Does this Taylor Swift fling with the NFL football brute seem super fake?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a fan of TS but I don't live under a rock. I know that this woman was the first to sell out a billion dollar show and has had the highest grossing tour in history. Armed with this knowledge alone, why on earth would anyone think that she needs more publicity? I think she's good.

And while Travis Kelce is likeable, he's not bringing any more press than she's already got. I mean, TS could date a Starbucks barista and get just as much press as she's getting now.

Many of her collabs appear geared toward getting her in front of new audiences. She is aiming for world domination here.

Just look at who she has collaborated with in music alone, and you'll see what demographics she is aiming for. The list is long. This is planned far in advance.

She will be smart not to get tied down in a relationship. Once you have to keep a relationship going, it's not as interesting to fans.

The timing is one of the major reasons it looks fake. Why would a football player start a new relationship with an extremely high profile woman (who is currently in the middle of a world tour) in Week 3 of the football season? That doesn't make any sense at all, unless you consider that doing it during the season will mean that their interactions are more public. Why would they want their relationship to be especially public? If they were really into each other, why wouldn't they initiate their relationship in the most showy, public way possible, essentially having their first date on national television and in the middle of the media frenzy that is an NFL game?

These are not the decisions of people who are just attracted to each other and trying to see where it goes. These are choices made by publicists in order to garner as many eyeballs as possible and stoke interest in both of them.

Pretty sure Kelce is with William Morris and Taylor has a long-standing partnership with WME. So it was probably cooked up by the agency to raise his profile and I'm sure Taylor is getting some sort of payment from the NFL (she's certainly attracting female eyeballs if she is regularly attending games this season).

The whole thing is rigged.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know understand why she doesn’t go after some sophisticated high powered executive? That’s what I would do if I were her! Not someone who runs after a ball all day.

I think that's what she'll do eventually, if and when she is ready to settle down and start a family (and maybe she'll never want to do that, which is also perfectly fine).

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a fan of TS but I don't live under a rock. I know that this woman was the first to sell out a billion dollar show and has had the highest grossing tour in history. Armed with this knowledge alone, why on earth would anyone think that she needs more publicity? I think she's good.

And while Travis Kelce is likeable, he's not bringing any more press than she's already got. I mean, TS could date a Starbucks barista and get just as much press as she's getting now.

Many of her collabs appear geared toward getting her in front of new audiences. She is aiming for world domination here.

Just look at who she has collaborated with in music alone, and you'll see what demographics she is aiming for. The list is long. This is planned far in advance.

She will be smart not to get tied down in a relationship. Once you have to keep a relationship going, it's not as interesting to fans.

The timing is one of the major reasons it looks fake. Why would a football player start a new relationship with an extremely high profile woman (who is currently in the middle of a world tour) in Week 3 of the football season? That doesn't make any sense at all, unless you consider that doing it during the season will mean that their interactions are more public. Why would they want their relationship to be especially public? If they were really into each other, why wouldn't they initiate their relationship in the most showy, public way possible, essentially having their first date on national television and in the middle of the media frenzy that is an NFL game?

These are not the decisions of people who are just attracted to each other and trying to see where it goes. These are choices made by publicists in order to garner as many eyeballs as possible and stoke interest in both of them.

Her tour movie comes out in October 2023. $20 per ticket and she gets half the points. Biggest ever payday for her if it’s successful. Plus this brute is old in football years so CAA is setting him up for podcasts and movies. Probably hope he becomes a Joe Rogan and/or The Rock.

You know even Mr. Kurtz only used "brutes" once. At this point it seems excessive.

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Anonymous wrote:The guy is a gigantic brute tight end, so he doesn't look like anyone she's ever dated. I thought maybe it was authentic but then I see her going viral right now for celebrating at the game. Her reaction to him scoring a touchdown looked soooooooo fake and contrived. I'm now convinced this is entirely fake. But why?

This fake crap has been telegraphed for months with various “viral” clips of macho NFL players at her concerts. It’s cool and okay for men to listen to her catalog! She’s targeting the football demo. Tens of millions of men—over 30 million Americans have a fantasy football team. This cohort swings general elections, which I’m assuming is the real motive here.

