Getting shut out of selective/competitive private schools

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:He has a good chance at many of these places.


+1. For an Econ major, I would ED2 at Middleburry. That and Williams are my dream schools! I don’t understand the large state flagship craze and would hire a grad from a top SLAC over that any day, but to each their own.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP your private is not getting your kid into those schools what a waste of money you spent


Fix the list

Your private is not competitive at all and those stats coming from a small private lol no

Not only that your kid will struggle because you failed to get them properly educated before applying

Yep this is on your poor decision making of putting your kid in a small private


What the actual heck?! My kid attend a small private in NYC. Every year it sends 40-45% of the class to Ivies + MIT and Stanford,
another 40-45% to Top 25 + top 10 LACs and the bottom 10% go to schools like St. Andrews and the likes. Top, rigorous small privates tend to have amazing exmissions.
Anonymous
Yes but the 33 is not high enough for a definitive shot at Midd plus the kid probably does not have a first gen hook which is big at Middlebury.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:DS with 3.82 (high rigor); 33 ACT and non-Stem /business /Econ major (true humanities major) with strong pointy related ECs.
Private selective non-DMV high school.

He’s finished with his RD apps.
Deferred from both NU (ED) and Tulane (EA).

He’s got a bunch of decisions from large flagships coming in next month. Concerned he falls into that middle space and may get dinged everywhere else.

Thoughts on chances for these reaches:

Colgate
Bucknell
Middlebury
Wesleyan
Williams
Wake
Emory
Vanderbilt
Wash U
Rice
Brown

Thoughts on chancing him?



Only real shot is Bucknell.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In my opinion, 3.82/33 is marginally better than 3.82/test optional.

The list is far too reachy. Add several more realistic schools. Look for schools where it makes sense to submit 33.

Colgate - acceptance rate probably too low
Bucknell - maybe ED2
Middlebury - acceptance rate probably too low
Wesleyan - maybe ED2
Williams - no chance
Wake - maybe ED2
Emory - maybe ED2
Vanderbilt - no chance
Wash U - no chance
Rice - no chance
Brown - no chance


Colgate is one of the easier of this list. I would ED2 there.


It’s probably going to be.10% acceptance this year. No shot.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Also, 33 ACT is weak for this list.
I’d apply TO to most of these schools

no

Agree, 33is not weak for many of the schools on the list.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DS with 3.82 (high rigor); 33 ACT and non-Stem /business /Econ major (true humanities major) with strong pointy related ECs.
Private selective non-DMV high school.

He’s finished with his RD apps.
Deferred from both NU (ED) and Tulane (EA).

He’s got a bunch of decisions from large flagships coming in next month. Concerned he falls into that middle space and may get dinged everywhere else.

Thoughts on chances for these reaches:

Colgate
Bucknell
Middlebury
Wesleyan
Williams
Wake
Emory
Vanderbilt
Wash U
Rice
Brown

Thoughts on chancing him?



Only real shot is Bucknell.



Don't mean this unkindly, but reality check

Brown, Rice, WashU, Vandy, Emory, Williams, Wesleyan, and Middlebury are not likely to happen.

33 is not high enough.

3.82 doesn't say much on its own. Private school and all that. Different measurements. But you are competing with public school kids that have taken a dozen APs and are rolling with 4.7s and 36s. The ECs would really need to be extra special. Plus the essays. And the recs.

Bucknell, Colgate, and even Wake Forest are possible. Strategically, it would have been much better to apply ED.

Do not get down about large flagships. They often have great programs and are great feeders into lots of companies and organizations.

Best of luck. It'll work out fine in the end.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I would think he would get into Colgate and bucknell. He should have some true safeties.


Maybe Bucknell, but Colgate should have been an ED. This is the problem that ED has created. There is a huge range of schools that slightly less than perfect kids can only get into ED, but you can only ED to one. If it’s a miss, you fall pretty far down the list.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP your private is not getting your kid into those schools what a waste of money you spent


Fix the list

Your private is not competitive at all and those stats coming from a small private lol no

Not only that your kid will struggle because you failed to get them properly educated before applying

Yep this is on your poor decision making of putting your kid in a small private


What the actual heck?! My kid attend a small private in NYC. Every year it sends 40-45% of the class to Ivies + MIT and Stanford,
another 40-45% to Top 25 + top 10 LACs and the bottom 10% go to schools like St. Andrews and the likes. Top, rigorous small privates tend to have amazing exmissions.


