Gwen definitely had a neck/jaw lift tho. Twice. |
I’m kind of wondering if the lifts don’t work as well (?) if you’ve had a bunch of fillers? I wonder if they’d have to let their fillers dissolve first so that there’s actually loose skin to pull back, and they aren’t willing to do that so they just get more and more injections until they hit the tipping point where it looks weird. And some of the selling point of fillers is that the healing period is very minimal vs. a full facelift which takes weeks to fully heal from so people don’t have to lay low at home. |
I disagree. She's just veiny. My hands look like this at 35. Her face, OTOH, is freakish. She needs to let go a little. She looked amazing up until 10-15 years ago. Then she became weird. |
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I have gotten botox since my late 30s and am now (mid 40s) starting to ponder what else in the medspa toolbox might apply to me. Microneedling? Something in the under eye region? What about my neck!?!? But then I look around at the women in the waiting room in their 50s and I wonder - what's the end game? It doesn't look natural. And frankly if I'm honest with myself, the botox doesn't look natural, either. I should have wrinkles on my forehead at this point! One of my most beautiful friends has just passed the tipping point from "how is she 40?!?!" to "she's starting to look weird" and I want to shake her. But it's her choice and I guess if she feels good that's what matters.
We're watching Bad Sisters and I'm struck by the natural teeth, natural aging, etc. and how we just don't allow that of our American celebrities. I find it easier to become absorbed in the characters and story when I'm not distracted by a glass forehead and veneered teeth in a period drama. |
The Bad Sisters sisters really are models for how adults can look. I'm sure they've dyed their hair - and I looked up some of their wardrobe, and it's all super $$. So at least handicap for that. But I really agree that they look much better than the over-fillered, over-botoxed look that American celebrities seem to default to. |
You seem self aware. I’m in my early 40s and I’ve done nothing beyond skincare. I have horizontal lines on my forehead but those showed up in my 20s. It’s not that I don’t care, it’s that I agree with your assessment that it never looks very natural and it never looks very good, so what’s the point spending thousands on it? |
| They are Frankensteining together “youthful” features, and it just starts to look ghastly. |
Spot on. |
She always had really low self-esteem and has talked extensively about that. She was a chubby kid/teen and uncomfortable with her looks as teen. Then, being on a worldwide stage when her career first took off I think prompted her to do this stuff. She also said she always kept her make-up on, that bright red lipstick too. She was a beautiful girl before work. She still looks good, but yes getting very dangerously close to falling off the cliff like Madonna and Melanie Griffith, etc. |
It works really well right up until it doesn't |
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Women are conditioned to be insecure about looks and aging. It doesn't matter if they are wealthy, famous or beautiful. Everyone does desperate things, ones with more resources do more. Some improve, most doesn't.
I don't get why feminism isn't focusing on helping women embrace and live their natural selves. |
I think it uses to be but then the old school feminists were overtaken by more lipstick feminists who told the old school feminists they were no fun and too butch and not embracing female empowerment through sexuality. It does make me sad to see the two poles — the older women with their injected deformed faces and the teen girls with dresses so short they can’t dance or sit down at homecoming. (My own kid was like no way am I wearing that and decided not to go.). Michelle wolf had a funny bit in one of her stand up specials—I won’t get it right but it was basically questioning why things like “free the nipple” were viewed as feminist priorities, and wondering whether some guys had infiltrated the feminist meetings and started a whisper campaign in support of nipples on social media. |
| Every woman on Fox News has the same weird nose. They all look like aliens. It’s terrifying. I’m 55. I choose to embrace the aging process fully. I take care of myself. I’m in fantastic shape. My hair is probably 60% gray and I love it! I don’t look 45. I look like a woman in her 50s. And I’m really, really ok with that. No way would I ever do Botox or fillers or plastic surgery. It never, ever, ever looks good. My mother-in-law gets a “tiny bit” of Botox. She looks perpetually surprised. And it’s weird that her forehead doesn’t move. I love her to death, but damn….why? |
Because she like it. I get botox, highlights, color my hair, eyelash tint & lift, I wear bikinis at the pool because I like it. SF is my idea of a beautiful woman over 50 and she had a lot of work done and looks amazing.
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She is baby stepping her way toward ghastly. |