What does I don't "really" drink mean (to you)?

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Anonymous wrote:That's something I would say if my 14 yo was with me too!

Really? Lying is more acceptable to you than responsibly and moderately imbibing?

There is no acceptable amount that is healthy. But if he said that then drinkers would get upset.

I don’t see where I said drinking was healthy. But responsible, moderate drinking can be part of a healthy life, just as eating a steak or a bowl of ice cream can be. You don’t need to be abstinent to be healthy. This black or white thinking is so off-putting and frankly childish. It’s how I thought when I was 8.

It isn't childish because it is correct. There is nothing good that you get from drinking alcohol. And I honestly,
What do you care what I think? If you read the latest studies alcohol is responsible for six different cancers. But. Go ahead and drink. I don't care if you rot your brain or liver. As long as you don't drink and drive it is your life.

No one knows what I think about alcohol but while I don't push you to stop alcoholics will push you to drink or call you names. Like you pp. Maybe you are the immature one. Eh?

DP

I don't drink much, i.e., 3 glasses a year and I totally disagree with the bolded. It is a social lubricant. People with healthy social lives live longer. This has been proven over and over and over. Alcohol is a part of the culture in MANY of the societieswith the longest life spans. As PP said, living in a black and white world is childish. Alcohol is very much grey world. Too much is bad, we know that. A little can be very healthy.

A social lubricant..now I have heard it all...lol You know it is possible to be social and not drink alcohol. Alcohol was just proven to cause six different cancers. If that is your idea of a good time enjoy your cancer. As far as the 'childish' comment goes it is the truth and you are like children who can't handle the knowledge that alcohol is killing you.

For your education: https://www.who.int/europe/news/item/04-01-2023-no-level-of-alcohol-consumption-is-safe-for-our-health I forgot to post this for all you drinkers out there.

This is a bullshit study for many reasons, including:

“The risk of developing cancer increases substantially the more alcohol is consumed. However, latest available data indicate that half of all alcohol-attributable cancers in the WHO European Region are caused by “light” and “moderate” alcohol consumption – less than 1.5 litres of wine or less than 3.5 litres of beer or less than 450 millilitres of spirits per week.”


Drinking 60% of a bottle of whiskey a week or 2 bottles of wine a week is *not* light drinking. It’s at the high end of moderate drinking.

There are other significant fallacies presented in their write up, too. But the idea that anything above 0 raises your chance of cancer in a statistically significant way is just plain stupid.

i have never met a doctor who didn't drink in moderation or who counseled cutting out alcohol altogether.
If you actually look at cancer stats, divide it into specifically the cancers that have drinking as an attributable cause, find the % that are attributed to drinking, and consider moderate drinking then you're solving for something that is one very small part of a much more complex problem.
We need this information for the same reason we need all information eg that any preserved food, sugar, pollution, radon, CT scans, pesticides, chemicals in some clothing and cosmetic and toiletry products, processed foods, plastics (I could go on and on) are carcinogens. But they're not saying all these things WILL give you cancer, they are saying that minimizing your exposure overall is a good mental note. The most important things are to be overall as healthy as you can be. Not to live some kind of terrible spartan lifestyle where you ingest nothing but home grown carrots and wear a hemp sack.

I personally know a few alcoholic MDs.

+100

They're known addicts/alcoholics, as a group.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:That's something I would say if my 14 yo was with me too!

Really? Lying is more acceptable to you than responsibly and moderately imbibing?

Familiarize yourself with the concept of little white lies and report back.

Please and thank you.

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I don't really eat chicken salad but when I do, I get the sandwich at 7-11.

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Anonymous wrote:That's something I would say if my 14 yo was with me too!

Really? Lying is more acceptable to you than responsibly and moderately imbibing?

Familiarize yourself with the concept of little white lies and report back.

Please and thank you.

Call it what you want, when your child sees you drinking they’ll know you’re a liar and a hypocrite. You’re welcome.

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Anonymous wrote:That's something I would say if my 14 yo was with me too!

Really? Lying is more acceptable to you than responsibly and moderately imbibing?

There is no acceptable amount that is healthy. But if he said that then drinkers would get upset.

