De facto "as is"

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Anonymous wrote:I can't get over the furnace. LOL. Why not just ask for a brand new roof while you are at it.

Agree, and this is probably why the sellers came back as a hard no to all of OP’s requests. Anyone who expects something to be preemptively replaced just because it’s “old” loses their credibility and seems difficult to deal with. No one in their right mind is just going to buy you a new furnace (roof/appliances/etc.) just because you wish you were buying a house with a new one. That was a pretty egregious ask and frankly I’m shocked your realtor didn’t talk you out of asking for that. Also, sellers aren’t paying to bring older homes up to code. You should have known based on the age of the house that it would not be built to modern day code and that means it’s grandfathered in unless some sort of construction is done. Again, no one is bringing an old house up to modern day code because you wish that you were buying something up to the standards of new construction.

If you had gone in more reasonably, maybe you could have asked for the deck repair (since that is the type of hidden safety issue that an inspection is meant to catch).

You are the one who bait and switched the sellers by deciding you want to pay for an older home, but that you expect it to be like brand new.

This. I was on the other end of this kind of offer, and it was such a disappointment to think we had a solid offer and then have the buyer ask for tens of thousands of dollars in concessions for things were older but still working and in good condition. New roof, new heating system, etc. No way. Just because the inspector flags it doesn't mean it's appropriate to ask for it to be replaced. It's information for you to have as the homeowner.

Well, the reason your offer was so solid is because your buyer expected some concessions in the inspection process.

What ended up happening?

We agreed to one repair and said no to the rest. The buyer walked, but another came along within a week.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't get over the furnace. LOL. Why not just ask for a brand new roof while you are at it.

Agree, and this is probably why the sellers came back as a hard no to all of OP’s requests. Anyone who expects something to be preemptively replaced just because it’s “old” loses their credibility and seems difficult to deal with. No one in their right mind is just going to buy you a new furnace (roof/appliances/etc.) just because you wish you were buying a house with a new one. That was a pretty egregious ask and frankly I’m shocked your realtor didn’t talk you out of asking for that. Also, sellers aren’t paying to bring older homes up to code. You should have known based on the age of the house that it would not be built to modern day code and that means it’s grandfathered in unless some sort of construction is done. Again, no one is bringing an old house up to modern day code because you wish that you were buying something up to the standards of new construction.

If you had gone in more reasonably, maybe you could have asked for the deck repair (since that is the type of hidden safety issue that an inspection is meant to catch).

You are the one who bait and switched the sellers by deciding you want to pay for an older home, but that you expect it to be like brand new.

This. I was on the other end of this kind of offer, and it was such a disappointment to think we had a solid offer and then have the buyer ask for tens of thousands of dollars in concessions for things were older but still working and in good condition. New roof, new heating system, etc. No way. Just because the inspector flags it doesn't mean it's appropriate to ask for it to be replaced. It's information for you to have as the homeowner.

Well, the reason your offer was so solid is because your buyer expected some concessions in the inspection process.

What ended up happening?

We agreed to one repair and said no to the rest. The buyer walked, but another came along within a week.

If they agreed to SOMETHING, it would be a starting point.
They said "0".

I wonder if they just want out of the contract.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My FIL had same issue he put in wood burning stove. He just went to Home Depot they sell exterior metal chimneys. He ran chimney up exterior of house and connected it to wood burning stove. Did it himself one day.

They all sell those as inserts you put down existing chimney. Maybe hang out Home Depot make friends a real man who can help you out.

Interesting. Thanks!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't get over the furnace. LOL. Why not just ask for a brand new roof while you are at it.

Agree, and this is probably why the sellers came back as a hard no to all of OP’s requests. Anyone who expects something to be preemptively replaced just because it’s “old” loses their credibility and seems difficult to deal with. No one in their right mind is just going to buy you a new furnace (roof/appliances/etc.) just because you wish you were buying a house with a new one. That was a pretty egregious ask and frankly I’m shocked your realtor didn’t talk you out of asking for that. Also, sellers aren’t paying to bring older homes up to code. You should have known based on the age of the house that it would not be built to modern day code and that means it’s grandfathered in unless some sort of construction is done. Again, no one is bringing an old house up to modern day code because you wish that you were buying something up to the standards of new construction.

