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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:TJ outreach people that came to our school told us nothing about needing to take Math beyond algebra. Now we are hearing calculus is required at TJ. Not sure why they didnt mention this requirment?

You were not aware TJ is a STEM-focused high school ?

It’s probably not for your child.

They were not aware TJ is, apparently, a STEM-focused school

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian

DD knows a kid with a 4.0 and taking pre-calc and did not get in. She said everyone is shocked.

Did they practice the portrait of a graduate and the problem solving essay at you-know-where?

From what people said here, getting the right answer in PS or not doesn't matter. And, there is no reasonable way to expect that many top performers to do worse in essays than those who just barely meet the minimum.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian

DD knows a kid with a 4.0 and taking pre-calc and did not get in. She said everyone is shocked.

Did they practice the portrait of a graduate and the problem solving essay at you-know-where?

From what people said here, getting the right answer in PS or not doesn't matter. And, there is no reasonable way to expect that many top performers to do worse in essays than those who just barely meet the minimum.

From what people said here (which should be taken with a grain of salt), writing a good explanation of reasoning in PS is very important. And, at least at the school's my DCs has been in, this skill has been taught for years, to varying effect. No prep class needed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Results were a little better this year at out school. They accepted two of the top math students, but the top few students were waitlisted. Last year the top students were all waitlisted or rejected.

For both admitted and non-admitted students, the new admissions regime shows them that hard work and good performance will not be rewarded and unfairness/discrimination in the system cannot be challenged. Families can create a similar or better learning environment for their children than TJ. It's harder to gain back their trust in the education system as a whole. Or maybe, they shouldn't.

So much angst! Hard work and good performance are always rewarded. All systems are unfair somehow, the admissions process is not discriminatory.

Under the old admissions process and the new one, there are more exceptional, excellent, and well qualified candidates than spots. So some will not be admitted. It is what it is. Should your trust be broken? Or should you be realistic and accepting?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Results were a little better this year at out school. They accepted two of the top math students, but the top few students were waitlisted. Last year the top students were all waitlisted or rejected.

For both admitted and non-admitted students, the new admissions regime shows them that hard work and good performance will not be rewarded and unfairness/discrimination in the system cannot be challenged. Families can create a similar or better learning environment for their children than TJ. It's harder to gain back their trust in the education system as a whole. Or maybe, they shouldn't.

So much angst! Hard work and good performance are always rewarded. All systems are unfair somehow, the admissions process is not discriminatory.

Under the old admissions process and the new one, there are more exceptional, excellent, and well qualified candidates than spots. So some will not be admitted. It is what it is. Should your trust be broken? Or should you be realistic and accepting?

Is that why the freshmen attrition rate has increased 10 folds in the new system? Is that why TJ now has to run Algebra review sessions? There are plenty other ways to do charities than this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Results were a little better this year at out school. They accepted two of the top math students, but the top few students were waitlisted. Last year the top students were all waitlisted or rejected.

For both admitted and non-admitted students, the new admissions regime shows them that hard work and good performance will not be rewarded and unfairness/discrimination in the system cannot be challenged. Families can create a similar or better learning environment for their children than TJ. It's harder to gain back their trust in the education system as a whole. Or maybe, they shouldn't.

So much angst! Hard work and good performance are always rewarded. All systems are unfair somehow, the admissions process is not discriminatory.

Under the old admissions process and the new one, there are more exceptional, excellent, and well qualified candidates than spots. So some will not be admitted. It is what it is. Should your trust be broken? Or should you be realistic and accepting?

Is that why the freshmen attrition rate has increased 10 folds in the new system? Is that why TJ now has to run Algebra review sessions? There are plenty other ways to do charities than this.

Freshman attrition has not increased 10 fold. The numbers that have been dropped on this site indicate that the attrition rate has stayed the same.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DD says last year Math was easier than this year’s question.

Wording on this year’s made it lil more confusing than last year’s question. According to her - once you get thru that then it is a straightforward answer.

