Do US News Rankings Have any Impact on Admissions?

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Anonymous wrote:Disagree with PP about the impact on Asians, generally in our community they still aim for the same schools regardless of year-to-year shifts. Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, Penn, Duke, Columbia, are the ones I see are very popular and highly desirable amongst Asians in our area.

HYPSM, yes. Duke and Wharton, too. Not Columbia. Asians have always seen it Columbia as a fake, a backup school for stidents who couldn't get into actual elite schools. They are even more skeptical now that Columbia has been caught faking all its numbers.

I find it amusing that Chinese find Columbia cheating unacceptable.

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Anonymous wrote:Disagree with PP about the impact on Asians, generally in our community they still aim for the same schools regardless of year-to-year shifts. Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, Penn, Duke, Columbia, are the ones I see are very popular and highly desirable amongst Asians in our area.

HYPSM, yes. Duke and Wharton, too. Not Columbia. Asians have always seen it Columbia as a fake, a backup school for stidents who couldn't get into actual elite schools. They are even more skeptical now that Columbia has been caught faking all its numbers.

Which Asian group do you belong? I know Korean, Chinese, and Japanese communities treate Columbia just below HYP, above Penn, absolutely above Duke.

There is no one who is picking duke over Columbia unless it's for basketball.

You couldn’t pay me enough for me to send my kids to Columbia these days.

I agree. I would definitely choose Duke over Columbia these days.

And I suspect a majority of 18 years would make the same choice today. Columbia has always seemed like a stressful place that catered to a small group of students that really wanted to live in NY City. But after the past couple of years, I think the pool of students that want to go to Columbia has shrunk dramatically. No 18 year old wants all the noise and stress and the constant feeling of walking on eggshells that comes with the Columbia experience today. Duke seems infinitely more appealing to the vast majority of smart kids.

No student cares about any of the things you are talking about.
“Walking on eggshells” translates to not being a d*** and just being expressive about social causes-which students these days dont and won’t shut up about. Speculations on things we know to be false (less students interested in Columbia) is a waste of time for everyone involved.

And most 18 year olds would still choose Duke. Few want the shrillness of Columbia. But good news. The Oberlin kids now have another school to go to.

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Of course the rankongs have an impact!

https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w7227/w7227.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:Disagree with PP about the impact on Asians, generally in our community they still aim for the same schools regardless of year-to-year shifts. Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, Penn, Duke, Columbia, are the ones I see are very popular and highly desirable amongst Asians in our area.

HYPSM, yes. Duke and Wharton, too. Not Columbia. Asians have always seen it Columbia as a fake, a backup school for stidents who couldn't get into actual elite schools. They are even more skeptical now that Columbia has been caught faking all its numbers.

Which Asian group do you belong? I know Korean, Chinese, and Japanese communities treate Columbia just below HYP, above Penn, absolutely above Duke.

There is no one who is picking duke over Columbia unless it's for basketball.

What 18 year old associate college in New York as shrill, sounds like personal experience, not actual analysis.

You couldn’t pay me enough for me to send my kids to Columbia these days.

I agree. I would definitely choose Duke over Columbia these days.

And I suspect a majority of 18 years would make the same choice today. Columbia has always seemed like a stressful place that catered to a small group of students that really wanted to live in NY City. But after the past couple of years, I think the pool of students that want to go to Columbia has shrunk dramatically. No 18 year old wants all the noise and stress and the constant feeling of walking on eggshells that comes with the Columbia experience today. Duke seems infinitely more appealing to the vast majority of smart kids.

No student cares about any of the things you are talking about.
“Walking on eggshells” translates to not being a d*** and just being expressive about social causes-which students these days dont and won’t shut up about. Speculations on things we know to be false (less students interested in Columbia) is a waste of time for everyone involved.

And most 18 year olds would still choose Duke. Few want the shrillness of Columbia. But good news. The Oberlin kids now have another school to go to.

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Anonymous wrote:Disagree with PP about the impact on Asians, generally in our community they still aim for the same schools regardless of year-to-year shifts. Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, Penn, Duke, Columbia, are the ones I see are very popular and highly desirable amongst Asians in our area.

HYPSM, yes. Duke and Wharton, too. Not Columbia. Asians have always seen it Columbia as a fake, a backup school for stidents who couldn't get into actual elite schools. They are even more skeptical now that Columbia has been caught faking all its numbers.

Which Asian group do you belong? I know Korean, Chinese, and Japanese communities treate Columbia just below HYP, above Penn, absolutely above Duke.

There is no one who is picking duke over Columbia unless it's for basketball.

What 18 year old associate college in New York as shrill, sounds like personal experience, not actual analysis.

You couldn’t pay me enough for me to send my kids to Columbia these days.

I agree. I would definitely choose Duke over Columbia these days.

And I suspect a majority of 18 years would make the same choice today. Columbia has always seemed like a stressful place that catered to a small group of students that really wanted to live in NY City. But after the past couple of years, I think the pool of students that want to go to Columbia has shrunk dramatically. No 18 year old wants all the noise and stress and the constant feeling of walking on eggshells that comes with the Columbia experience today. Duke seems infinitely more appealing to the vast majority of smart kids.