If you had gone in more reasonably, maybe you could have asked for the deck repair (since that is the type of hidden safety issue that an inspection is meant to catch).

You are the one who bait and switched the sellers by deciding you want to pay for an older home, but that you expect it to be like brand new.

This. I was on the other end of this kind of offer, and it was such a disappointment to think we had a solid offer and then have the buyer ask for tens of thousands of dollars in concessions for things were older but still working and in good condition. New roof, new heating system, etc. No way. Just because the inspector flags it doesn't mean it's appropriate to ask for it to be replaced. It's information for you to have as the homeowner.

Well, the reason your offer was so solid is because your buyer expected some concessions in the inspection process.

What ended up happening?

We agreed to one repair and said no to the rest. The buyer walked, but another came along within a week.

If they agreed to SOMETHING, it would be a starting point.
They said "0".

I wonder if they just want out of the contract.

Maybe. But our feeling was that the buyer was unreasonable and would be difficult the rest of the way. In addition to wanting replacements of aging systems, they wanted us to fix things like water that dripped from the tub faucet while the shower was running. Basically everything the inspector noted was dumped in there. You just can't expect that in a house that isn't new. "As is" means the seller won't even fix things that are broken. But it's not "as is" if it's just less-than-perfect or less-than-new. Is there anything to stop you from coming back with a more reasonable list of fixes--just the things that are not working or unsafe?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't get over the furnace. LOL. Why not just ask for a brand new roof while you are at it.

Agree, and this is probably why the sellers came back as a hard no to all of OP’s requests. Anyone who expects something to be preemptively replaced just because it’s “old” loses their credibility and seems difficult to deal with. No one in their right mind is just going to buy you a new furnace (roof/appliances/etc.) just because you wish you were buying a house with a new one. That was a pretty egregious ask and frankly I’m shocked your realtor didn’t talk you out of asking for that. Also, sellers aren’t paying to bring older homes up to code. You should have known based on the age of the house that it would not be built to modern day code and that means it’s grandfathered in unless some sort of construction is done. Again, no one is bringing an old house up to modern day code because you wish that you were buying something up to the standards of new construction.

If you had gone in more reasonably, maybe you could have asked for the deck repair (since that is the type of hidden safety issue that an inspection is meant to catch).

You are the one who bait and switched the sellers by deciding you want to pay for an older home, but that you expect it to be like brand new.

This. I was on the other end of this kind of offer, and it was such a disappointment to think we had a solid offer and then have the buyer ask for tens of thousands of dollars in concessions for things were older but still working and in good condition. New roof, new heating system, etc. No way. Just because the inspector flags it doesn't mean it's appropriate to ask for it to be replaced. It's information for you to have as the homeowner.

Well, the reason your offer was so solid is because your buyer expected some concessions in the inspection process.

What ended up happening?

We agreed to one repair and said no to the rest. The buyer walked, but another came along within a week.

If they agreed to SOMETHING, it would be a starting point.
They said "0".

I wonder if they just want out of the contract.

Maybe. But our feeling was that the buyer was unreasonable and would be difficult the rest of the way. In addition to wanting replacements of aging systems, they wanted us to fix things like water that dripped from the tub faucet while the shower was running. Basically everything the inspector noted was dumped in there. You just can't expect that in a house that isn't new. "As is" means the seller won't even fix things that are broken. But it's not "as is" if it's just less-than-perfect or less-than-new. Is there anything to stop you from coming back with a more reasonable list of fixes--just the things that are not working or unsafe?

We could, but the agent said they will not be fixing anything or giving any money. During the initial negotiation they said they had money set up for inspection contingency.

