What is Trump doing about the avian flu?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do they have to kill every bird in a 50 mile radius if one gets the flu? This isn't avian ebola or anything.

They test every bird in a 10 km radius. Not kill.
And yes, it’s highly pathogenic.

But its the flu, so why? 100+ million plus birds were culled because of it. Its the flu, can't they just call in sick for a week and then get back to egg laying?

Discourse in our country has reached such a low that I'm not sure whether you're being sarcastic or not.

I find the lack of curiosity by most people on this, and really everything, very perplexing.

Some simple questions that are hard to find answers for:
1. What is the mortality rate in wild vs farmed animals for the same species
2. What is the mortality rate for different species of avians
3. What is the mortality rate for different sub-species of avians
4. How does mortality rate vary within like birds when conditions vary

In essence, is bird flu a problem because we've bread chickens to be egg laying meat machines that live in cramped boxes on the edge of survival until they croak at a young age? If so, maybe the way we "solve" avian flu is just kicking the can down the road.

The Amish don’t need to worry about this.

The Amish are some of the worst when it comes to animal cruelty. Puppies get the factory chicken treatment, FFS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just deal with it, no one needs eggs

I refuse to buy eggs for $10 a dozen

Don’t need them

It not about the eggs you simple minded fool. It's food safety and response to emerging threats to public health.

I’ve also been skipping eggs at 10$ a dozen but you should be afraid that Trump’s fired/defunded a large swath of people related to public health issues in the name of “cost cutting.”

That you put the dollar sign after the number is a tell that you are not a native American, comrade.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will be done. Billionaires tend to get vaccines whether they publicly say they "believe" in them or not.

Omg, you will all get your precious vaccines, they are going to sell the grift to pharma as a big contract again, it’s coming. mRNA vax is going to be rolled out in no time. You just won’t be able to mandate it again like it was before or do stupid vaxxports, and good riddance to that.

Natural Selection is real.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do they have to kill every bird in a 50 mile radius if one gets the flu? This isn't avian ebola or anything.

They test every bird in a 10 km radius. Not kill.
And yes, it’s highly pathogenic.

But its the flu, so why? 100+ million plus birds were culled because of it. Its the flu, can't they just call in sick for a week and then get back to egg laying?

Discourse in our country has reached such a low that I'm not sure whether you're being sarcastic or not.

I find the lack of curiosity by most people on this, and really everything, very perplexing.

Some simple questions that are hard to find answers for:
1. What is the mortality rate in wild vs farmed animals for the same species
2. What is the mortality rate for different species of avians
3. What is the mortality rate for different sub-species of avians
4. How does mortality rate vary within like birds when conditions vary

In essence, is bird flu a problem because we've bread chickens to be egg laying meat machines that live in cramped boxes on the edge of survival until they croak at a young age? If so, maybe the way we "solve" avian flu is just kicking the can down the road.

The Amish don’t need to worry about this.

Do you understand how bird flu propagates? Of course they will need to worry about it. Both for their animals but also for themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do they have to kill every bird in a 50 mile radius if one gets the flu? This isn't avian ebola or anything.

They test every bird in a 10 km radius. Not kill.
And yes, it’s highly pathogenic.

But its the flu, so why? 100+ million plus birds were culled because of it. Its the flu, can't they just call in sick for a week and then get back to egg laying?

Discourse in our country has reached such a low that I'm not sure whether you're being sarcastic or not.

I find the lack of curiosity by most people on this, and really everything, very perplexing.

Some simple questions that are hard to find answers for:
1. What is the mortality rate in wild vs farmed animals for the same species
2. What is the mortality rate for different species of avians
3. What is the mortality rate for different sub-species of avians
4. How does mortality rate vary within like birds when conditions vary

In essence, is bird flu a problem because we've bread chickens to be egg laying meat machines that live in cramped boxes on the edge of survival until they croak at a young age? If so, maybe the way we "solve" avian flu is just kicking the can down the road.

The Amish don’t need to worry about this.

Do you understand how bird flu propagates? Of course they will need to worry about it. Both for their animals but also for themselves.

How do you think they avoided covid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do they have to kill every bird in a 50 mile radius if one gets the flu? This isn't avian ebola or anything.

They test every bird in a 10 km radius. Not kill.
And yes, it’s highly pathogenic.

But its the flu, so why? 100+ million plus birds were culled because of it. Its the flu, can't they just call in sick for a week and then get back to egg laying?

Discourse in our country has reached such a low that I'm not sure whether you're being sarcastic or not.

I find the lack of curiosity by most people on this, and really everything, very perplexing.

Some simple questions that are hard to find answers for:
1. What is the mortality rate in wild vs farmed animals for the same species
2. What is the mortality rate for different species of avians
3. What is the mortality rate for different sub-species of avians
4. How does mortality rate vary within like birds when conditions vary

In essence, is bird flu a problem because we've bread chickens to be egg laying meat machines that live in cramped boxes on the edge of survival until they croak at a young age? If so, maybe the way we "solve" avian flu is just kicking the can down the road.

Bred unless you are talking about a chicken cutlet, then bread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nothing will be done. Billionaires tend to get vaccines whether they publicly say they "believe" in them or not.