DD messed her essays. Waitlisted

Asian, 4.00 GPA, pre-calculus

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian

Pre-calculus? What do kids do at TJ if they've already gone this far in math?

DC currently at TJ completed pre-calc in middle school, outside FCPS. past precalc, TJ has four levels: Calc AB, Calc BC, Multi/linear, elementary diff & applied math techniques

Anonymous wrote:DC waitlisted. 4.0. AP Pre-Calculus. Won gold, silver, bronze in different competitions. Volunteered a lot with the community (because DC wanted to do so, not bc of TJ. DC will continue doing so no matter what).

DC’s friends, DC, us and everyone knew DC were shocked with the result.

DC is resilient though. DC started discussing a new plan at base HS with us.

When did they complete alg 1/geo/alg 2?

DC completed Alg 1 in 6th grade, took a test and allowed to skip geo, alg 2 in 7th grade. In 8th grade, math teacher recommended DC to take AP Pre-Calculus rather than Pre-Calculus. DC is doing very well in the course.

AP Pre-Calculus? No such course at FCPS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DD says last year Math was easier than this year’s question.

Wording on this year’s made it lil more confusing than last year’s question. According to her - once you get thru that then it is a straightforward answer.

DD messed her essays. Waitlisted

Asian, 4.00 GPA, pre-calculus

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian

Pre-calculus? What do kids do at TJ if they've already gone this far in math?

DC currently at TJ completed pre-calc in middle school, outside FCPS. past precalc, TJ has four levels: Calc AB, Calc BC, Multi/linear, elementary diff & applied math techniques

Anonymous wrote:DC waitlisted. 4.0. AP Pre-Calculus. Won gold, silver, bronze in different competitions. Volunteered a lot with the community (because DC wanted to do so, not bc of TJ. DC will continue doing so no matter what).

DC’s friends, DC, us and everyone knew DC were shocked with the result.

DC is resilient though. DC started discussing a new plan at base HS with us.

When did they complete alg 1/geo/alg 2?

DC completed Alg 1 in 6th grade, took a test and allowed to skip geo, alg 2 in 7th grade. In 8th grade, math teacher recommended DC to take AP Pre-Calculus rather than Pre-Calculus. DC is doing very well in the course.

AP Pre-Calculus? No such course at FCPS.

Yeah, it's a new course that College Board just came up with. It's pretty a dumb idea - but it would be worse if FCPS didn't offer it than if they do.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Results were a little better this year at out school. They accepted two of the top math students, but the top few students were waitlisted. Last year the top students were all waitlisted or rejected.

For both admitted and non-admitted students, the new admissions regime shows them that hard work and good performance will not be rewarded and unfairness/discrimination in the system cannot be challenged. Families can create a similar or better learning environment for their children than TJ. It's harder to gain back their trust in the education system as a whole. Or maybe, they shouldn't.

So much angst! Hard work and good performance are always rewarded. All systems are unfair somehow, the admissions process is not discriminatory.

Under the old admissions process and the new one, there are more exceptional, excellent, and well qualified candidates than spots. So some will not be admitted. It is what it is. Should your trust be broken? Or should you be realistic and accepting?

Is that why the freshmen attrition rate has increased 10 folds in the new system? Is that why TJ now has to run Algebra review sessions? There are plenty other ways to do charities than this.

Freshman attrition has not increased 10 fold. The numbers that have been dropped on this site indicate that the attrition rate has stayed the same.

Oh, it is lol. If include the declined offers, it's 20 fold at least.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DD says last year Math was easier than this year’s question.

Wording on this year’s made it lil more confusing than last year’s question. According to her - once you get thru that then it is a straightforward answer.

DD messed her essays. Waitlisted

Asian, 4.00 GPA, pre-calculus

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian

Pre-calculus? What do kids do at TJ if they've already gone this far in math?

DC currently at TJ completed pre-calc in middle school, outside FCPS. past precalc, TJ has four levels: Calc AB, Calc BC, Multi/linear, elementary diff & applied math techniques

Anonymous wrote:DC waitlisted. 4.0. AP Pre-Calculus. Won gold, silver, bronze in different competitions. Volunteered a lot with the community (because DC wanted to do so, not bc of TJ. DC will continue doing so no matter what).

