Notre Dame is 3.59% black. Shameful |
Funny, when I was a high school student in the 90s, these rankings did matter. Kids choosing between Cornell and Johns Hopkins, Middlebury and Haverford, would often base their final decision on the most recent ranking. That sounds crazy today.
These rankings may highlight a few newcomers (e.g U Florida, UC Davis), but aside from that I can’t imagine these rankings influencing anyone today. |
More diversity. |
A Catholic school in Indiana isn’t a huge draw for POC? Shocking!! |
+100 I am pretty sure if a smart, Catholic black kid is interested in Notre Dame they would have the same chance of admissions as a white kid. The appeal is just not there if you aren’t Catholic. |
No counselor has ever said that because the schools are so different. The student applying to a large predominantly tech school is not the sane student who want an intellectual slac |
Top 40 National Private Universities by USN&WR
1 Princeton 2 MIT 3 Havard 4 Standford 5 Yale 6 Caltech, Duke, JHU, Northwestern 10 Upenn 11 Cornell, Uchicago 13 Brown, Columbia, 15 Dartmouth 16 Rice, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt 19 CMU, WashU 21 Emory, Georgetown 23 USC 24 NYU 25 Boston College, Tufts 27 Boston University 28 Univ Rochester 29 Lehigh, Wake Forest 31 Case Western 32 Northeastern 33 Villanova 34 Brandeis, GWU, Santa Clara, Tulane, U Miami 39 RPI 40 Syracuse |
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what's shameful about it?? |
OMG, maybe not having to spend the four most formative years of one’s life in godawful Indiana? |
Don't you understand admissions today is all about marketing? The job of an admissions officer is solely to get your kid to apply (to drive up no. of applications) in order to reject them, thereby making the school appear more selective than it is. They will say anything to secure an application. Any college admissions counselor will tell you that. You're hopelessly naive if you actually believe what Admissions says. |
I'm happy to see Cornell get a little more respect. But Duke and Northwestern at 6 is an abomination.
Also, what is with the the fixation on the UCs? Berkeley and UCLA do not belong in the top 20 for undergrad. There are five UCs in the top 40 alone. And UC Merced at 58 is ridiculous. |
And UVA is ranked #4 overall public. |
The rankings originally were merit based. That changed over the past 30 years where even class size, undergrad teaching focus (prof teaching courses vs TAs,etc), test scores, selectivity, etc and it changed to first gen stuff and student body composition, etc. |
I know you are talking about ND, but Indiana-Bloomington is often highlighted here as being a great place to go to college. Is it just a nicer place? |