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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Side question: what do kids do while waiting in line? Look at phones?[/quote]

They lose their GD minds. I have really great, well behaved kids, but it's a LOT to ask a 2 year old to wait in line 45+ min. 90 min? Shoot me. And then you repeat all day for 12 hours straight. But to answer your question, we play games on our boogie boards, color, eat a million snacks. I really wish we could have strollers so my 2 year old could nap, but no it's fine if I hold her for HOURS every day. Just schedule a chiropractor appt when you return.

All of my friends whose kids have even minor diagnoses like ADHD or Autism get special medical exemption to cut the line. I actually think this might be why lines are longer for everyone else. One friend made it up and it worked although you do have to have a brief interview with Disney to get the medical pass. [/quote]

You're asking for trouble by bringing 2 year olds. My kids are older and we're going for the first time to WDW in a few months. The youngest is 8. We've done Disneyland several times and have mastered Genie+ such that we almost never wait in a line more than 20 mins. Knowing how much patience is required for the heat, lines, and crowds why do people bring babies and toddlers? It's setting them up for failure.[/quote]

Because I too have older kids? My 5 and 7 year old are over the moon with Disney World. Sadly Disney doesn't offer daycare where I can drop the littlest off for the day.

Also, the 2 year old LOVED Minne and Mickey. She also really liked the rides that she went on too. [/quote]

You could just wait until your 2 yr old is older. [/quote]

OK? But I'm not. My 5 and 7 year olds want to go right now while it's still magical for them. And Dh and I don't want to split up with our vacations. FWIW the 2 year old only waited for rides she could ride, the rest of the time her and I played outside while the others rode Tower of Terror or Space Mountain or whatever.

I'm in a lot of Disney groups and the Disney DAS (the disability pass) scam is alive and well. It's no wonder it seems 10% of the park is on a ride on scooter. It's great that they let some autistic kids skip the line, but they're making it more miserable for everyone. If the lines were shorter for everyone, the autistic kid could easily wait 15-20 min. [/quote]

Scooters don’t skip attraction lines. And they don’t qualify for DAS. If a DAS holder is on the scooter, that is not the reason they qualified. Scooters do skip bus lines. [/quote]

+1  One thing I think is great about the current DAS system is that DAS passes aren't given for mobility issues like those on scooters. In the old days, a person on a scooter would be given front-of-the-line access along with their entire party. If the person the only issue is mobility, being about to ride a scooter solves that.

I guess I don't understand how DAS users are cheating. Users can't have more than six people ride with them, so there aren't going to be huge crowds following each user. It's not as if DAS users skip the line. The same-day DAS selections do allow users to technically skip the line, in that they don't have to stand in the regular line. Instead, they are given a return time that roughly corresponds with the wait time. If they didn't have DAS, the user and their party would be in the regular line. I guess people are mad that others with disabilities don't have to stand in line with them?

My daughter has an invisible disability that is pretty awful. She doesn't like to talk about it and never uses it as an excuse. When planning a Disney trip, she was reluctant to ask for DAS. I told her that there was no shame in asking for something that would make her trip easier. If you had a choice between waiting in Disney lines and dealing with what she or many other disabled people endure on a daily basis, you would 100% pick the lines.[/quote]

We have DAS. I get why people are mad. While we are waiting in the DAS virtual line, we can get something to eat, sit down somewhere cool and restful, or even go on low key attractions that are low/no wait, like People Mover or Swiss Family Treehouse. [b]Its not equal access, its better access.[/b] [/quote]

Do you mean closer parking spaces for people with disabilities? I guess I understand being mad at people who are faking disabilities, but what difference does it make to anyone else if your family is sitting in Carousel of Progress while they stand in line? It's not like you are making them or anyone else wait longer. Or are people mad that they have to wait longer because, without DAS, annoying disabled people and their families wouldn't go to Disney, so the parks would be less crowded? Is that the argument? If people are that angry, they can pay for Genie Plus or individual lightning lanes and have a similar experience.[/quote]

I am able, for free, to do two things at once. I can be in a virtual line for Seven Dwarves while also being in a physical line for Winnie the Pooh. Or I can go eat lunch while I am "waiting in line." This saves a lot of time and is free, unlike Genie+. And yes, it makes fewer lightening lane slots available to paying customers because Disney knows they have to accommodate DAS. So when all those "slots" to Big Thunder are gone for the day, its because Disney is also factoring in how many DAS returners they will have. Its not zero sum. DAS holders try to act like "Oh, I'm still waiting, I'm just waiting somewhere else!" But that's not really true. Normal park goers cannot be in two lines at once, or have a sit down lunch while waiting in a line. [/quote]

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