Omg, you will all get your precious vaccines, they are going to sell the grift to pharma as a big contract again, it’s coming. mRNA vax is going to be rolled out in no time. You just won’t be able to mandate it again like it was before or do stupid vaxxports, and good riddance to that.

Natural Selection is real.

Right? Or it’s a troll on midwinter break.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do they have to kill every bird in a 50 mile radius if one gets the flu? This isn't avian ebola or anything.

They test every bird in a 10 km radius. Not kill.
And yes, it’s highly pathogenic.

But its the flu, so why? 100+ million plus birds were culled because of it. Its the flu, can't they just call in sick for a week and then get back to egg laying?

Discourse in our country has reached such a low that I'm not sure whether you're being sarcastic or not.

I find the lack of curiosity by most people on this, and really everything, very perplexing.

Some simple questions that are hard to find answers for:
1. What is the mortality rate in wild vs farmed animals for the same species
2. What is the mortality rate for different species of avians
3. What is the mortality rate for different sub-species of avians
4. How does mortality rate vary within like birds when conditions vary

In essence, is bird flu a problem because we've bread chickens to be egg laying meat machines that live in cramped boxes on the edge of survival until they croak at a young age? If so, maybe the way we "solve" avian flu is just kicking the can down the road.

The Amish don’t need to worry about this.

Do you understand how bird flu propagates? Of course they will need to worry about it. Both for their animals but also for themselves.

How do you think they avoided covid?

Do the Amish not have chickens? Being an isolated community works when the transmission is human to human. How does bird flu work?

[Anonymous]

What is Trump doing about Avian Flu? Firing the USDA staff dealing with Avian flu.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/doge/usda-accidentally-fired-officials-bird-flu-rehire-rcna192716

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:First human case reported in Ohio. Buckle up.

It can’t be the first human case, as human cases have been happening for years.

Not in the US until recently. I think there was maybe one in 2022, then 2024. Looked it up on the CDC before inauguration. Cases were in mostly places like Vietnam, Cambodia, other Asian countries from what I recall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First human case reported in Ohio. Buckle up.

It can’t be the first human case, as human cases have been happening for years.

Not in the US until recently. I think there was maybe one in 2022, then 2024. Looked it up on the CDC before inauguration. Cases were in mostly places like Vietnam, Cambodia, other Asian countries from what I recall.

And this is why the US has health offices tied to the state Department in countries around the world. Sad that Trump cut the one in Wuhan in 2019 and sad that no one in the new administration will give this a second thought. But science works and leaders who believe in science are able to help quell outbreaks when they happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do they have to kill every bird in a 50 mile radius if one gets the flu? This isn't avian ebola or anything.

They test every bird in a 10 km radius. Not kill.
And yes, it’s highly pathogenic.

But its the flu, so why? 100+ million plus birds were culled because of it. Its the flu, can't they just call in sick for a week and then get back to egg laying?

Discourse in our country has reached such a low that I'm not sure whether you're being sarcastic or not.

I find the lack of curiosity by most people on this, and really everything, very perplexing.

Some simple questions that are hard to find answers for:
1. What is the mortality rate in wild vs farmed animals for the same species
2. What is the mortality rate for different species of avians
3. What is the mortality rate for different sub-species of avians
4. How does mortality rate vary within like birds when conditions vary

In essence, is bird flu a problem because we've bread chickens to be egg laying meat machines that live in cramped boxes on the edge of survival until they croak at a young age? If so, maybe the way we "solve" avian flu is just kicking the can down the road.

I'm not sure what the wild version of a chicken is.
Most birds carry avian flu from what I remember, it's usually an innocuous virus that doesn't do anything to the birds at all. But there are highly pathogenic strains, and there have been large die-offs of wild birds. Also sea mammals--18,000 dead baby elephant seals in one place in South America last year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First human case reported in Ohio. Buckle up.

It can’t be the first human case, as human cases have been happening for years.

Not in the US until recently. I think there was maybe one in 2022, then 2024. Looked it up on the CDC before inauguration. Cases were in mostly places like Vietnam, Cambodia, other Asian countries from what I recall.

And this is why the US has health offices tied to the state Department in countries around the world. Sad that Trump cut the one in Wuhan in 2019 and sad that no one in the new administration will give this a second thought. But science works and leaders who believe in science are able to help quell outbreaks when they happen.

Absolutely. I started watching the Hot Zone series on Amazon a few days ago, read the book years ago. The first Ebola outbreak was found by IDC doctors in Zaire, with the help of an NGO that was no doubt funded by USAID (Natl Geographic was involved in the production, and Dr. Jaax and her husband were definitely real people, even though there is some melodrama and Dr. Clark or whoever he is seems to have been based on an actual Dr. Peters). You have to have these people on the ground in places to be alert for these kinds of things.

[Anonymous]

Whoops, they “accidentally” fired the people working in bird flu

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/doge/usda-accidentally-fired-officials-bird-flu-rehire-rcna192716

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Whoops, they “accidentally” fired the people working in bird flu

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/doge/usda-accidentally-fired-officials-bird-flu-rehire-rcna192716

I honestly think the goal is to thin the herd. They have taken an axe to many health organizations, and won’t even allow information to be disseminated while we have various diseases floating around. The timing is very bad if the goal is to prevent illness and death.