I don’t see where I said drinking was healthy. But responsible, moderate drinking can be part of a healthy life, just as eating a steak or a bowl of ice cream can be. You don’t need to be abstinent to be healthy. This black or white thinking is so off-putting and frankly childish. It’s how I thought when I was 8.

These things are not the same. Steak has protein, ice cream has calcium, alcohol has poison. There isn't a nutritional value in alcohol, especially the way some of y'all drink it.

You'll try some "red wine has..." and so does a tomato, without the carcinogens.

So yeah, those of us who don't drink (at all) will often hedge it a bit ("I don't really drink") because y'all tend to freak out when we say it's not for us at all.

No. It’s because you come off as smug, judgmental prats, just like vegans. Everyone hates you. But you wouldn’t know that, because you’re sitting at home at night, watching The Gilded Age, instead of out being sociable. Stay home with your bustles and muffs, Carrie Nation.

You've pickled your brain, dear.

Agreed. What a crazy, psycho response. You know this person drinks waaaay too much when they get this upset about people who aren't addicted like they are. PP you know you have a substance abuse problem and we see it. Your neighbors see it too.

My neighbors are at my party, having fun with me. But I don't live in DC, where fun goes to die.

Sober people are not a glum lot, and our parties are memorable. Your neighbors "like" you because you're all drunks, and parties at your house = drinking for free. This is "fun"?

No. It's addict behavior. Addiction is where fun goes to die.

Have fun with your neighbors sober. Then we'll be impressed.

Oh right. You can’t drink without being drunk. This shows how little you know. Go glug some Yoo-Hoo, Suzy Q.

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I say this. For me, it means I will have a drink on a special occasion but I do not drink on a regular basis. DH enjoys a beer on Friday evening or during a sporting event. My family has drinks when they gather. I don’t drink on these occasions. However, if I went to a wedding or bar mitzvah I might. I might drink on 1-2 occasions most years and some years not at all.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's something I would say if my 14 yo was with me too!

Really? Lying is more acceptable to you than responsibly and moderately imbibing?

Familiarize yourself with the concept of little white lies and report back.

Please and thank you.

Drinker. DRINKER.

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I think there is a lot of cross purposes squabbling here.
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I don't really drink. As in I don't drink often, drink a lot, only drink infrequently etc.

I really don't drink. As in never, no way, nada.

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i say i don't really drink much.

it means i will have a margarita if it is from the place i like. i will have a cocktail or two at HH sometimes. but i don't have a drink whenever there is the opportunity, even if everyone else is drinking.

mostly i get water or tea.

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I've had alcohol in my body but it's not something I drink to celebrate something.

So I'm not judging/caring what others drink but it's not my bag. I can't say "I don't drink" because I probably have a drink every couple years or something and it's not a life rule- just not something I'm into.

[Anonymous]

I don’t really drink like I don’t really ski. I’ve gone skiing and I likely will again but is not something I’m planning for or something I’m that into.

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Anonymous wrote:I would say the same thing, OP.

To my ears, it means: "I can't handle alcohol but don't want to say that out loud in a nation of drinkers and in a culture where drinking makes the man".

I lack much of the enzyme necessary to metabolize alcohol, so I can sip a half-glass of wine and that's my limit, otherwise I get sleepy and don't feel well. My teens are the same. They have tasted alcohol at home, just to recognize the taste in case they are ever in a situation where they are given some without their knowledge.

So this seems like a perfectly normal thing to say, and nothing nefarious. Proximity to his teen while saying it is unimportant. His teen knows better than you what his alcohol tolerance is.

Can’t handle? How about doesn’t enjoy, finds no real pleasure in drinking, cost exceeds the reward, not my timing? Not being able to handle has nothing to do for me.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's something I would say if my 14 yo was with me too!

Really? Lying is more acceptable to you than responsibly and moderately imbibing?

There is no acceptable amount that is healthy. But if he said that then drinkers would get upset.

I don’t see where I said drinking was healthy. But responsible, moderate drinking can be part of a healthy life, just as eating a steak or a bowl of ice cream can be. You don’t need to be abstinent to be healthy. This black or white thinking is so off-putting and frankly childish. It’s how I thought when I was 8.

