| This is my post. My point is that if you don’t get an offer on your visit you are going to be part of the musical chairs dynamic. You are obviously not the top choice for the school and they want you to hang around if other players commit elsewhere. I had an approach where I let my kids take the lead on the visits but at the end of the visit while in the coaches office I would step in if an offer had not been made and say a few things like “this is a family matter and we as a family need to know where my kid stands. Are you ready to make on offer or should we consider one of the other offers that have been made?” That brings it to a head. |
If they weren't going to make you an offer before, does saying this change anything? |
So what were the results? How many times did you do this, what happened, where did your DD commit - to one of those schools or one where an offer was made pre- or on-visit? |
| Honestly I never left without an offer but several of my kids were pre Sept 1 so it was wild wild west |
| So at that time as a freshman or sophomore the schools did not have the urgency to make an offer so this approach forced their hand. But I do think post Sept 1 it still can be effective but the reality is that if you have to ask now it probably is not coming in the moment and your child is probably a 2nd or 3rd option for that school. |
| When did the Sept 1st rule take into effect? |
| Around 2019 or 2020. |
| For the typical high D1 commit, is it usually pretty clear at a relatively young age - say middle school - that a player is destined for that? I’m the parent of a younger player and trying to understand more about the process. |
It was enacted in early 2017, and affected classes from 2019 (just ~ 6 months) and thereafter. Many 2019's and 2020's even had been recruited by then, but neither were full across the board. |
No. If you're considering high D1 just say 25 schools or so, that's 250 recruits per year. Or 100 for the top 10. Certainly a good number of those will be some of the best in middle school. Not sure anyone could put a number on it. But there will be plenty that surpass better, earlier players. Some that are just picking it up or haven't even started. Then there's top players that go elsewhere and become better players than the half that sit the bench at "top D1". |
To clarify - your kids were going through recruiting prior to the Sept 1 rule or this is more recent and they were given secret offers before Sept 1? |
If your daughter is a top D1 schools second or third choice does that mean they likely will never play? |
Of course not. They're evaluating sophomores in high school. It doesn't matter what level school, she'll have myriad opportunities to improve away from a college coach's watch in the next 2 years, and then untold amount of opportunities to get better (as anyone will need to) over their college career. Firstly, coaches will play the players they think will help them win, not the ones they liked better in 10th/11th grade. The mantra is you have to force the coach to have to play you. Not everyone will have what it takes to do that, but it's not set in stone in the middle of high school. |
| Yes, I had 3 kids go through the process pre Sept 1 and it was really nuts. Can you imagine sitting in a coach’s office and listening to your 14 year old being asked about what their major might be or in the extreme, whether they would like to commit to an academy which means they are deciding what they will do from 18 to 27 as a 14 year old? Much better with the new rules. |
| And the last one went through with the new rules but during Covid so there were no campus visits but I felt like schools were really ready to wheel and deal quickly after Sept 1. |