DAS holders routinely wait 15-20 minutes in the DAS return/lightening lane line. It’s not front of the line access. |
Can you share what you read? We are going in March when it will be crowded and are trying to make it the only time. |
Scooters don’t skip attraction lines. And they don’t qualify for DAS. If a DAS holder is on the scooter, that is not the reason they qualified. Scooters do skip bus lines. |
DP here. It varies by park. For everywhere but MK, you want to pick attractions in the order in which they are going to “sell out” because by the time you can choose next, it won’t be there. For MK, there are so many choices, many people instead choose the shortest return times. It’s still tough to get headliners if you do this though. |
+1 I find it enjoyable to slowly and methodically plan my vacation - particularly for Disney - and when i'm ON the vacation to just execute what i planned. With the old system this is exactly what we did. We had down time scheduled in nicely since we knew when the ride slots were and it worked out great. The new system is more stressful since all day you're trying to see what's next. |
Then quit complaining about others "scamming" the system. Your 2 year old won't even remember any of this. |
+1 One thing I think is great about the current DAS system is that DAS passes aren't given for mobility issues like those on scooters. In the old days, a person on a scooter would be given front-of-the-line access along with their entire party. If the person the only issue is mobility, being about to ride a scooter solves that. I guess I don't understand how DAS users are cheating. Users can't have more than six people ride with them, so there aren't going to be huge crowds following each user. It's not as if DAS users skip the line. The same-day DAS selections do allow users to technically skip the line, in that they don't have to stand in the regular line. Instead, they are given a return time that roughly corresponds with the wait time. If they didn't have DAS, the user and their party would be in the regular line. I guess people are mad that others with disabilities don't have to stand in line with them? My daughter has an invisible disability that is pretty awful. She doesn't like to talk about it and never uses it as an excuse. When planning a Disney trip, she was reluctant to ask for DAS. I told her that there was no shame in asking for something that would make her trip easier. If you had a choice between waiting in Disney lines and dealing with what she or many other disabled people endure on a daily basis, you would 100% pick the lines. |
We have DAS. I get why people are mad. While we are waiting in the DAS virtual line, we can get something to eat, sit down somewhere cool and restful, or even go on low key attractions that are low/no wait, like People Mover or Swiss Family Treehouse. Its not equal access, its better access. |
When I went, every hour was peak hour. I hear what you're saying and that worked on an earlier trip for me, but they PACK the parks now. You can barely move. DP |
You have to pull the kids from school if you are insistent on lesser crowds. Its just math. |
Do you mean closer parking spaces for people with disabilities? I guess I understand being mad at people who are faking disabilities, but what difference does it make to anyone else if your family is sitting in Carousel of Progress while they stand in line? It's not like you are making them or anyone else wait longer. Or are people mad that they have to wait longer because, without DAS, annoying disabled people and their families wouldn't go to Disney, so the parks would be less crowded? Is that the argument? If people are that angry, they can pay for Genie Plus or individual lightning lanes and have a similar experience. |
My kid uses the DAS pass. We have never waited 15-20 minutes in a lightening lane. Sometimes we've waited 10 minutes (Rise, SOARIN, Remy, Pirates) but never more. My kid won't do Tower of Terror, Slinky Dog or Everest so perhaps that is the disconnect. |
Do you appreciate the way the current DAS system works? How would your experience or decision to go to Disney be different if DAS weren't available? |
I am able, for free, to do two things at once. I can be in a virtual line for Seven Dwarves while also being in a physical line for Winnie the Pooh. Or I can go eat lunch while I am "waiting in line." This saves a lot of time and is free, unlike Genie+. And yes, it makes fewer lightening lane slots available to paying customers because Disney knows they have to accommodate DAS. So when all those "slots" to Big Thunder are gone for the day, its because Disney is also factoring in how many DAS returners they will have. Its not zero sum. DAS holders try to act like "Oh, I'm still waiting, I'm just waiting somewhere else!" But that's not really true. Normal park goers cannot be in two lines at once, or have a sit down lunch while waiting in a line. |
Wow NEVER? I find that very hard to believe since it happens pretty regularly. Its the same line as Genie+ and people complain about this a lot. I'd say we wait 10 minutes for almost every ride and 15-20 minutes for the more in-demand rides. For 7DMT you have to do the entire inside switchback line after the merge. For Big Thunder you have to do the entire down ramp and then wait several trains to get one. I think you are just underestimating the time you are waiting. |