly administers federal financial aid to college students and enforces the law so individual school districts don’t discriminate against children with special needs or other protected categories. That’s really the bulk of it. The Dept of Education policies that people may or may not like are typically presidential mandates like no child left behind.

So yeah, like there many poor kids that went and got degrees on federal aid but can't get a decent job. Most of the college education system is just an elitist social sorting system. Many of these fafsa kids need to go do something else. I mean I wish college was a good way for kids from modest backgrounds to get ahead, but it just isn't.

It worked for us
- immigrant

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Anonymous wrote:This conversation has really gone off the deep end. Most of the comments are seeking to hold the Dept of Ed responsible for things managed at the state level, which includes the entirety of the k-12 curriculum. The dept of education mostly administers federal financial aid to college students and enforces the law so individual school districts don’t discriminate against children with special needs or other protected categories. That’s really the bulk of it. The Dept of Education policies that people may or may not like are typically presidential mandates like no child left behind.

While I agree with much of what you said, No Child Left Behind was very far from a presidential mandate. Yes, it was signed into law by a president (Bush I), but only because it passed through Congress with tremendous bipartisan support in both the House and Senate. It was a reauthorization of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act that focused on standard-based education and accountability.

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Anonymous wrote:If you work for the Department of Education and are posting about how angry you are about losing your job, please realize only 27% of school-aged children between the 4th and 12th grade will be able to read it.

Pretty much those are kids with average IQs.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to keep your sanity.

We had a much better educated citizenry decades ago for K through 12.

Grade inflation has not helped. It's masking serious problems.

This is simply not true. See NAEP long-term trend data.

https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/ltt/?age=9

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This conversation has really gone off the deep end. Most of the comments are seeking to hold the Dept of Ed responsible for things managed at the state level, which includes the entirety of the k-12 curriculum. The dept of education mostly administers federal financial aid to college students and enforces the law so individual school districts don’t discriminate against children with special needs or other protected categories. That’s really the bulk of it. The Dept of Education policies that people may or may not like are typically presidential mandates like no child left behind.

So yeah, like there many poor kids that went and got degrees on federal aid but can't get a decent job. Most of the college education system is just an elitist social sorting system. Many of these fafsa kids need to go do something else. I mean I wish college was a good way for kids from modest backgrounds to get ahead, but it just isn't.

It worked for me and many of my friends. But we also didn’t do stupid things like tie down to bad partners, spend our entire college years blackout drunk, or rack up tens of thousands in credit card debt. Only well off kids get to enjoy the “typical college experience.” Everyone else needs to hustle if they’re going to crack in to places on merit or make connections with the rich kids and their parents. If you’re not prepared for that kind of work, find something else to do with your time.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you work for the Department of Education and are posting about how angry you are about losing your job, please realize only 27% of school-aged children between the 4th and 12th grade will be able to read it.

Pretty much those are kids with average IQs.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to keep your sanity.

We had a much better educated citizenry decades ago for K through 12.

Grade inflation has not helped. It's masking serious problems.

The older generations have their fair share of illiterate and uneducated who barely understand anything above a third grade level. In the old days, most kids with learning disabilities were shamed or shunted into alternative programs before being encouraged to drop out.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This conversation has really gone off the deep end. Most of the comments are seeking to hold the Dept of Ed responsible for things managed at the state level, which includes the entirety of the k-12 curriculum. The dept of education mostly administers federal financial aid to college students and enforces the law so individual school districts don’t discriminate against children with special needs or other protected categories. That’s really the bulk of it. The Dept of Education policies that people may or may not like are typically presidential mandates like no child left behind.

While I agree with much of what you said, No Child Left Behind was very far from a presidential mandate. Yes, it was signed into law by a president (Bush I), but only because it passed through Congress with tremendous bipartisan support in both the House and Senate. It was a reauthorization of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act that focused on standard-based education and accountability.

Thanks for the correction. I think the point still stands that people are blaming Dept of Education for policies like no child left behind when they should be blaming the president and Congress. If you don’t like a policy, vote those legislators out, but don’t scapegoat an entire agency. We could use the same logic to get rid of DOJ b/c it’s become corrupt under Trump, but really we should just get rid of Trump and the problem will fix itself.

[Anonymous]

The Department of Education makes a lot of grants to outside groups full of Democratic political activists. This is one reason the agency is being targeted. Loss of funding to those groups is bad news for the Democrats.

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Anonymous wrote:The Department of Education makes a lot of grants to outside groups full of Democratic political activists. This is one reason the agency is being targeted. Loss of funding to those groups is bad news for the Democrats.

Yeah... no

You should stop believing everything read from Musk

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Do you think those outside grant getting groups are filled with Republicans? Or do you think the Department of Education ISN’T doling out billions of dollars in grants?

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Anonymous wrote:Do you think those outside grant getting groups are filled with Republicans? Or do you think the Department of Education ISN’T doling out billions of dollars in grants?

Cite?

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Anonymous wrote:NEW: Dept of Education staff received a notice telling them to leave the building by 6pm today, and that all ED offices in DC as well as regional offices will be closed tomorrow, per an email obtained by @CBSNews. No reason was given for the closures.

The entire department is shut, and wow. Nothing bad is happening. No impact on life whatsoever

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Anonymous wrote:This is just rebranding the segregationist backlash to civil rights. Republicans want state and local schools to be permitted to discriminate against whomever they wish.

We HAVE to keep spending $250 billion a year on the Department of Education. They haven’t budged teat scores, but they might be able to fight racism in some way?

Reposting for the cheap seats in the back, dumb dumbs like you, and the truly in the dark so they don't fall for you crap:

Again, someone who completely misunderstands the Ed's mission. It is the SMALLEST cabinet dept because it has a few, discrete goals, and raising test scores is not one of them:

*Establishing policies on federal financial aid for education and distributing as well as monitoring those funds--hope no one you know filed FAFSA or needs free school lunch
*Collecting data on America's schools and disseminating research-this way we get to know LA and TX are at the bottom.
*Focusing national attention on key issues in education, and making recommendations for education reform--local school boards have the final say.
*Prohibiting discrimination and ensuring equal access to education--IEPs, IDEA, Title Nine.

So all this accomplishes is eliminating a tiny department that protects women, special education students, poor kids, and people trying to access higher ed.

Good work knowing nothing about anything

“Establishing policies….collecting data, focusing national attention”….all for zero improvement in educational outcomes? Yeah, the taxpayers would like their two trillion dollars back.

You aren’t getting anything back, you are just getting less services from the Fed Govt. Also expect your State and Local Govt. taxes to rise in order to pay for services formally paid for either Fed Tax dollars.

Oh and vouchers there won’t be any not for religious schools, or charter schools, get ready for one room school houses, slate tablets and slop out if a good bucket lunches, in red states.

You can’t get blood from a stone after all .

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Anonymous wrote:The Department of Education makes a lot of grants to outside groups full of Democratic political activists. This is one reason the agency is being targeted. Loss of funding to those groups is bad news for the Democrats.

I am sure we will all hear about them. I’ll look into it myself.

College prices seem out of whack.

Hope congress will fix that. But wait. Are they trying to make Congress obsolete now?!! I just don’t see their purpose anymore. Who will implement reform or new ideas? No one likes congress

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Didn’t congress have the least favorable public opinion rating? That body might be next. There are many wealthy people there but they all are paupers against the richest man in the world, (40 billion net worth).

I mean have the effectively been dismantled ? I personally don’t want to subsidize them anymore