BCC student with weapon today

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Anonymous wrote:My BCC student had an AP test in the morning then classes in the afternoon. He didn’t know anything about the incident.

Why would you expect him to notice when the school didn't go into a lockdown or a shelter in place?

Kids talk. Duh!

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Anonymous wrote:People, get your kids out of mcps. Why do you all still have kids in public school?

Sweet! You’re gonna pay for my kids private HS? Such a generous offer. We need more people like you!

Yep, will take that poster's offer too. No to religious schools!!!

I’ll take religious schools over your train wreck and many others are too.
We all know you would too.

Why again are you on the "train wreck" forum? Go deal with your abuse cases at your private school.

Keep trying in your desperation. I have a say for public as I pay and live in mont county. You can suck it.

Of course can't believe they pay property taxes and also pay for private school. And wait until their private school kid is roommates with a *gasp* public school kid at the same college.

Because we can pay for private school and choose to. You’re jealous about that.
Colleges are for *gasp* all individuals who completed high school.
You simply don’t care enough about your child to send them in their formative years to a good learning environment.

dp.. if all private school parents are like you I'm glad we decided to keep our DC in public.

Yeah, we alllll believe that. If that’s true, you are irresponsible to keep your child in unsafe schools bc you don’t like parents from private. Okay, you, sure.

I don't like private school parents who are smug aholes, that's true. I don't want my kids exposed to private school kids with ahole parents; rubs off on their kids. My kids would have to be around that all day, 5 days, per week for like 9 months.

Yeah, because lockdowns and guns are a better option for students. This just reinforces how irresponsible of a parent you are.

right, so then colleges should take this into account and give a boost for all public school students, and expect much higher achievement from private school students because they have such a better learning environment. Then, we'll see how smug you are.

Private school parents can choose to send their children to private school for their formative years regardless of college placement. You seemingly are bent out of shape about that people having that choice when their children are still in their care and not yet adults.
You have yet to come to understand what parenting is and that there are private schools for multiple reasons. Safer environment for their children as one reason. Hence the topic for this forum or you believe the principal made it up.

This is an mcps forum.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My BCC student had an AP test in the morning then classes in the afternoon. He didn’t know anything about the incident.

Why would you expect him to notice when the school didn't go into a lockdown or a shelter in place?

I was taking about the increased police presence.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My BCC student had an AP test in the morning then classes in the afternoon. He didn’t know anything about the incident.

Why would you expect him to notice when the school didn't go into a lockdown or a shelter in place?

I was taking about the increased police presence.

Ah. Well....then maybe MCPS was exaggerating when Mooney said, "For the remainder of the school day, the school had an increased security presence 'out of an abundance of caution.'"

Notice MCPD declined to comment on the article to MoCo 360....

[Anonymous]

MCPD was present when I went to pick up my child after their AP exam. It was shortly after the incident and it was being handled by police. There was no need to go into a locdown or shelter since the child with the weapon had already left. Police remained onsite for the remainder of day

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MCPD was present when I went to pick up my child after their AP exam. It was shortly after the incident and it was being handled by police. There was no need to go into a locdown or shelter since the child with the weapon had already left. Police remained onsite for the remainder of day

If the child fled the school WITH the weapon still in his possession then there absolutely is reason to be concerned. You have a known adolescent with a gun running around somewhere in the community.

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Principals make alot of things up but usually it's to cover up their own inability to support a teacher not to frame kids.

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Anonymous wrote:LA used wanding not walk thru devices such as are used in public buildings. The latter is less influenced by operator error. LA switched to pushing students to snitch more, it was a student report at BCC. That piece is working at BCC, or, at least it worked yesterday.

How do you systemically and consistently scale “snitching,” as you call it, as a response to the volume of concerning safety incidents we’re seeing in schools?

NP but student reports are probably the most important piece of this. Students have to feel lke this impact their community and that they have a safe/confidential way to report. The SROs used to be part of this system—that was the goal at least, to have familiar friendly faces that a kid could go to confidentially, and their identify can be protected under usual police procedures.

The metal detectors are very resource intensive, with maintenance, training of operators, etc., and they still don’t catch all the weapons. If we can’t afford cheapo security guards to stand outside the bathrooms, I can’t see this being a viable option for all high schools.

I appreciate what you're saying, but you didn't answer my question: How do you systemically and consistently scale “snitching,” as you call it, as a response to the volume of concerning safety incidents we’re seeing in schools?

