Why are UMC kids graduating 1 yr early from college?!?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Obviously people keep learning and doing fun things after college graduation. But in the FT work world, you only get two weeks of PTO a year. You don't have summers and all those long school breaks once you start a full time job. And being a student isn't a full time job in the sense that you don't spend 40 hours/week sitting in classes or labs. Most of it is spent on your own, and you can often select the times and days when you are in class. It really is a different phase of life that will never come again. There's no need to rush through your youth unless you're financially strapped. And most people have more to learn after their junior year of college. Practicing writing some more papers, preferably a honors thesis if you're all done with requirements for your major, or doing a double major are ways to improve your skills and make yourself more attractive to grad schools and employers.

As someone who hires college grads, I would look upon a degree earned in three years as inferior to one earned in four. I'd also wonder if you're socially inept or uncomfortable with your peers because why else would you skip your fun senior year?

You would have no way of knowing how old a job applicant is or how many years they went to college for, unless they told you. It’s possible to finish classes but choose which graduation you’re going to walk in & get your diploma at.

You sound insanely sheltered btw.

[Anonymous]

To save $85k. It is so expensive these days. I know many kids that finish undergrad early and often go into a grad program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:School just isn’t fun anymore. It’s not about exploration or making friends. From one year before they start tracking math in your neighborhood, it’s about executive function and taking all the right classes. And it never ends. You might as well stop spending money and start making money, because you’re not having fun anyway.

+1

There isn’t a lot of room for creative exploration in school any more, either at the college or HS level. It is all about the grade grind. That makes it boring and if you are going to grind you might as well get money for it.

Are the kids happier once they start working?

For sure!

I definitely was. First generation, so I needed to grind out good grades and it was much better when I was done with school. School was ‘fun enough’ but college is expensive and not fun enough to stay an extra year if not needed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To save $85k. It is so expensive these days. I know many kids that finish undergrad early and often go into a grad program.

Particularly pressing for donut hole families that get zero aid and require loans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Obviously people keep learning and doing fun things after college graduation. But in the FT work world, you only get two weeks of PTO a year. You don't have summers and all those long school breaks once you start a full time job. And being a student isn't a full time job in the sense that you don't spend 40 hours/week sitting in classes or labs. Most of it is spent on your own, and you can often select the times and days when you are in class. It really is a different phase of life that will never come again. There's no need to rush through your youth unless you're financially strapped. And most people have more to learn after their junior year of college. Practicing writing some more papers, preferably a honors thesis if you're all done with requirements for your major, or doing a double major are ways to improve your skills and make yourself more attractive to grad schools and employers.

As someone who hires college grads, I would look upon a degree earned in three years as inferior to one earned in four. I'd also wonder if you're socially inept or uncomfortable with your peers because why else would you skip your fun senior year?

Oh, that is the most ridiculous thing ever. Your loss, for sure, if you avoid hiring those kids.

I also hire and would much prefer someone who knows how to hustle and worked hard to get done in 3 years. I wouldn’t look down on someone who took the full 4 years, but I certainly don’t rule out kids who can finish in 3.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Obviously people keep learning and doing fun things after college graduation. But in the FT work world, you only get two weeks of PTO a year. You don't have summers and all those long school breaks once you start a full time job. And being a student isn't a full time job in the sense that you don't spend 40 hours/week sitting in classes or labs. Most of it is spent on your own, and you can often select the times and days when you are in class. It really is a different phase of life that will never come again. There's no need to rush through your youth unless you're financially strapped. And most people have more to learn after their junior year of college. Practicing writing some more papers, preferably a honors thesis if you're all done with requirements for your major, or doing a double major are ways to improve your skills and make yourself more attractive to grad schools and employers.

As someone who hires college grads, I would look upon a degree earned in three years as inferior to one earned in four. I'd also wonder if you're socially inept or uncomfortable with your peers because why else would you skip your fun senior year?

“Fun senior year” I genuinely have no idea what you’re talking about. You must’ve went to a trust fund kid LAC.

ALDC easy majors

[Anonymous]

Not everyone is planning to go to grad school at all, and if they are, it may not be for something that requires research experience while in college (such as applying to med school or PhD programs). Even that can be had post-graduation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seeing/hearing from neighbors, acquaintances & relatives that their 2024 kids are graduating next month instead. WHY? You’re only young once! It’s crazy to me. There’s no way this is a money thing. It’s so sad. And these kids probably stifled their professional prospects due to not having time to do multiple internships. Why such a rush to grow up?