I mean, it is normal for real estate agents to lie. So tired of this story.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't get over the furnace. LOL. Why not just ask for a brand new roof while you are at it.

Agree, and this is probably why the sellers came back as a hard no to all of OP’s requests. Anyone who expects something to be preemptively replaced just because it’s “old” loses their credibility and seems difficult to deal with. No one in their right mind is just going to buy you a new furnace (roof/appliances/etc.) just because you wish you were buying a house with a new one. That was a pretty egregious ask and frankly I’m shocked your realtor didn’t talk you out of asking for that. Also, sellers aren’t paying to bring older homes up to code. You should have known based on the age of the house that it would not be built to modern day code and that means it’s grandfathered in unless some sort of construction is done. Again, no one is bringing an old house up to modern day code because you wish that you were buying something up to the standards of new construction.

If you had gone in more reasonably, maybe you could have asked for the deck repair (since that is the type of hidden safety issue that an inspection is meant to catch).

You are the one who bait and switched the sellers by deciding you want to pay for an older home, but that you expect it to be like brand new.

This. I was on the other end of this kind of offer, and it was such a disappointment to think we had a solid offer and then have the buyer ask for tens of thousands of dollars in concessions for things were older but still working and in good condition. New roof, new heating system, etc. No way. Just because the inspector flags it doesn't mean it's appropriate to ask for it to be replaced. It's information for you to have as the homeowner.

Well, the reason your offer was so solid is because your buyer expected some concessions in the inspection process.

What ended up happening?

We agreed to one repair and said no to the rest. The buyer walked, but another came along within a week.

If they agreed to SOMETHING, it would be a starting point.
They said "0".

I wonder if they just want out of the contract.

They probably do want out because they can sense you're going to be unreasonable about all of the remaining steps of the process. That seems pretty clear based on this thread.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't get over the furnace. LOL. Why not just ask for a brand new roof while you are at it.

Agree, and this is probably why the sellers came back as a hard no to all of OP’s requests. Anyone who expects something to be preemptively replaced just because it’s “old” loses their credibility and seems difficult to deal with. No one in their right mind is just going to buy you a new furnace (roof/appliances/etc.) just because you wish you were buying a house with a new one. That was a pretty egregious ask and frankly I’m shocked your realtor didn’t talk you out of asking for that. Also, sellers aren’t paying to bring older homes up to code. You should have known based on the age of the house that it would not be built to modern day code and that means it’s grandfathered in unless some sort of construction is done. Again, no one is bringing an old house up to modern day code because you wish that you were buying something up to the standards of new construction.

If you had gone in more reasonably, maybe you could have asked for the deck repair (since that is the type of hidden safety issue that an inspection is meant to catch).

You are the one who bait and switched the sellers by deciding you want to pay for an older home, but that you expect it to be like brand new.

This. I was on the other end of this kind of offer, and it was such a disappointment to think we had a solid offer and then have the buyer ask for tens of thousands of dollars in concessions for things were older but still working and in good condition. New roof, new heating system, etc. No way. Just because the inspector flags it doesn't mean it's appropriate to ask for it to be replaced. It's information for you to have as the homeowner.

Well, the reason your offer was so solid is because your buyer expected some concessions in the inspection process.

What ended up happening?

We agreed to one repair and said no to the rest. The buyer walked, but another came along within a week.

If they agreed to SOMETHING, it would be a starting point.
They said "0".

I wonder if they just want out of the contract.

They probably do want out because they can sense you're going to be unreasonable about all of the remaining steps of the process. That seems pretty clear based on this thread.

What other steps? There are no other steps.

We fix stuff and close. Done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't get over the furnace. LOL. Why not just ask for a brand new roof while you are at it.