It isn't childish because it is correct. There is nothing good that you get from drinking alcohol. And I honestly,
What do you care what I think? If you read the latest studies alcohol is responsible for six different cancers. But. Go ahead and drink. I don't care if you rot your brain or liver. As long as you don't drink and drive it is your life.

No one knows what I think about alcohol but while I don't push you to stop alcoholics will push you to drink or call you names. Like you pp. Maybe you are the immature one. Eh?

DP

I don't drink much, i.e., 3 glasses a year and I totally disagree with the bolded. It is a social lubricant. People with healthy social lives live longer. This has been proven over and over and over. Alcohol is a part of the culture in MANY of the societieswith the longest life spans. As PP said, living in a black and white world is childish. Alcohol is very much grey world. Too much is bad, we know that. A little can be very healthy.

A social lubricant..now I have heard it all...lol You know it is possible to be social and not drink alcohol. Alcohol was just proven to cause six different cancers. If that is your idea of a good time enjoy your cancer. As far as the 'childish' comment goes it is the truth and you are like children who can't handle the knowledge that alcohol is killing you.

Found the person who could use a little social lubricant

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That's something I would say if my 14 yo was with me too!

Really? Lying is more acceptable to you than responsibly and moderately imbibing?

There is no acceptable amount that is healthy. But if he said that then drinkers would get upset.

I don’t see where I said drinking was healthy. But responsible, moderate drinking can be part of a healthy life, just as eating a steak or a bowl of ice cream can be. You don’t need to be abstinent to be healthy. This black or white thinking is so off-putting and frankly childish. It’s how I thought when I was 8.

It isn't childish because it is correct. There is nothing good that you get from drinking alcohol. And I honestly,
What do you care what I think? If you read the latest studies alcohol is responsible for six different cancers. But. Go ahead and drink. I don't care if you rot your brain or liver. As long as you don't drink and drive it is your life.

No one knows what I think about alcohol but while I don't push you to stop alcoholics will push you to drink or call you names. Like you pp. Maybe you are the immature one. Eh?

DP

I don't drink much, i.e., 3 glasses a year and I totally disagree with the bolded. It is a social lubricant. People with healthy social lives live longer. This has been proven over and over and over. Alcohol is a part of the culture in MANY of the societieswith the longest life spans. As PP said, living in a black and white world is childish. Alcohol is very much grey world. Too much is bad, we know that. A little can be very healthy.

A social lubricant..now I have heard it all...lol You know it is possible to be social and not drink alcohol. Alcohol was just proven to cause six different cancers. If that is your idea of a good time enjoy your cancer. As far as the 'childish' comment goes it is the truth and you are like children who can't handle the knowledge that alcohol is killing you.

Found the person who could use a little social lubricant

I've never really understood the concept of alcohol (or other drugs) as "social lubricant". It doesn't encourage me to be myself in a social setting. It makes me a different person entirely, and how is that 'social'? Once I'm sober, I'm going to go back to my regular self. Anyone who likes me drunk will be sorely disappointed by sober me, who is much more quiet, introspective, gentle.

Drunkenness isn't pro-social behavior.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would say the same thing, OP.

To my ears, it means: "I can't handle alcohol but don't want to say that out loud in a nation of drinkers and in a culture where drinking makes the man".

I lack much of the enzyme necessary to metabolize alcohol, so I can sip a half-glass of wine and that's my limit, otherwise I get sleepy and don't feel well. My teens are the same. They have tasted alcohol at home, just to recognize the taste in case they are ever in a situation where they are given some without their knowledge.

So this seems like a perfectly normal thing to say, and nothing nefarious. Proximity to his teen while saying it is unimportant. His teen knows better than you what his alcohol tolerance is.

Can’t handle? How about doesn’t enjoy, finds no real pleasure in drinking, cost exceeds the reward, not my timing? Not being able to handle has nothing to do for me.

Exactly. I'm fine with the fact that I "can't handle my liquor". Some of y'all can't handle your lives without it.

When I was drinking, I was often the last man standing. I could drink pretty much anyone under the table. I was expert at handling alcohol and total shit at handling life. I'll take sobriety.