No student cares about any of the things you are talking about.
“Walking on eggshells” translates to not being a d*** and just being expressive about social causes-which students these days dont and won’t shut up about. Speculations on things we know to be false (less students interested in Columbia) is a waste of time for everyone involved.

And most 18 year olds would still choose Duke. Few want the shrillness of Columbia. But good news. The Oberlin kids now have another school to go to.

What 18 year old associate college in New York as shrill, sounds like personal experience, not actual analysis. More people want Columbia than Duke

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Anonymous wrote:Disagree with PP about the impact on Asians, generally in our community they still aim for the same schools regardless of year-to-year shifts. Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, Penn, Duke, Columbia, are the ones I see are very popular and highly desirable amongst Asians in our area.

HYPSM, yes. Duke and Wharton, too. Not Columbia. Asians have always seen it Columbia as a fake, a backup school for stidents who couldn't get into actual elite schools. They are even more skeptical now that Columbia has been caught faking all its numbers.

Which Asian group do you belong? I know Korean, Chinese, and Japanese communities treate Columbia just below HYP, above Penn, absolutely above Duke.

There is no one who is picking duke over Columbia unless it's for basketball.

You couldn’t pay me enough for me to send my kids to Columbia these days.

I agree. I would definitely choose Duke over Columbia these days.

And I suspect a majority of 18 years would make the same choice today. Columbia has always seemed like a stressful place that catered to a small group of students that really wanted to live in NY City. But after the past couple of years, I think the pool of students that want to go to Columbia has shrunk dramatically. No 18 year old wants all the noise and stress and the constant feeling of walking on eggshells that comes with the Columbia experience today. Duke seems infinitely more appealing to the vast majority of smart kids.

it’s like the same idiot duke booster posting same as 3 different identities.

go to any elite private (andover, exeter, st. albans etc). ALL send far more to columbia than duke for a reason.

Duke’s yield (even with DI scholarships and random scholarships like carolina scholars) is shit compared to Columbia and will remain so

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Anonymous wrote:Disagree with PP about the impact on Asians, generally in our community they still aim for the same schools regardless of year-to-year shifts. Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, Penn, Duke, Columbia, are the ones I see are very popular and highly desirable amongst Asians in our area.

HYPSM, yes. Duke and Wharton, too. Not Columbia. Asians have always seen it Columbia as a fake, a backup school for stidents who couldn't get into actual elite schools. They are even more skeptical now that Columbia has been caught faking all its numbers.

Which Asian group do you belong? I know Korean, Chinese, and Japanese communities treate Columbia just below HYP, above Penn, absolutely above Duke.

There is no one who is picking duke over Columbia unless it's for basketball.

You couldn’t pay me enough for me to send my kids to Columbia these days.

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Anonymous wrote:Disagree with PP about the impact on Asians, generally in our community they still aim for the same schools regardless of year-to-year shifts. Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, Penn, Duke, Columbia, are the ones I see are very popular and highly desirable amongst Asians in our area.

HYPSM, yes. Duke and Wharton, too. Not Columbia. Asians have always seen it Columbia as a fake, a backup school for stidents who couldn't get into actual elite schools. They are even more skeptical now that Columbia has been caught faking all its numbers.

Which Asian group do you belong? I know Korean, Chinese, and Japanese communities treate Columbia just below HYP, above Penn, absolutely above Duke.

There is no one who is picking duke over Columbia unless it's for basketball.

You couldn’t pay me enough for me to send my kids to Columbia these days.

I agree. I would definitely choose Duke over Columbia these days.

And I suspect a majority of 18 years would make the same choice today. Columbia has always seemed like a stressful place that catered to a small group of students that really wanted to live in NY City. But after the past couple of years, I think the pool of students that want to go to Columbia has shrunk dramatically. No 18 year old wants all the noise and stress and the constant feeling of walking on eggshells that comes with the Columbia experience today. Duke seems infinitely more appealing to the vast majority of smart kids.

it’s like the same idiot duke booster posting same as 3 different identities.

go to any elite private (andover, exeter, st. albans etc). ALL send far more to columbia than duke for a reason.

Duke’s yield (even with DI scholarships and random scholarships like carolina scholars) is shit compared to Columbia and will remain so

Let’s see what expert parchment analysis has to say:

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=Duke+University&with=Columbia+University+in+the+City+of+New+York

Columbia 67%

Duke 33%


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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Disagree with PP about the impact on Asians, generally in our community they still aim for the same schools regardless of year-to-year shifts. Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, Penn, Duke, Columbia, are the ones I see are very popular and highly desirable amongst Asians in our area.

HYPSM, yes. Duke and Wharton, too. Not Columbia. Asians have always seen it Columbia as a fake, a backup school for stidents who couldn't get into actual elite schools. They are even more skeptical now that Columbia has been caught faking all its numbers.

Which Asian group do you belong? I know Korean, Chinese, and Japanese communities treate Columbia just below HYP, above Penn, absolutely above Duke.