Agree, and this is probably why the sellers came back as a hard no to all of OP’s requests. Anyone who expects something to be preemptively replaced just because it’s “old” loses their credibility and seems difficult to deal with. No one in their right mind is just going to buy you a new furnace (roof/appliances/etc.) just because you wish you were buying a house with a new one. That was a pretty egregious ask and frankly I’m shocked your realtor didn’t talk you out of asking for that. Also, sellers aren’t paying to bring older homes up to code. You should have known based on the age of the house that it would not be built to modern day code and that means it’s grandfathered in unless some sort of construction is done. Again, no one is bringing an old house up to modern day code because you wish that you were buying something up to the standards of new construction.

If you had gone in more reasonably, maybe you could have asked for the deck repair (since that is the type of hidden safety issue that an inspection is meant to catch).

You are the one who bait and switched the sellers by deciding you want to pay for an older home, but that you expect it to be like brand new.

This. I was on the other end of this kind of offer, and it was such a disappointment to think we had a solid offer and then have the buyer ask for tens of thousands of dollars in concessions for things were older but still working and in good condition. New roof, new heating system, etc. No way. Just because the inspector flags it doesn't mean it's appropriate to ask for it to be replaced. It's information for you to have as the homeowner.

Well, the reason your offer was so solid is because your buyer expected some concessions in the inspection process.

What ended up happening?

DP here. The pp's buyers had no right to expect any concessions based on the inspection. Neither does OP. Difficult people like OP see a home that needs work and they want to pay the price of an older home but they want the sellers to give them money back to make it like a renovated home. As we see from this thread, OP is irrational and plays victim when she doesn't get something for nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't get over the furnace. LOL. Why not just ask for a brand new roof while you are at it.

Agree, and this is probably why the sellers came back as a hard no to all of OP’s requests. Anyone who expects something to be preemptively replaced just because it’s “old” loses their credibility and seems difficult to deal with. No one in their right mind is just going to buy you a new furnace (roof/appliances/etc.) just because you wish you were buying a house with a new one. That was a pretty egregious ask and frankly I’m shocked your realtor didn’t talk you out of asking for that. Also, sellers aren’t paying to bring older homes up to code. You should have known based on the age of the house that it would not be built to modern day code and that means it’s grandfathered in unless some sort of construction is done. Again, no one is bringing an old house up to modern day code because you wish that you were buying something up to the standards of new construction.

If you had gone in more reasonably, maybe you could have asked for the deck repair (since that is the type of hidden safety issue that an inspection is meant to catch).

You are the one who bait and switched the sellers by deciding you want to pay for an older home, but that you expect it to be like brand new.

This. I was on the other end of this kind of offer, and it was such a disappointment to think we had a solid offer and then have the buyer ask for tens of thousands of dollars in concessions for things were older but still working and in good condition. New roof, new heating system, etc. No way. Just because the inspector flags it doesn't mean it's appropriate to ask for it to be replaced. It's information for you to have as the homeowner.

Well, the reason your offer was so solid is because your buyer expected some concessions in the inspection process.

What ended up happening?

We agreed to one repair and said no to the rest. The buyer walked, but another came along within a week.

If they agreed to SOMETHING, it would be a starting point.
They said "0".

I wonder if they just want out of the contract.

Maybe. But our feeling was that the buyer was unreasonable and would be difficult the rest of the way. In addition to wanting replacements of aging systems, they wanted us to fix things like water that dripped from the tub faucet while the shower was running. Basically everything the inspector noted was dumped in there. You just can't expect that in a house that isn't new. "As is" means the seller won't even fix things that are broken. But it's not "as is" if it's just less-than-perfect or less-than-new. Is there anything to stop you from coming back with a more reasonable list of fixes--just the things that are not working or unsafe?

Aging appliances that work are one thing but the drip should be fixed. That's not expensive to replace the cartridges (some manufactures cover it under warranty for parts) or a new spout.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't get over the furnace. LOL. Why not just ask for a brand new roof while you are at it.

