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Anonymous wrote:What jobs need differential equations? Docs? Law? Math professor? Rocket scientist?

I have relatively low math background and have the best a career as a developer.

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Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian

Pre-calculus? What do kids do at TJ if they've already gone this far in math?

DC currently at TJ completed pre-calc in middle school, outside FCPS. past precalc, TJ has four levels: Calc AB, Calc BC, Multi/linear, elementary diff & applied math techniques

And then retake them all in college. Or major in humanities.

stem majors take follow math courses in college. retake only if student got a C or D. Your comment is as ridiculous as suggesting, taking four years of any subject like English, science, etc, in HS would have to be mean tretaking those courses in college?

I was a STEM (electrical engineering) major in college. Those were most of the math classes I took, absent one or two others (placed out of Calc and started with diff eq - no college will place student out of that, they will retake it). There's no reason to take them in high school, other than extreme acceleration and a need to take some sort of math class in high school.

A few minutes of googling will show you that UIUC, NCSU, and ASU are just a few of the institutions which offer departmental challenge exams for math classes like differential equations. Furthermore, the number of institutions that will let you place out of these classes informally greatly outnumbers those with formal programs mentioned in their website.

Engineering, physics, math, and grad school (not professional) in most other STEM subjects. In other words, the types of careers TJ students tend to follow. If your child is confident this isn't in their future, then they would likely do just as well at their base school

How about medicine?

If a biology-oriented TJ applicant had a great letter of recommendation from their middle school science teacher talking about their passion and aptitude, a high score on the science section of ACT Aspire, some bio based award (science olympiad has some biology events, some kids take USABO in middle school, etc.), a biology based problem solving essay, and some statement of what the kid hopes to accomplish at TJ, then it doesn't matter if the kid is less accomplished in math. It's a shame that none of this is included or considered in the application packet.

My child got in and has no issues with math or the TJ workload. They are a great student in all courses. Just not passionate about math. I was checking about how much additional benefit there is for a student interested in medicine attending.

Here is TJ's course selection sheet:
https://tjhsst.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/inline-files/2022-23%20Course%20Selection%20Sheet%2010th-12th%20grades%20UPDATES%2012.21.21.pdf

Kids interested in medicine would have access to classes in Microbial Genomics, bionanotechnology, neurobiology, DNA science, O-chem, and some other stuff.

The course selection sheet shows Japanese 2 as offered but online catalog is not showing that. Could anyone confirm if Japanese is offered at TJ.

it shows up to Japanese 5 and beyond. What do you mean?

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Anonymous wrote:What jobs need differential equations? Docs? Law? Math professor? Rocket scientist?

I have relatively low math background and have the best a career as a developer.

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Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian

Pre-calculus? What do kids do at TJ if they've already gone this far in math?

DC currently at TJ completed pre-calc in middle school, outside FCPS. past precalc, TJ has four levels: Calc AB, Calc BC, Multi/linear, elementary diff & applied math techniques

And then retake them all in college. Or major in humanities.

stem majors take follow math courses in college. retake only if student got a C or D. Your comment is as ridiculous as suggesting, taking four years of any subject like English, science, etc, in HS would have to be mean tretaking those courses in college?

I was a STEM (electrical engineering) major in college. Those were most of the math classes I took, absent one or two others (placed out of Calc and started with diff eq - no college will place student out of that, they will retake it). There's no reason to take them in high school, other than extreme acceleration and a need to take some sort of math class in high school.

A few minutes of googling will show you that UIUC, NCSU, and ASU are just a few of the institutions which offer departmental challenge exams for math classes like differential equations. Furthermore, the number of institutions that will let you place out of these classes informally greatly outnumbers those with formal programs mentioned in their website.

Engineering, physics, math, and grad school (not professional) in most other STEM subjects. In other words, the types of careers TJ students tend to follow. If your child is confident this isn't in their future, then they would likely do just as well at their base school

How about medicine?

