Career ideas if low IQ but very hard working?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Armed forces
Emt paramedic firefighter
Plumber carpenter electrician
Nurse

You are so wrong. Nurses have to get through difficult coursework. They must be bright.

And, believe it or not, many of the trades do require intellect.

You are absolutely right. I’m pp and I’m sorry. I know people with low IQ in those jobs, but they are supported and surrounded by a loving community who values their role.
I stand by armed forces, though. It’s a good career with a duty of care. Factory work would be good, they make good money if there is a union. Animal caretakers, too, many are unionized.

I don't know where you are coming up with this stuff--the examples you are thinking of probably don't have truly low IQ. Sorry, but armed forces will not take someone with a low IQ. The current test being used for the military is called the ASVAB and there are minimums in order to enlist. There are also other standards. If you look at the current minimums and some studies, the minimums are roughly equivalent to somewhere in the 90s in terms of IQ (91-92 ish), which mean that the bottom third of the population in terms of IQ cannot enlist.

That is a real shame. Low IQ would make for good infantry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How low are you talking, OP? Like someone else said, there's a big difference between an IQ of 90 which is low-average and an IQ in the 60s or mid-70s.

I want to know this too.

IQ in the 60 to 70 range is considered intellectually disabled and the kind of "career" they could have is not going to pay 75k. In this range, it might be a stretch they even live independently. I have a family member around 65, they live at home and work stocking groceries at Trader Joe's. That was considered a pretty good outcome. 90 looks very different.

A steady job is actually a really good outcome for someone with an IQ of 65. I assume they have a lot of family support? I would also assume that unlike many people with an IQ of 65, they don't have major emotional or physical disabilities?

Lot's of family support and enough money to provide specialized schools/therapists, etc. And...its still kind of rough going at times. The job has been working out generally, but there have been incidences because they're very mouthy and uncensored. So, stocking shelves ok but they will never work the register. Likely was born with FAS (a lot unknown, foreign adoption) and who knows what else. Physical disabilities, nothing obvious but some emotional that I shudder to think how bad they could be without those supports.

Anyway, they're not making 75k or becoming a nurse or electrician anytime soon. I suspect OP is a DCUM 130 to 140+ IQ person or who is freaked their kid tested at 110.

I agree this is most likely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think OP is coming back to tell us what OP means, everyone.

Which means we've been trolled.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But you can get Cs and still get a job. It’s not like becoming a doctor where every grade matters.

Uhhhhh you know what they call the person with the lowest GPA at med school graduation, right?

Someone who won't match?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Armed forces
Emt paramedic firefighter
Plumber carpenter electrician
Nurse

You are so wrong. Nurses have to get through difficult coursework. They must be bright.

And, believe it or not, many of the trades do require intellect.

You are absolutely right. I’m pp and I’m sorry. I know people with low IQ in those jobs, but they are supported and surrounded by a loving community who values their role.
I stand by armed forces, though. It’s a good career with a duty of care. Factory work would be good, they make good money if there is a union. Animal caretakers, too, many are unionized.

I don't know where you are coming up with this stuff--the examples you are thinking of probably don't have truly low IQ. Sorry, but armed forces will not take someone with a low IQ. The current test being used for the military is called the ASVAB and there are minimums in order to enlist. There are also other standards. If you look at the current minimums and some studies, the minimums are roughly equivalent to somewhere in the 90s in terms of IQ (91-92 ish), which mean that the bottom third of the population in terms of IQ cannot enlist.

That is a real shame. Low IQ would make for good infantry.

Modern infantry actually has high ASVAB standards. They need to score at least in the 77th percentile on the ASVAB test (for comparison, a 77th percentile IQ is a little above 110). You also need to pass more exams during the 22 week training.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll get flamed for this, but the less intelligent people I know are or were in education. Teachers and principals.

Especially men. My FIL fits this description.

Yep. PP here, and 3/4 people, including the one who became a principal, are men.

+1, but to the general point.

Education is also a good industry if OP’s child is particularly emotionally high maintenance.

I’m trying to imagine a Physics, Trig, Government, or World Literature with a low IQ. I don’t see it.

It’s not just having content knowledge, it’s about knowing how to engage an unwilling audience and delivering it.

Same goes for a 1st grade or 3rd grade teacher. Sure, the concepts may not be particularly complex, but knowing how to deliver them? That’s ridiculously hard and takes skill: organization, communication, the ability to differentiate and immediately pivot without a plan, etc. Not to mention the understanding of theory and child psychology they need for the job.