There is no one who is picking duke over Columbia unless it's for basketball.

You couldn’t pay me enough for me to send my kids to Columbia these days.

I agree. I would definitely choose Duke over Columbia these days.

And I suspect a majority of 18 years would make the same choice today. Columbia has always seemed like a stressful place that catered to a small group of students that really wanted to live in NY City. But after the past couple of years, I think the pool of students that want to go to Columbia has shrunk dramatically. No 18 year old wants all the noise and stress and the constant feeling of walking on eggshells that comes with the Columbia experience today. Duke seems infinitely more appealing to the vast majority of smart kids.

it’s like the same idiot duke booster posting same as 3 different identities.

go to any elite private (andover, exeter, st. albans etc). ALL send far more to columbia than duke for a reason.

Duke’s yield (even with DI scholarships and random scholarships like carolina scholars) is shit compared to Columbia and will remain so

And here we have the idiot Columbia booster. The only people who want Columbia these days are moronic SJWs who aspire to be professional protesters.
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Anonymous wrote:Disagree with PP about the impact on Asians, generally in our community they still aim for the same schools regardless of year-to-year shifts. Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, Penn, Duke, Columbia, are the ones I see are very popular and highly desirable amongst Asians in our area.

HYPSM, yes. Duke and Wharton, too. Not Columbia. Asians have always seen it Columbia as a fake, a backup school for stidents who couldn't get into actual elite schools. They are even more skeptical now that Columbia has been caught faking all its numbers.

Which Asian group do you belong? I know Korean, Chinese, and Japanese communities treate Columbia just below HYP, above Penn, absolutely above Duke.

There is no one who is picking duke over Columbia unless it's for basketball.

You couldn’t pay me enough for me to send my kids to Columbia these days.

I agree. I would definitely choose Duke over Columbia these days.

And I suspect a majority of 18 years would make the same choice today. Columbia has always seemed like a stressful place that catered to a small group of students that really wanted to live in NY City. But after the past couple of years, I think the pool of students that want to go to Columbia has shrunk dramatically. No 18 year old wants all the noise and stress and the constant feeling of walking on eggshells that comes with the Columbia experience today. Duke seems infinitely more appealing to the vast majority of smart kids.

it’s like the same idiot duke booster posting same as 3 different identities.

go to any elite private (andover, exeter, st. albans etc). ALL send far more to columbia than duke for a reason.

Duke’s yield (even with DI scholarships and random scholarships like carolina scholars) is shit compared to Columbia and will remain so

Columbia only has a higher a yield than Duke because it accepts a larger percentage of its class under ED. For regular decision, the yields of Columbia and Duke are the same.

Columbia does have a lower acceptance rate.

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It must be Columbia's School of General Studies that makes more popular.

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Anonymous wrote:US News is very important. I see it in my job searches (top 60 school) and my kids (top 15).

Especially if non-Ivy, Stanford, or Duke, Chicago.

Ivy really gives you a leg up whether that Ivy is 11 or 13. Ivy is Ivy.

People who claim not to care are those (1) who didn't go to one, (2) whose kids can't get in, (3) don't want to pay for private colleges (or can't afford to).

Ivy is Ivy. The world is an arms race.

Most kids going to Ivy schools with get a graduate/professional degree. That additional degree is the one that "matters" in the "arms race" and the Ivy degree will be largely forgotten.

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Anonymous wrote:It must be Columbia's School of General Studies that makes more popular.

I wonder if the average incoming freshman at Columbia knows that up to 30% of their classmates are students at least 5-10 years older than they are.

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Anonymous wrote:Disagree with PP about the impact on Asians, generally in our community they still aim for the same schools regardless of year-to-year shifts. Harvard, Princeton, Stanford, Penn, Duke, Columbia, are the ones I see are very popular and highly desirable amongst Asians in our area.

HYPSM, yes. Duke and Wharton, too. Not Columbia. Asians have always seen it Columbia as a fake, a backup school for stidents who couldn't get into actual elite schools. They are even more skeptical now that Columbia has been caught faking all its numbers.

Which Asian group do you belong? I know Korean, Chinese, and Japanese communities treate Columbia just below HYP, above Penn, absolutely above Duke.

There is no one who is picking duke over Columbia unless it's for basketball.

You couldn’t pay me enough for me to send my kids to Columbia these days.

Unfortunately, no one pays you, and you kids will never get into Columbia.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:US News is very important. I see it in my job searches (top 60 school) and my kids (top 15).

Especially if non-Ivy, Stanford, or Duke, Chicago.

Ivy really gives you a leg up whether that Ivy is 11 or 13. Ivy is Ivy.

People who claim not to care are those (1) who didn't go to one, (2) whose kids can't get in, (3) don't want to pay for private colleges (or can't afford to).

Ivy is Ivy. The world is an arms race.

Most kids going to Ivy schools with get a graduate/professional degree. That additional degree is the one that "matters" in the "arms race" and the Ivy degree will be largely forgotten.

But the Ivy undergraduate degree is what gets you in the door for the top professional degree.