Agree, and this is probably why the sellers came back as a hard no to all of OP’s requests. Anyone who expects something to be preemptively replaced just because it’s “old” loses their credibility and seems difficult to deal with. No one in their right mind is just going to buy you a new furnace (roof/appliances/etc.) just because you wish you were buying a house with a new one. That was a pretty egregious ask and frankly I’m shocked your realtor didn’t talk you out of asking for that. Also, sellers aren’t paying to bring older homes up to code. You should have known based on the age of the house that it would not be built to modern day code and that means it’s grandfathered in unless some sort of construction is done. Again, no one is bringing an old house up to modern day code because you wish that you were buying something up to the standards of new construction.

If you had gone in more reasonably, maybe you could have asked for the deck repair (since that is the type of hidden safety issue that an inspection is meant to catch).

You are the one who bait and switched the sellers by deciding you want to pay for an older home, but that you expect it to be like brand new.

This. I was on the other end of this kind of offer, and it was such a disappointment to think we had a solid offer and then have the buyer ask for tens of thousands of dollars in concessions for things were older but still working and in good condition. New roof, new heating system, etc. No way. Just because the inspector flags it doesn't mean it's appropriate to ask for it to be replaced. It's information for you to have as the homeowner.

Well, the reason your offer was so solid is because your buyer expected some concessions in the inspection process.

What ended up happening?

We agreed to one repair and said no to the rest. The buyer walked, but another came along within a week.

If they agreed to SOMETHING, it would be a starting point.
They said "0".

I wonder if they just want out of the contract.

Maybe. But our feeling was that the buyer was unreasonable and would be difficult the rest of the way. In addition to wanting replacements of aging systems, they wanted us to fix things like water that dripped from the tub faucet while the shower was running. Basically everything the inspector noted was dumped in there. You just can't expect that in a house that isn't new. "As is" means the seller won't even fix things that are broken. But it's not "as is" if it's just less-than-perfect or less-than-new. Is there anything to stop you from coming back with a more reasonable list of fixes--just the things that are not working or unsafe?

We could, but the agent said they will not be fixing anything or giving any money. During the initial negotiation they said they had money set up for inspection contingency.

I mean, it is normal for real estate agents to lie. So tired of this story.

OP, they should be fixing anything unsafe but it depends on the contract. If you purchased it as-is, your inspection is for information only. That is what we do. They would have let us out as it was an estate sale and they had a builder lined up if we changed our mind. So, get a chimney expert in to see what they say. And, maybe some of the unsafe wiring but it needs to be unsafe, not old.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't get over the furnace. LOL. Why not just ask for a brand new roof while you are at it.

Agree, and this is probably why the sellers came back as a hard no to all of OP’s requests. Anyone who expects something to be preemptively replaced just because it’s “old” loses their credibility and seems difficult to deal with. No one in their right mind is just going to buy you a new furnace (roof/appliances/etc.) just because you wish you were buying a house with a new one. That was a pretty egregious ask and frankly I’m shocked your realtor didn’t talk you out of asking for that. Also, sellers aren’t paying to bring older homes up to code. You should have known based on the age of the house that it would not be built to modern day code and that means it’s grandfathered in unless some sort of construction is done. Again, no one is bringing an old house up to modern day code because you wish that you were buying something up to the standards of new construction.

If you had gone in more reasonably, maybe you could have asked for the deck repair (since that is the type of hidden safety issue that an inspection is meant to catch).

You are the one who bait and switched the sellers by deciding you want to pay for an older home, but that you expect it to be like brand new.

This. I was on the other end of this kind of offer, and it was such a disappointment to think we had a solid offer and then have the buyer ask for tens of thousands of dollars in concessions for things were older but still working and in good condition. New roof, new heating system, etc. No way. Just because the inspector flags it doesn't mean it's appropriate to ask for it to be replaced. It's information for you to have as the homeowner.

Well, the reason your offer was so solid is because your buyer expected some concessions in the inspection process.

What ended up happening?

DP here. The pp's buyers had no right to expect any concessions based on the inspection. Neither does OP. Difficult people like OP see a home that needs work and they want to pay the price of an older home but they want the sellers to give them money back to make it like a renovated home. As we see from this thread, OP is irrational and plays victim when she doesn't get something for nothing.