I have nothing but respect for teachers. I know what they do is extremely demanding, including intellectually. But if people just think they “play with kids,” you wouldn’t think that.

Elementary ed, not hs physics. Plenty of relatively dumb people there, despite PC requiring everyone to go on publicly about "respect for teachers" and "what they do is extremely demanding."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Armed forces
Emt paramedic firefighter
Plumber carpenter electrician
Nurse

You are so wrong. Nurses have to get through difficult coursework. They must be bright.

And, believe it or not, many of the trades do require intellect.

You are absolutely right. I’m pp and I’m sorry. I know people with low IQ in those jobs, but they are supported and surrounded by a loving community who values their role.
I stand by armed forces, though. It’s a good career with a duty of care. Factory work would be good, they make good money if there is a union. Animal caretakers, too, many are unionized.

I don't know where you are coming up with this stuff--the examples you are thinking of probably don't have truly low IQ. Sorry, but armed forces will not take someone with a low IQ. The current test being used for the military is called the ASVAB and there are minimums in order to enlist. There are also other standards. If you look at the current minimums and some studies, the minimums are roughly equivalent to somewhere in the 90s in terms of IQ (91-92 ish), which mean that the bottom third of the population in terms of IQ cannot enlist.

That is a real shame. Low IQ would make for good infantry.

Modern infantry actually has high ASVAB standards. They need to score at least in the 77th percentile on the ASVAB test (for comparison, a 77th percentile IQ is a little above 110). You also need to pass more exams during the 22 week training.

The ASVAB for an infantryman includes word knowledge (WK) + paragraph comprehension (PC) + auto and shop information (AS) + mechanical comprehension (MC). You need what basically corresponds to an average of 77th percentile among all test takers for these sections. It would be very hard for someone who is low IQ.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ll get flamed for this, but the less intelligent people I know are or were in education. Teachers and principals.

Especially men. My FIL fits this description.

Yep. PP here, and 3/4 people, including the one who became a principal, are men.

+1, but to the general point.

Education is also a good industry if OP’s child is particularly emotionally high maintenance.

I’m trying to imagine a Physics, Trig, Government, or World Literature with a low IQ. I don’t see it.

It’s not just having content knowledge, it’s about knowing how to engage an unwilling audience and delivering it.

Same goes for a 1st grade or 3rd grade teacher. Sure, the concepts may not be particularly complex, but knowing how to deliver them? That’s ridiculously hard and takes skill: organization, communication, the ability to differentiate and immediately pivot without a plan, etc. Not to mention the understanding of theory and child psychology they need for the job.

I have nothing but respect for teachers. I know what they do is extremely demanding, including intellectually. But if people just think they “play with kids,” you wouldn’t think that.

Elementary ed, not hs physics. Plenty of relatively dumb people there, despite PC requiring everyone to go on publicly about "respect for teachers" and "what they do is extremely demanding."

Where’s my requirement that you respect teachers? This is DCUM. I’m fully aware most people here don’t respect them. (Most people here also have no clue what teachers do.)

I am a teacher (high school) and I know many elementary school teachers. So I’m coming from a place of understanding; I know the day-to-day requirements of the job and I’m fully aware of the skills and talents necessary to pull it off.

But most people on DCUM aren’t in my shoes, so I am not surprised when people go on and on about how teachers are “relatively dumb.” This is DCUM, where people anonymously put others down all the time. It’s what I expect. Hence, no… I don’t demand respect from you or anyone else here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But you can get Cs and still get a job. It’s not like becoming a doctor where every grade matters.

Uhhhhh you know what they call the person with the lowest GPA at med school graduation, right?

Someone who won't match?

And yet they’re still a doctor without GME.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Armed forces
Emt paramedic firefighter
Plumber carpenter electrician
Nurse

You are so wrong. Nurses have to get through difficult coursework. They must be bright.

And, believe it or not, many of the trades do require intellect.

You are absolutely right. I’m pp and I’m sorry. I know people with low IQ in those jobs, but they are supported and surrounded by a loving community who values their role.
I stand by armed forces, though. It’s a good career with a duty of care. Factory work would be good, they make good money if there is a union. Animal caretakers, too, many are unionized.