That’s because NY means big money.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP your private is not getting your kid into those schools what a waste of money you spent


Fix the list

Your private is not competitive at all and those stats coming from a small private lol no

Not only that your kid will struggle because you failed to get them properly educated before applying

Yep this is on your poor decision making of putting your kid in a small private


What the actual heck?! My kid attend a small private in NYC. Every year it sends 40-45% of the class to Ivies + MIT and Stanford,
another 40-45% to Top 25 + top 10 LACs and the bottom 10% go to schools like St. Andrews and the likes. Top, rigorous small privates tend to have amazing exmissions.


That’s because NY means big money.


Money, legacies, knowing people, etc. And, small class size. Its very different with 100 graduates and 500-700 graduates at a school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:DS with 3.82 (high rigor); 33 ACT and non-Stem /business /Econ major (true humanities major) with strong pointy related ECs.
Private selective non-DMV high school.

He’s finished with his RD apps.
Deferred from both NU (ED) and Tulane (EA).

He’s got a bunch of decisions from large flagships coming in next month. Concerned he falls into that middle space and may get dinged everywhere else.

Thoughts on chances for these reaches:

Colgate
Bucknell
Middlebury
Wesleyan
Williams
Wake
Emory
Vanderbilt
Wash U
Rice
Brown

Thoughts on chancing him?



Great student but IMO chances are not at all good for the above schools. I wouldn't report the 33 ACT to these schools.
Has your DC applied to targets and likelies? Or only reaches?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Colgate, Bucknell, Middlebury, Wesleyan, and Wake are High Matches. The rest reaches. You need a safety.


I disagree - IMO only Bucknell is a match - the rest are all reaches for all
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:DS with 3.82 (high rigor); 33 ACT and non-Stem /business /Econ major (true humanities major) with strong pointy related ECs.
Private selective non-DMV high school.

He’s finished with his RD apps.
Deferred from both NU (ED) and Tulane (EA).

He’s got a bunch of decisions from large flagships coming in next month. Concerned he falls into that middle space and may get dinged everywhere else.

Thoughts on chances for these reaches:

Colgate
Bucknell
Middlebury
Wesleyan
Williams
Wake
Emory
Vanderbilt
Wash U
Rice
Brown

Thoughts on chancing him?



Colgate 50%
Bucknell 30%
Middlebury 5%
Wesleyan 7%
Williams 5%
Wake 7%
Emory 7%
Vanderbilt 3%
Wash U 5%
Rice 3%
Brown 1%
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DS with 3.82 (high rigor); 33 ACT and non-Stem /business /Econ major (true humanities major) with strong pointy related ECs.
Private selective non-DMV high school.

He’s finished with his RD apps.
Deferred from both NU (ED) and Tulane (EA).

He’s got a bunch of decisions from large flagships coming in next month. Concerned he falls into that middle space and may get dinged everywhere else.

Thoughts on chances for these reaches:

Colgate
Bucknell
Middlebury
Wesleyan
Williams
Wake
Emory
Vanderbilt
Wash U
Rice
Brown

Thoughts on chancing him?



Colgate 50%
Bucknell 30%
Middlebury 5%
Wesleyan 7%
Williams 5%
Wake 7%
Emory 7%
Vanderbilt 3%
Wash U 5%
Rice 3%
Brown 1%


Bump Bucknell to 70%
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP your private is not getting your kid into those schools what a waste of money you spent


Fix the list

Your private is not competitive at all and those stats coming from a small private lol no

Not only that your kid will struggle because you failed to get them properly educated before applying

Yep this is on your poor decision making of putting your kid in a small private


What the actual heck?! My kid attend a small private in NYC. Every year it sends 40-45% of the class to Ivies + MIT and Stanford,
another 40-45% to Top 25 + top 10 LACs and the bottom 10% go to schools like St. Andrews and the likes. Top, rigorous small privates tend to have amazing exmissions.


That kind of result is very rare — only seen it at a handful of schools in NY, Boston, couple of boarding. Here in the Bay Area, kids attending private selective high schools are not getting into schools like that. My kids did pretty well but they did a lot of activities outside of school and didn’t rely on the school for any bump.
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