Yep! This is why you have so many football teams talking about their fave TS songs. Do we really think that was not planned?!

The teams were asked about favorite songs because Swift’s tour was in town. I doubt she’s been working with the NFL. She sold out a stadium tour without their help.

Either way, this appears to be a calculated move to keep attention and get money. Get attached to a dude with millions of fans, appear at an event being watched by millions between your own shows, etc.

I still think there's a connection. TS played stadiums. Who uses the stadiums the most? Football teams. Lots of cross promo opportunities. If she isn't being paid directly, she's still able to earn money from her appearance at the game by getting NFL daddies to buy tix to her movie for their kids.

And she previously said her relationships were not up for discussion and kept them mostly under wraps. But now she changed her mind?

She is only seen when she wants to be seen. She has security that can make sure of that. Like, we never see her in Utah, do we? But her plane flies there.

She's in control of her story and she's brilliant or has brilliant people working for her.

Again, it's the opposite. The relationship benefits him, not her.

He is trying to break into entertainment from his football career. He has a podcast with his brother, had a short-lived reality program, and hosted SNL last year after winning the SuperBowl. He is looking towards the end of his football career and trying to lift his profile for a career in acting, realty TV, maybe broadcasting or similar. But for that he needs a fan base beyond Chiefs fans and fantasy football people. He's not a QB and that can make leap from football to entertainment more difficult.

I don't really get what's in it for her. I don't think she needs the exposure.

Kelce is a popular NFL player. I don’t think he needs her to successfully transition to the entertainment industry. I actually think the label of “Taylor Swift’s boyfriend” can hurt more than help.

Few athletes can actually translate a successful athletic career into a career in entertainment. TS is a MUCH bigger name in traditional entertainment. He is absolutely getting far more out of this than she is.

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Anonymous wrote:The guy is a gigantic brute tight end, so he doesn't look like anyone she's ever dated. I thought maybe it was authentic but then I see her going viral right now for celebrating at the game. Her reaction to him scoring a touchdown looked soooooooo fake and contrived. I'm now convinced this is entirely fake. But why?

This fake crap has been telegraphed for months with various “viral” clips of macho NFL players at her concerts. It’s cool and okay for men to listen to her catalog! She’s targeting the football demo. Tens of millions of men—over 30 million Americans have a fantasy football team. This cohort swings general elections, which I’m assuming is the real motive here.

Yep! This is why you have so many football teams talking about their fave TS songs. Do we really think that was not planned?!

The teams were asked about favorite songs because Swift’s tour was in town. I doubt she’s been working with the NFL. She sold out a stadium tour without their help.

Either way, this appears to be a calculated move to keep attention and get money. Get attached to a dude with millions of fans, appear at an event being watched by millions between your own shows, etc.

I still think there's a connection. TS played stadiums. Who uses the stadiums the most? Football teams. Lots of cross promo opportunities. If she isn't being paid directly, she's still able to earn money from her appearance at the game by getting NFL daddies to buy tix to her movie for their kids.

And she previously said her relationships were not up for discussion and kept them mostly under wraps. But now she changed her mind?

She is only seen when she wants to be seen. She has security that can make sure of that. Like, we never see her in Utah, do we? But her plane flies there.

She's in control of her story and she's brilliant or has brilliant people working for her.

Again, it's the opposite. The relationship benefits him, not her.

He is trying to break into entertainment from his football career. He has a podcast with his brother, had a short-lived reality program, and hosted SNL last year after winning the SuperBowl. He is looking towards the end of his football career and trying to lift his profile for a career in acting, realty TV, maybe broadcasting or similar. But for that he needs a fan base beyond Chiefs fans and fantasy football people. He's not a QB and that can make leap from football to entertainment more difficult.

I don't really get what's in it for her. I don't think she needs the exposure.

Kelce is a popular NFL player. I don’t think he needs her to successfully transition to the entertainment industry. I actually think the label of “Taylor Swift’s boyfriend” can hurt more than help.

Everything after "Kelce is a popular NFL player" is just dead wrong. I'm going to assume you don't work in PR.