Nah, it is just a bit more of a seller's market than expected. They would never get away with it in December, but now they are trying to.

We are about to sell a 🏠. It only stands to reason to do the same thing. That is where that money will come back from. What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

It would never occur to me to be such as a###ole until this sale. It never even crossed my mind that this was an option. Well, now we all know .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't get over the furnace. LOL. Why not just ask for a brand new roof while you are at it.

Agree, and this is probably why the sellers came back as a hard no to all of OP’s requests. Anyone who expects something to be preemptively replaced just because it’s “old” loses their credibility and seems difficult to deal with. No one in their right mind is just going to buy you a new furnace (roof/appliances/etc.) just because you wish you were buying a house with a new one. That was a pretty egregious ask and frankly I’m shocked your realtor didn’t talk you out of asking for that. Also, sellers aren’t paying to bring older homes up to code. You should have known based on the age of the house that it would not be built to modern day code and that means it’s grandfathered in unless some sort of construction is done. Again, no one is bringing an old house up to modern day code because you wish that you were buying something up to the standards of new construction.

If you had gone in more reasonably, maybe you could have asked for the deck repair (since that is the type of hidden safety issue that an inspection is meant to catch).

You are the one who bait and switched the sellers by deciding you want to pay for an older home, but that you expect it to be like brand new.

This. I was on the other end of this kind of offer, and it was such a disappointment to think we had a solid offer and then have the buyer ask for tens of thousands of dollars in concessions for things were older but still working and in good condition. New roof, new heating system, etc. No way. Just because the inspector flags it doesn't mean it's appropriate to ask for it to be replaced. It's information for you to have as the homeowner.

Well, the reason your offer was so solid is because your buyer expected some concessions in the inspection process.

What ended up happening?

We agreed to one repair and said no to the rest. The buyer walked, but another came along within a week.

Exactly. Another buyer ain’t coming for this one i this market so soon. The seller is irrational

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't get over the furnace. LOL. Why not just ask for a brand new roof while you are at it.

Agree, and this is probably why the sellers came back as a hard no to all of OP’s requests. Anyone who expects something to be preemptively replaced just because it’s “old” loses their credibility and seems difficult to deal with. No one in their right mind is just going to buy you a new furnace (roof/appliances/etc.) just because you wish you were buying a house with a new one. That was a pretty egregious ask and frankly I’m shocked your realtor didn’t talk you out of asking for that. Also, sellers aren’t paying to bring older homes up to code. You should have known based on the age of the house that it would not be built to modern day code and that means it’s grandfathered in unless some sort of construction is done. Again, no one is bringing an old house up to modern day code because you wish that you were buying something up to the standards of new construction.

If you had gone in more reasonably, maybe you could have asked for the deck repair (since that is the type of hidden safety issue that an inspection is meant to catch).

You are the one who bait and switched the sellers by deciding you want to pay for an older home, but that you expect it to be like brand new.

This. I was on the other end of this kind of offer, and it was such a disappointment to think we had a solid offer and then have the buyer ask for tens of thousands of dollars in concessions for things were older but still working and in good condition. New roof, new heating system, etc. No way. Just because the inspector flags it doesn't mean it's appropriate to ask for it to be replaced. It's information for you to have as the homeowner.

Well, the reason your offer was so solid is because your buyer expected some concessions in the inspection process.

What ended up happening?

We agreed to one repair and said no to the rest. The buyer walked, but another came along within a week.

If they agreed to SOMETHING, it would be a starting point.
They said "0".

I wonder if they just want out of the contract.

Maybe. But our feeling was that the buyer was unreasonable and would be difficult the rest of the way. In addition to wanting replacements of aging systems, they wanted us to fix things like water that dripped from the tub faucet while the shower was running. Basically everything the inspector noted was dumped in there. You just can't expect that in a house that isn't new. "As is" means the seller won't even fix things that are broken. But it's not "as is" if it's just less-than-perfect or less-than-new. Is there anything to stop you from coming back with a more reasonable list of fixes--just the things that are not working or unsafe?