DC’s friends, DC, us and everyone knew DC were shocked with the result.

DC is resilient though. DC started discussing a new plan at base HS with us.

When did they complete alg 1/geo/alg 2?

DC completed Alg 1 in 6th grade, took a test and allowed to skip geo, alg 2 in 7th grade. In 8th grade, math teacher recommended DC to take AP Pre-Calculus rather than Pre-Calculus. DC is doing very well in the course.

AP Pre-Calculus? No such course at FCPS.

Yeah, it's a new course that College Board just came up with. It's pretty a dumb idea - but it would be worse if FCPS didn't offer it than if they do.

Good thing is kids finishing that course in 8th grade can do AP Calculus BC right in their 9th grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Results were a little better this year at out school. They accepted two of the top math students, but the top few students were waitlisted. Last year the top students were all waitlisted or rejected.

I did not know this until my kid got waitlisted, known top students get rejected, known mediocre kids get accepted at our school. Lesson learned. A word to the parents of top students - DO NOT punish your kids if they got rejected. I know some parents of top students are upset - including me. However, once you know the results, you can speculate what's going on. Talk to your kids about it if they are upset too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Results were a little better this year at out school. They accepted two of the top math students, but the top few students were waitlisted. Last year the top students were all waitlisted or rejected.

I did not know this until my kid got waitlisted, known top students get rejected, known mediocre kids get accepted at our school. Lesson learned. A word to the parents of top students - DO NOT punish your kids if they got rejected. I know some parents of top students are upset - including me. However, once you know the results, you can speculate what's going on. Talk to your kids about it if they are upset too.

Sometimes Carolyn Hax is right.

Before the admissions change and after, some students wrote "I do not want to go to TJ" for their essays. Those students are rejected - if they are punished by their parents for it, so be it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Results were a little better this year at out school. They accepted two of the top math students, but the top few students were waitlisted. Last year the top students were all waitlisted or rejected.

I did not know this until my kid got waitlisted, known top students get rejected, known mediocre kids get accepted at our school. Lesson learned. A word to the parents of top students - DO NOT punish your kids if they got rejected. I know some parents of top students are upset - including me. However, once you know the results, you can speculate what's going on. Talk to your kids about it if they are upset too.

u

No one would punish their kids for not getting in. Both parents and kids knows this is just a part of “Equity”. Everyone knows it will happen four years later to college application too. Just hope the kids will continue striving for excellence no matter what.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Results were a little better this year at out school. They accepted two of the top math students, but the top few students were waitlisted. Last year the top students were all waitlisted or rejected.

I did not know this until my kid got waitlisted, known top students get rejected, known mediocre kids get accepted at our school. Lesson learned. A word to the parents of top students - DO NOT punish your kids if they got rejected. I know some parents of top students are upset - including me. However, once you know the results, you can speculate what's going on. Talk to your kids about it if they are upset too.

u

No one would punish their kids for not getting in. Both parents and kids knows this is just a part of “Equity”. Everyone knows it will happen four years later to college application too. Just hope the kids will continue striving for excellence no matter what.

You are equating "equity" with "more candidates than spots". That's a strange language contortion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Results were a little better this year at out school. They accepted two of the top math students, but the top few students were waitlisted. Last year the top students were all waitlisted or rejected.

I did not know this until my kid got waitlisted, known top students get rejected, known mediocre kids get accepted at our school. Lesson learned. A word to the parents of top students - DO NOT punish your kids if they got rejected. I know some parents of top students are upset - including me. However, once you know the results, you can speculate what's going on. Talk to your kids about it if they are upset too.

Exact thing happened to my kid and my kid's school. I told my kid not to loose the passion for learning and continue all the projects my kid is doing. No matter what happens with TJ and college applications, no one can take away their talents and passion. When they begin their careers, all it matters is what they can do and the products they can build. This disappointment will help them grow.