If a biology-oriented TJ applicant had a great letter of recommendation from their middle school science teacher talking about their passion and aptitude, a high score on the science section of ACT Aspire, some bio based award (science olympiad has some biology events, some kids take USABO in middle school, etc.), a biology based problem solving essay, and some statement of what the kid hopes to accomplish at TJ, then it doesn't matter if the kid is less accomplished in math. It's a shame that none of this is included or considered in the application packet.

My child got in and has no issues with math or the TJ workload. They are a great student in all courses. Just not passionate about math. I was checking about how much additional benefit there is for a student interested in medicine attending.

Here is TJ's course selection sheet:
https://tjhsst.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/inline-files/2022-23%20Course%20Selection%20Sheet%2010th-12th%20grades%20UPDATES%2012.21.21.pdf

Kids interested in medicine would have access to classes in Microbial Genomics, bionanotechnology, neurobiology, DNA science, O-chem, and some other stuff.

The course selection sheet shows Japanese 2 as offered but online catalog is not showing that. Could anyone confirm if Japanese is offered at TJ.

It is not listed on the website for World Languages, but plan to ask this at the open house Wednesday or online sessions coming up.

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Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian

DD knows a kid with a 4.0 and taking pre-calc and did not get in. She said everyone is shocked.

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Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian

DD knows a kid with a 4.0 and taking pre-calc and did not get in. She said everyone is shocked.

That is very sad and strange. I hope they get in eventually. Makes no sense compared to other kids that got in. The 4.0 speaks to being well rounded academically and the precalculus shows an interest in math.

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Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian

DD knows a kid with a 4.0 and taking pre-calc and did not get in. She said everyone is shocked.

DS was accepted - he noted that the kid everyone thought would get in chose not to apply.

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Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian

DD knows a kid with a 4.0 and taking pre-calc and did not get in. She said everyone is shocked.

DS was accepted - he noted that the kid everyone thought would get in chose not to apply.

Agreed. Likely the case here.

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Results were a little better this year at out school. They accepted two of the top math students, but the top few students were waitlisted. Last year the top students were all waitlisted or rejected.

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Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian

DD knows a kid with a 4.0 and taking pre-calc and did not get in. She said everyone is shocked.

DS was accepted - he noted that the kid everyone thought would get in chose not to apply.

Or is that just what they are saying so they don't need to answer questions about why they did not get in?

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Anonymous wrote:TJ outreach people that came to our school told us nothing about needing to take Math beyond algebra. Now we are hearing calculus is required at TJ. Not sure why they didnt mention this requirment?

A CS class is also a requirement. As for calculus being required, it's the natural progression from having taken Algebra in 7th or 8th grade.

CS is a intro class, not bad. But math classes are difficult and lot more indepth than base school math.

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Anonymous wrote:DD says last year Math was easier than this year’s question.

Wording on this year’s made it lil more confusing than last year’s question. According to her - once you get thru that then it is a straightforward answer.

DD messed her essays. Waitlisted

Asian, 4.00 GPA, pre-calculus

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Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian

Pre-calculus? What do kids do at TJ if they've already gone this far in math?

DC currently at TJ completed pre-calc in middle school, outside FCPS. past precalc, TJ has four levels: Calc AB, Calc BC, Multi/linear, elementary diff & applied math techniques

Anonymous wrote:DC waitlisted. 4.0. AP Pre-Calculus. Won gold, silver, bronze in different competitions. Volunteered a lot with the community (because DC wanted to do so, not bc of TJ. DC will continue doing so no matter what).

DC’s friends, DC, us and everyone knew DC were shocked with the result.

DC is resilient though. DC started discussing a new plan at base HS with us.

When did they complete alg 1/geo/alg 2?

DC completed Alg 1 in 6th grade, took a test and allowed to skip geo, alg 2 in 7th grade. In 8th grade, math teacher recommended DC to take AP Pre-Calculus rather than Pre-Calculus. DC is doing very well in the course.