As I noted, I wasn't the person you were responding to, and certainly never used the term "snitching" (nor would I). The way to scale that up is to convince kids that it's not "snitching" but rather acting thoughtfully to protect each other. I think that message would be best received coming from other students -- e.g., student survivors of gun violence making PSA videos that can be broadcast to students, SGA members speaking out about this. And also making sure students are aware that they can make confidential reports to any trusted adult, and that their name will be kept in confidence. The same way that companies are now trying to promote a culture of accountability by having whistleblower policies, harassment reporting mechanisms, training, etc. It's probably just one part of the solution, but I think it's probably one of the most important parts. It is possible to create culture change among teens -- just think of what MADD was able to do in the 80's/90's--but it takes some effort. I do think the majority of teens are not happy with the very few that are disrupting their schools this way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MCPD was present when I went to pick up my child after their AP exam. It was shortly after the incident and it was being handled by police. There was no need to go into a locdown or shelter since the child with the weapon had already left. Police remained onsite for the remainder of day

I agree that there probably was no need, but that's different from what they did at RM earlier this year (or was it last year). They had a youth with a gun on campus, and the security or CEO saw the kid run off into the surrounding neighborhood, but they put the whole school on lockdown/shelter in place for the rest of the day. Given that kids were taking APs, I'm glad they didn't make a big announcement and freak the kids out when it was clear that the kid had left campus.

[Anonymous]

A different BCC student was found with a knife on him yesterday, same day as the gun incident.
Some kids tried to jump him and he pulled it out for protection only. No one got stabbed.
Dunno what’s going on at these “ good schools”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:LA used wanding not walk thru devices such as are used in public buildings. The latter is less influenced by operator error. LA switched to pushing students to snitch more, it was a student report at BCC. That piece is working at BCC, or, at least it worked yesterday.

How do you systemically and consistently scale “snitching,” as you call it, as a response to the volume of concerning safety incidents we’re seeing in schools?

NP but student reports are probably the most important piece of this. Students have to feel lke this impact their community and that they have a safe/confidential way to report. The SROs used to be part of this system—that was the goal at least, to have familiar friendly faces that a kid could go to confidentially, and their identify can be protected under usual police procedures.

The metal detectors are very resource intensive, with maintenance, training of operators, etc., and they still don’t catch all the weapons. If we can’t afford cheapo security guards to stand outside the bathrooms, I can’t see this being a viable option for all high schools.

I appreciate what you're saying, but you didn't answer my question: How do you systemically and consistently scale “snitching,” as you call it, as a response to the volume of concerning safety incidents we’re seeing in schools?

As I noted, I wasn't the person you were responding to, and certainly never used the term "snitching" (nor would I). The way to scale that up is to convince kids that it's not "snitching" but rather acting thoughtfully to protect each other. I think that message would be best received coming from other students -- e.g., student survivors of gun violence making PSA videos that can be broadcast to students, SGA members speaking out about this. And also making sure students are aware that they can make confidential reports to any trusted adult, and that their name will be kept in confidence. The same way that companies are now trying to promote a culture of accountability by having whistleblower policies, harassment reporting mechanisms, training, etc. It's probably just one part of the solution, but I think it's probably one of the most important parts. It is possible to create culture change among teens -- just think of what MADD was able to do in the 80's/90's--but it takes some effort. I do think the majority of teens are not happy with the very few that are disrupting their schools this way.

So basically the standard thing that gets trotted out for every concerning student behavior and topic.

I don't know if quantitative data exists on the efficacy of the student PSA contest, but given that vaping, chronic absenteeism, and underage drinking are all still prevalent behaviors that haven't gone away despite the student PSA contests and SGA speaking out, I'm thinking that's not really accomplishing the scale and consistency point I was making.

It's important to note that the kinds of kids most likely to listen to a message from a SGA leader aren't the kind of kids' whose behavior we need to change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A different BCC student was found with a knife on him yesterday, same day as the gun incident.
Some kids tried to jump him and he pulled it out for protection only. No one got stabbed.
Dunno what’s going on at these “ good schools”

Why didn't Dr. Mooney put out a community letter about that incident?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A different BCC student was found with a knife on him yesterday, same day as the gun incident.
Some kids tried to jump him and he pulled it out for protection only. No one got stabbed.
Dunno what’s going on at these “ good schools”

Why didn't Dr. Mooney put out a community letter about that incident?

Because they still
Want the general public to think these are the better schools. They keep a lot of the violent incidents hush hush

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A different BCC student was found with a knife on him yesterday, same day as the gun incident.
Some kids tried to jump him and he pulled it out for protection only. No one got stabbed.
Dunno what’s going on at these “ good schools”

Why didn't Dr. Mooney put out a community letter about that incident?

Because they still
Want the general public to think these are the better schools. They keep a lot of the violent incidents hush hush

Gotta protect the MCPS brand!!!!

[Anonymous]

^ it was said at a meeting, forgot which one, that not all incidents will result in a "community letter." Perhaps that is where parents need to advocate for more consistent messaging and communication when ANY incident occurs?