
Beautiful! |
Israel is a democracy and one of the most diverse countries I have ever visited. |
I’m kind of surprised it took this long to drop the charade that the opposition to Sela is because “there just aren’t enough native Hebrew speakers to merit an immersion school.” I mean, probably a good number of (((us))) saw it immediately, but it took this long to nakedly show its too-familiar face. -NP |
The suspension issue is not a zero sum game. You can easily set up processes and algorithms to follow that would eliminate bias. In addition, many schools have overwhelming majority black/brown families with majority black/brown teachers who do support consequences for behaviors. The problem is not suspensions. The problem is there are no consequences whatsoever in DCPS for behavior issues. Their restorative justice policy is just talking points. There is not enough support or any successful implementation of it at all. Kids can do what they want and they know it. I would also add this is the same with high truancy rates. No consequences and kids get passed and socially promoted. Guess what these kids are doing when not enforced to go to school. Getting into trouble and you wonder why juvenile crime has increased dramatically in the city. |
No, Yu Ying is FUNDED in part by the Chinese government. Sela is a non-profit not funded by the Israeli government. My neighbor who is part Palestinian sends her kids there. Israel is a very diverse country with a messy coalition government system that has elected a right wing government just like most of Europe and the Middle East at this point, and the US, actually. Looking forward to your help in protesting at the Chinese Embassy next week. Bring a hat and a lot of ice water. |
Sela has a close relationship with the Israeli embassy and government. For example, just last month the Israeli Embassy hosted a reception for Sela parents and the next day Sela students attended a gala celebrating Israel's 75th anniversary in DC and sang the Israeli national anthem. |
Yu Ying is also a nonprofit with nearly all funds coming from DC taxpayers through the per pupil funding allocation for DC schools. Where are you seeing that Yu Ying is funded by the Chinese government? |
I think I can see what you're intimating, but is a Sela on the hook to defend Israel because its model is so closely tied to the country? And I'm not used to talking about Israel, but it's a painful subject, right? If you want to dispute the above, go ahead, I don't think your comments will be deleted by Jeff as they'd be topical. Israel's geopolitical situation is tough, probably more difficult to explain to others than why the U.S. could lurch from Obama to the next guy. I want to support Israel, but does that mean I have to support Netanyahu and his current crop of ministers? How their supporters act in areas semi-formally outside of Israel proper? Can a person say they support Israel, but only insofar as that means the guys protesting changes to the judiciary's role in the country? Or oppose the destruction of homes of terrorists without supporting terrorists who kill Israelis? If you have principles you apply to bad guys, you apply them to good guys too, right? I am sorry if trying to have these mixed views of the world feels personally harmful or directed at you. And if it's that hard for individuals to talk about - how should a school navigate the waters of language, culture, and politics here? |
I have no concerns or queries about why Sela exists, but I will admit that as someone who lives in the neighborhood I've wondered why Sela has such enthusiastic buy-in from entering PK3 parents who cannot support the language at home (I also did not lottery for Yu Ying for this reason), and I suspect most of it is just avoiding the perceived problems of DCPS schools. That said, this thread sure got ugly and should probably be locked. |
I'm a current Sela parent who commented many, many pages ago (but not since), and it has been quite the ride to read this thread. The thread spiraled to cover what makes a language useful, equity issues across DC schools, assumptions about how families make school choices, testing scores as related to at-risk student population, and now Israel! At least several of these conversations probably should have had threads of their own.
I think a few comments here offered real answers as to why families choose the school and why it was created, and there is not much more to say on an online forum. If you are genuinely curious about Sela, the school is at EdFest and does open houses throughout the year. |
As an Orthodox Jew who used to live in Israel, I’ll say the “Israel is a democracy” line was a lot more convincing in 1966 or even 1992. The current corruption scandals, attempts to hamstring the judiciary, and the embrace of openly anti-democratic fringe figures by Likud makes this line utterly unconvincing to anyone paying attention. |
After January 6th, the US is a democracy line is toast. |
The Republicans in Congress and those running for President would like a word. |
Immersion schools in DC are not about fluency. They are a nice hook and means to a self selecting population. As someone who speaks 4 languages and can fake 2 others I can assure you the only way to truly achieve fluency is to be immersed. |
Where were you posting from? Presumably not DC at that hour on Shabbat? I am myself a tradition-minded Israeli-American who is no fan of the current government in Israel and I agree in general, though I wouldn't have chosen the dates you listed. BUT, Israel is hardly the only country currently led by a regrettably right wing government or influenced by extremists. We've already discussed the hypocrisy of posters who are A-OK with a school that doesn't put China in scare quotes. If Marine Le Pen wins the next election, which doesn't seem too far fetched, I don't expect these posters to suddenly insist we close schools that teach about France in French, either. There's something else motivating this criticism of Sela. |