We could, but the agent said they will not be fixing anything or giving any money. During the initial negotiation they said they had money set up for inspection contingency.

I mean, it is normal for real estate agents to lie. So tired of this story.

OP, they should be fixing anything unsafe but it depends on the contract. If you purchased it as-is, your inspection is for information only. That is what we do. They would have let us out as it was an estate sale and they had a builder lined up if we changed our mind. So, get a chimney expert in to see what they say. And, maybe some of the unsafe wiring but it needs to be unsafe, not old.

Yea they should be, but they plain refused.

But everyone explained to me here that they have no moral or ethical obligation to fix anything because the only thing the inspection contingent gives me is the right to walk away.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't get over the furnace. LOL. Why not just ask for a brand new roof while you are at it.

Agree, and this is probably why the sellers came back as a hard no to all of OP’s requests. Anyone who expects something to be preemptively replaced just because it’s “old” loses their credibility and seems difficult to deal with. No one in their right mind is just going to buy you a new furnace (roof/appliances/etc.) just because you wish you were buying a house with a new one. That was a pretty egregious ask and frankly I’m shocked your realtor didn’t talk you out of asking for that. Also, sellers aren’t paying to bring older homes up to code. You should have known based on the age of the house that it would not be built to modern day code and that means it’s grandfathered in unless some sort of construction is done. Again, no one is bringing an old house up to modern day code because you wish that you were buying something up to the standards of new construction.

If you had gone in more reasonably, maybe you could have asked for the deck repair (since that is the type of hidden safety issue that an inspection is meant to catch).

You are the one who bait and switched the sellers by deciding you want to pay for an older home, but that you expect it to be like brand new.

This. I was on the other end of this kind of offer, and it was such a disappointment to think we had a solid offer and then have the buyer ask for tens of thousands of dollars in concessions for things were older but still working and in good condition. New roof, new heating system, etc. No way. Just because the inspector flags it doesn't mean it's appropriate to ask for it to be replaced. It's information for you to have as the homeowner.

Well, the reason your offer was so solid is because your buyer expected some concessions in the inspection process.

What ended up happening?

We agreed to one repair and said no to the rest. The buyer walked, but another came along within a week.

If they agreed to SOMETHING, it would be a starting point.
They said "0".

I wonder if they just want out of the contract.

Maybe. But our feeling was that the buyer was unreasonable and would be difficult the rest of the way. In addition to wanting replacements of aging systems, they wanted us to fix things like water that dripped from the tub faucet while the shower was running. Basically everything the inspector noted was dumped in there. You just can't expect that in a house that isn't new. "As is" means the seller won't even fix things that are broken. But it's not "as is" if it's just less-than-perfect or less-than-new. Is there anything to stop you from coming back with a more reasonable list of fixes--just the things that are not working or unsafe?

We could, but the agent said they will not be fixing anything or giving any money. During the initial negotiation they said they had money set up for inspection contingency.

I mean, it is normal for real estate agents to lie. So tired of this story.

OP, they should be fixing anything unsafe but it depends on the contract. If you purchased it as-is, your inspection is for information only. That is what we do. They would have let us out as it was an estate sale and they had a builder lined up if we changed our mind. So, get a chimney expert in to see what they say. And, maybe some of the unsafe wiring but it needs to be unsafe, not old.

Yea they should be, but they plain refused.

But everyone explained to me here that they have no moral or ethical obligation to fix anything because the only thing the inspection contingent gives me is the right to walk away.

Yes! Exactly!

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Why is this thread still going? OP, you’re walking right? There was no bait and switch. Your demands were unreasonable. As someone else wrote, you sound very much like a first-time home buyer. You seem bitter and angry and there’s no reason for it. It’s not personal. Move on to the next prospective home and adjust your attitude.