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Anonymous wrote:Meh she’s from Texas, after all. She started in country pop. The singer/athlete thing worked for j Simpson. I think it’s got better odds than the musician/actor guys. She may be ready to have a baby, and those brothers have good genes.

She’s from Pennsylvania. I am living for this so I truly hope it is legit. She needs a real man who doesn’t mind attention. I think it is great. They are both the best of the best in their respective fields and probably have so much respect for each other. That is a great foundation for a relationship.

+1 I love this actually!

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I don't get all these comments like "she has enough fans" or "she has enough money." She wants even more! And why shouldn't she?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a fan of TS but I don't live under a rock. I know that this woman was the first to sell out a billion dollar show and has had the highest grossing tour in history. Armed with this knowledge alone, why on earth would anyone think that she needs more publicity? I think she's good.

And while Travis Kelce is likeable, he's not bringing any more press than she's already got. I mean, TS could date a Starbucks barista and get just as much press as she's getting now.

Many of her collabs appear geared toward getting her in front of new audiences. She is aiming for world domination here.

Just look at who she has collaborated with in music alone, and you'll see what demographics she is aiming for. The list is long. This is planned far in advance.

She will be smart not to get tied down in a relationship. Once you have to keep a relationship going, it's not as interesting to fans.

The timing is one of the major reasons it looks fake. Why would a football player start a new relationship with an extremely high profile woman (who is currently in the middle of a world tour) in Week 3 of the football season? That doesn't make any sense at all, unless you consider that doing it during the season will mean that their interactions are more public. Why would they want their relationship to be especially public? If they were really into each other, why wouldn't they initiate their relationship in the most showy, public way possible, essentially having their first date on national television and in the middle of the media frenzy that is an NFL game?

These are not the decisions of people who are just attracted to each other and trying to see where it goes. These are choices made by publicists in order to garner as many eyeballs as possible and stoke interest in both of them.

Pretty sure Kelce is with William Morris and Taylor has a long-standing partnership with WME. So it was probably cooked up by the agency to raise his profile and I'm sure Taylor is getting some sort of payment from the NFL (she's certainly attracting female eyeballs if she is regularly attending games this season).

The whole thing is rigged.

Yes I am sure Taylor is hurting for cash and desperate for whatever WME will toss her way...

/s

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know if it’s fake but it’s not serious.

I was kinda hoping she and Sophie would have a fling. I’m a bit bummed.

You are bummed two clearly heterosexual women don't want to have s&x with each other and instead have a supportive friendship? I don't understand people who seem to want her to be gay when she very clearly is not. And I have no problems with gay people but like, people can be heterosexual! At this point she has dated like 15 men sequentially and written song after song about her heartbreaks, stop trying to make gaylor happen and let her be!

I don’t think only gay people date those of the same sex. Sexuality can also be fluid.

You need to calm down.

Sexuality can be fluid, but sometimes it isn't. I just think its bizarre to be disappointed in her that she continually dates men. There is a ridiculously large population convinced she is married to Karlie Kloss in secret. It's just weird.

I will never understand why people invest their time in conspiracy theories about completely inconsequential people/things.

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Anonymous wrote:Her $20 per ticket concert movie is going to be in theaters in a couple weeks. This is obviously a fake media…blitz…to help her generate a $500M payday from it.

She already has.. in presales.

Also it's $19.89

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Anonymous wrote:It's incredibly fake. And it's not about raising her profile with certain demographics. It's about raising HIS profile with her core demos. Also likely why you see NFL players talking about their favorite Taylor Swift songs. They want to boost interest in the sport among women age 18-35. It's a major, and profitable marketing demographic and professional sports teams are finally realizing it.

She's done this before with Tom Hiddleston. Also, similarly, he was a guy with his star on the rise and despite it being as fake as fake can be, Hiddleston's "relationship" with Swift exposed him to a broader audience, including more women in the US. It coincided with his lead role in the Night Manager, and I think the goal was to get audiences to see him as more of a leading man, instead of the baddie/comic relief that he plays as Loki in the Avenger movies (notably, Hiddleston auditioned for the role of Thor but got cast as Loki, he's been trying to break into the leading man game for awhile).