I don't know where you are coming up with this stuff--the examples you are thinking of probably don't have truly low IQ. Sorry, but armed forces will not take someone with a low IQ. The current test being used for the military is called the ASVAB and there are minimums in order to enlist. There are also other standards. If you look at the current minimums and some studies, the minimums are roughly equivalent to somewhere in the 90s in terms of IQ (91-92 ish), which mean that the bottom third of the population in terms of IQ cannot enlist.

That is a real shame. Low IQ would make for good infantry.

It's the opposite--infantry requires high IQ and test scores to join. Someone who can't perform mentally at a high level puts everyone at risk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ll get flamed for this, but the less intelligent people I know are or were in education. Teachers and principals.

Especially men. My FIL fits this description.

Yep. PP here, and 3/4 people, including the one who became a principal, are men.

+1, but to the general point.

Education is also a good industry if OP’s child is particularly emotionally high maintenance.

I’m trying to imagine a Physics, Trig, Government, or World Literature with a low IQ. I don’t see it.

It’s not just having content knowledge, it’s about knowing how to engage an unwilling audience and delivering it.

Same goes for a 1st grade or 3rd grade teacher. Sure, the concepts may not be particularly complex, but knowing how to deliver them? That’s ridiculously hard and takes skill: organization, communication, the ability to differentiate and immediately pivot without a plan, etc. Not to mention the understanding of theory and child psychology they need for the job.

I have nothing but respect for teachers. I know what they do is extremely demanding, including intellectually. But if people just think they “play with kids,” you wouldn’t think that.

Elementary ed, not hs physics. Plenty of relatively dumb people there, despite PC requiring everyone to go on publicly about "respect for teachers" and "what they do is extremely demanding."

This is the most insulting thing I’ve read on DCUM ever. And that’s saying a lot.

Elementary teachers have more emotional intelligence in their pinkies than you evidently have in your whole body, not to mention the actual ability to teach on top of the work and care that goes into the job.

If you hate teachers, just homeschool. No one will miss you or your kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What types of jobs can a low IQ person handle who is intellectually not real bright, but willing to put in 200% effort and works very well with people?

I would say Secretary of Defense but you also stipulated hard working.

She didn’t say anything about being a Nazi either

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ll get flamed for this, but the less intelligent people I know are or were in education. Teachers and principals.

You need at least a bachelor’s degree and in a few states, a master’s degree for these jobs plus licensing exams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But you can get Cs and still get a job. It’s not like becoming a doctor where every grade matters.

Uhhhhh you know what they call the person with the lowest GPA at med school graduation, right?

Someone who won't match?

The people who don't match are the ones who only pick specialties and locations with a scarce number of matches. If you want to be an orthopedic surgeon or dermatologist in CA or NY, yeah, you're going to have trouble matching. That's like saying you are only applying to Ivy League colleges.

But someone who graduates from an accredited US medical school should match if they are open to many locations, and if they consider specialties like primary care/family medicine where there are more spots.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ll get flamed for this, but the less intelligent people I know are or were in education. Teachers and principals.

Especially men. My FIL fits this description.

Yep. PP here, and 3/4 people, including the one who became a principal, are men.

+1, but to the general point.

Education is also a good industry if OP’s child is particularly emotionally high maintenance.

I’m trying to imagine a Physics, Trig, Government, or World Literature with a low IQ. I don’t see it.

It’s not just having content knowledge, it’s about knowing how to engage an unwilling audience and delivering it.

Same goes for a 1st grade or 3rd grade teacher. Sure, the concepts may not be particularly complex, but knowing how to deliver them? That’s ridiculously hard and takes skill: organization, communication, the ability to differentiate and immediately pivot without a plan, etc. Not to mention the understanding of theory and child psychology they need for the job.

I have nothing but respect for teachers. I know what they do is extremely demanding, including intellectually. But if people just think they “play with kids,” you wouldn’t think that.

Elementary ed, not hs physics. Plenty of relatively dumb people there, despite PC requiring everyone to go on publicly about "respect for teachers" and "what they do is extremely demanding."

This is the most insulting thing I’ve read on DCUM ever. And that’s saying a lot.

Elementary teachers have more emotional intelligence in their pinkies than you evidently have in your whole body, not to mention the actual ability to teach on top of the work and care that goes into the job.

If you hate teachers, just homeschool. No one will miss you or your kids.

You and I know this.

But the PP is absolutely clueless of what it takes to be an elementary education teacher.