Because it is %#$$ expensive. Not hard to understand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Obviously people keep learning and doing fun things after college graduation. But in the FT work world, you only get two weeks of PTO a year. You don't have summers and all those long school breaks once you start a full time job. And being a student isn't a full time job in the sense that you don't spend 40 hours/week sitting in classes or labs. Most of it is spent on your own, and you can often select the times and days when you are in class. It really is a different phase of life that will never come again. There's no need to rush through your youth unless you're financially strapped. And most people have more to learn after their junior year of college. Practicing writing some more papers, preferably a honors thesis if you're all done with requirements for your major, or doing a double major are ways to improve your skills and make yourself more attractive to grad schools and employers.

As someone who hires college grads, I would look upon a degree earned in three years as inferior to one earned in four. I'd also wonder if you're socially inept or uncomfortable with your peers because why else would you skip your fun senior year?

Maybe at the only jobs that fun, easy majors can get. My 23 y/o DD, who majored in computer science (and graduated a semester early!) has six weeks PTO and works mostly remotely.

She would definitely say she spent at least 40 hours/week doing homework, in class & at her on-campus job. Probably closer to 55.

I could see why you found the real world to be a shock.

[Anonymous]

OP kids at big state Us & schools like NYU, UMiami, USC, Northeastern etc have been living like adults since the beginning of their sophomore year. Many since before that, as they’ve had a lot of independence in their lives & visited their older friends who were in college while they were in high school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Obviously people keep learning and doing fun things after college graduation. But in the FT work world, you only get two weeks of PTO a year. You don't have summers and all those long school breaks once you start a full time job. And being a student isn't a full time job in the sense that you don't spend 40 hours/week sitting in classes or labs. Most of it is spent on your own, and you can often select the times and days when you are in class. It really is a different phase of life that will never come again. There's no need to rush through your youth unless you're financially strapped. And most people have more to learn after their junior year of college. Practicing writing some more papers, preferably a honors thesis if you're all done with requirements for your major, or doing a double major are ways to improve your skills and make yourself more attractive to grad schools and employers.

As someone who hires college grads, I would look upon a degree earned in three years as inferior to one earned in four. I'd also wonder if you're socially inept or uncomfortable with your peers because why else would you skip your fun senior year?

If you worked for my company I would be ***very*** concerned that you have so many biases. You have a rigid “this worked for me, therefore it should work for everyone else” attitude which is truly disgusting to see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Obviously people keep learning and doing fun things after college graduation. But in the FT work world, you only get two weeks of PTO a year. You don't have summers and all those long school breaks once you start a full time job. And being a student isn't a full time job in the sense that you don't spend 40 hours/week sitting in classes or labs. Most of it is spent on your own, and you can often select the times and days when you are in class. It really is a different phase of life that will never come again. There's no need to rush through your youth unless you're financially strapped. And most people have more to learn after their junior year of college. Practicing writing some more papers, preferably a honors thesis if you're all done with requirements for your major, or doing a double major are ways to improve your skills and make yourself more attractive to grad schools and employers.

As someone who hires college grads, I would look upon a degree earned in three years as inferior to one earned in four. I'd also wonder if you're socially inept or uncomfortable with your peers because why else would you skip your fun senior year?

Dumbest post of the day ^

[Anonymous]

Because I have a Sept. 2nd birthday (went to k-12 in a district with a 9/1 cutoff) & also took a gap year. Turned 20 my first week of freshman year. Was ready to move on by my “junior” year.

[Anonymous]

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OP kids at big state Us & schools like NYU, UMiami, USC, Northeastern etc have been living like adults since the beginning of their sophomore year."

They are earning their own money for living expenses, paying their own bills, and making/sticking to their own budget? Covering their own health insurance with their own money? Or do you just mean they can shag at any hour of the day they choose because they are far from home without supervision?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the impact the COVID had on this cohort in terms of on-campus experience and how virtual classes and lack of social community bonding experiences could have affected a person's emotional bond to the school and the community.

Add to this lack of (or dampening of) ties to the other more traditional reasons mentioned, enough credits to leave early (AP, summer, overloaded at home schedule), save $, general grind of school....

Plus the idea that this group is used to doing something different than had been done before...COVID mixed it up...there's no longer as strong of a message of "it's USUALLY done this way".

Yawn.

What an ass.

PP I agree. My kid went to a big midwestern U and covid made the college experience bad. The school was overwhelmed in so many ways that the normal services were disrupted and made it even harder. It is such a large school that everything from the buses to cafeterias to advisors were a disaster. So many students had problems getting food - any food - that local parents were offering to cook an drop off casseroles etc on the campus. My kid had enough credits to finish a year early, didn't plan on it, but the problems became so unpleasant kid thought it was better to get out.