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Anonymous wrote:What schools are kids taking Algebra II and Precalculus? Our school doesn't offer these and the kids who got in are very good students but not brilliant.

Possibly LoCo. They accelerate a lot more than Fairfax does although they have recently been reducing the very large numbers of students taking Algebra in 6th to a slightly smaller large number.

If a MS doesn't offer advanced math courses, FCPS will have online options or in-class for kids at AAP centers.

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Anonymous wrote:Results were a little better this year at out school. They accepted two of the top math students, but the top few students were waitlisted. Last year the top students were all waitlisted or rejected.

For both admitted and non-admitted students, the new admissions regime shows them that hard work and good performance will not be rewarded and unfairness/discrimination in the system cannot be challenged. Families can create a similar or better learning environment for their children than TJ. It's harder to gain back their trust in the education system as a whole. Or maybe, they shouldn't.

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Anonymous wrote:Results were a little better this year at out school. They accepted two of the top math students, but the top few students were waitlisted. Last year the top students were all waitlisted or rejected.

For both admitted and non-admitted students, the new admissions regime shows them that hard work and good performance will not be rewarded and unfairness/discrimination in the system cannot be challenged. Families can create a similar or better learning environment for their children than TJ. It's harder to gain back their trust in the education system as a whole. Or maybe, they shouldn't.

A kid in my DD's school admitted this year, in her own words, said she "barely survived" Alg 1 with help from her friend. Her friend and the best kids there all got rejected or waitlisted.

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Anonymous wrote:What jobs need differential equations? Docs? Law? Math professor? Rocket scientist?

I have relatively low math background and have the best a career as a developer.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian

Pre-calculus? What do kids do at TJ if they've already gone this far in math?

DC currently at TJ completed pre-calc in middle school, outside FCPS. past precalc, TJ has four levels: Calc AB, Calc BC, Multi/linear, elementary diff & applied math techniques

And then retake them all in college. Or major in humanities.

stem majors take follow math courses in college. retake only if student got a C or D. Your comment is as ridiculous as suggesting, taking four years of any subject like English, science, etc, in HS would have to be mean tretaking those courses in college?

I was a STEM (electrical engineering) major in college. Those were most of the math classes I took, absent one or two others (placed out of Calc and started with diff eq - no college will place student out of that, they will retake it). There's no reason to take them in high school, other than extreme acceleration and a need to take some sort of math class in high school.

A few minutes of googling will show you that UIUC, NCSU, and ASU are just a few of the institutions which offer departmental challenge exams for math classes like differential equations. Furthermore, the number of institutions that will let you place out of these classes informally greatly outnumbers those with formal programs mentioned in their website.

Engineering, physics, math, and grad school (not professional) in most other STEM subjects. In other words, the types of careers TJ students tend to follow. If your child is confident this isn't in their future, then they would likely do just as well at their base school

How about medicine?

If a biology-oriented TJ applicant had a great letter of recommendation from their middle school science teacher talking about their passion and aptitude, a high score on the science section of ACT Aspire, some bio based award (science olympiad has some biology events, some kids take USABO in middle school, etc.), a biology based problem solving essay, and some statement of what the kid hopes to accomplish at TJ, then it doesn't matter if the kid is less accomplished in math. It's a shame that none of this is included or considered in the application packet.

My child got in and has no issues with math or the TJ workload. They are a great student in all courses. Just not passionate about math. I was checking about how much additional benefit there is for a student interested in medicine attending.

One advantage is that the rigor would make it easier to get a high GPA in freshman premed coursework (biology and chemistry).

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Anonymous wrote:DS Accepted. pre-calculus, 4.0, Asian

DD knows a kid with a 4.0 and taking pre-calc and did not get in. She said everyone is shocked.

Did they practice the portrait of a graduate and the problem solving essay at you-know-where?