Anyway, Swift and Hiddleston "dated" for 3 months in the summer of 2016 and literally every week they'd release new photos of them doing something together -- hanging with her famous friends at the beach, him meeting her parents, the two of them on vacation in Italy looking like they were wearing costumes from the Marvelous Mr. Ripley.

This round was obviously scheduled to coincide with the football season. Expect to see her attending games in various cities, some kind of special date/vacation together during his buy week, etc. Then they'll start to "drift apart" around Christmas and by the playoffs she'll be wishing him the best but "focusing on her next album" while he gears up for another SB run.

I haven't quite figured out what Swift gets out of it. Maybe she really is gay and trying to cover it up, which I would find weirdly regressive for her and not necessary. Maybe she is truly trying to find a life partner and this is part of a years long effort by her team to set her up with various eligible bachelors and see if one of them sticks. But the extremely public nature of these relationships and the very obviously staged photo ops really speaks to it being fake and for PR. I just don't quite get her angle. Maybe she's just messing with people. Maybe she knows that the higher profile her exes, the more interest it creates in her next break up album. I don't know.

Swift is clearly comfortable in the public eye and doesn’t hide away (except during Rep). I think we get photos of her with men when the guy she’s dating is also comfortable being in public.

Women are not going to watch football ( for the football) solely because of Taylor Swift.

Well I agree with this on an ongoing/long term basis, but all over tik tok there are videos of Swifties kids and adults having watch parties yesterday. There were rumors for days she was going to be there.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't get all these comments like "she has enough fans" or "she has enough money." She wants even more! And why shouldn't she?

I agree with you, but still don't quite get what she gets out of this relationship (I am firmly in the "this is fake and orchestrated by PR camp) because while she of course wants more fans and more money, I'm not sure dating Kelce gets them for her? She's just way higher profile than he is. And I already know enough middle-America, football-loving guys who have bought Taylor Swift albums and tickets because their wives/girlfriends/daughters are obsessed with her. I don't think this moves the needle really.

My super-conspiracy theory is that there is some horse trading going on with publicists and other entities, where Taylor agrees to this fake relationship with Kelce to help boost his star, and then Taylor gets something tangible she wants, like a major licensing deal or something. Like maybe Kelce himself can't offer her much, but the people who are invested in his success might have something to offer her.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a fan of TS but I don't live under a rock. I know that this woman was the first to sell out a billion dollar show and has had the highest grossing tour in history. Armed with this knowledge alone, why on earth would anyone think that she needs more publicity? I think she's good.

And while Travis Kelce is likeable, he's not bringing any more press than she's already got. I mean, TS could date a Starbucks barista and get just as much press as she's getting now.

Many of her collabs appear geared toward getting her in front of new audiences. She is aiming for world domination here.

Just look at who she has collaborated with in music alone, and you'll see what demographics she is aiming for. The list is long. This is planned far in advance.

She will be smart not to get tied down in a relationship. Once you have to keep a relationship going, it's not as interesting to fans.

I don't know about that... fans still die hard for "Lover" and a Joe reunion.

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I’ll never understand why people put so much time and effort into analyzing her dating life. 11 pages because she showed up at a game.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know if it’s fake but it’s not serious.

I was kinda hoping she and Sophie would have a fling. I’m a bit bummed.

You are bummed two clearly heterosexual women don't want to have s&x with each other and instead have a supportive friendship? I don't understand people who seem to want her to be gay when she very clearly is not. And I have no problems with gay people but like, people can be heterosexual! At this point she has dated like 15 men sequentially and written song after song about her heartbreaks, stop trying to make gaylor happen and let her be!

I don’t think only gay people date those of the same sex. Sexuality can also be fluid.

You need to calm down.

Sexuality can be fluid, but sometimes it isn't. I just think its bizarre to be disappointed in her that she continually dates men. There is a ridiculously large population convinced she is married to Karlie Kloss in secret. It's just weird.

I will never understand why people invest their time in conspiracy theories about completely inconsequential people/things.

Not PP but: because it's fun and serves as an escape from annoying but consequential things like (1) our jobs, (2) paying bills, (3) dealing with annoying people in our lives.