Teacher Resident - no teaching qualifications required?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-public-schools-teacher-residency-program-staffing-shortages-fcps-virginia-lerning-education

This article doesn't make sense. If she taught in Louisiana and DC, she should of had no trouble getting a provisional license.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-public-schools-teacher-residency-program-staffing-shortages-fcps-virginia-lerning-education

This article doesn't make sense. If she taught in Louisiana and DC, she should of had no trouble getting a provisional license.

She may have taught at private schools or charters that didn't require a license. Either way, this woman will probably be fine because she's at least been in a classroom before. I am curious how many of the people coming on under this program have had no classroom experience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-public-schools-teacher-residency-program-staffing-shortages-fcps-virginia-lerning-education

This article doesn't make sense. If she taught in Louisiana and DC, she should of had no trouble getting a provisional license.

She may have taught at private schools or charters that didn't require a license. Either way, this woman will probably be fine because she's at least been in a classroom before. I am curious how many of the people coming on under this program have had no classroom experience.

Same- I want to see data on how many have never stepped foot in any kind of classroom before. The examples they used in their marketing seemed mighty niche/rosey. I also look forward to seeing how many of them make it a full year.

[Anonymous]

Just wait until Gov Fleecevest goes full Desantis and starts staffing public schools with The Troops.

[Anonymous]

I'm curious how this will all pan out. I work at a school (specialist position though). Not having taken the praxis is a non issue for me. Not having any classroom based experience is an issue. It may be a huge drain on teachers who are already established who are expected to "mentor" and pick up the slack for the incoming teachers. I am sure there will be a lot of people coming for a teaching position who are in for the benefits and "easy" work schedule and of course summers off. I hope there isn't churn and burn when the incoming residents realize the reality of the situation. But I guess they will serve their purpose - warm bodies and babysitters.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://wjla.com/news/local/fairfax-county-public-schools-teacher-residency-program-staffing-shortages-fcps-virginia-lerning-education

This article doesn't make sense. If she taught in Louisiana and DC, she should of had no trouble getting a provisional license.

She may have taught at private schools or charters that didn't require a license. Either way, this woman will probably be fine because she's at least been in a classroom before. I am curious how many of the people coming on under this program have had no classroom experience.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And I meant it made sense for high school because they can skip the education degree part.

The resident teacher role only allows you to skip licensing requirements for the first year (And licensed high school teachers typically get a BA/BS in their subject area and either do a post-bac education courses or master's in education in VA to be fully licensed). The thing that is new is this resident teacher position just requires a 4 year degree and doesn't require passing the praxis--not even for the subject areas they are going to teach. It's problematic because it's not like you're going to be told your child's teacher is a "resident teacher" so people are going to be very confused when teachers don't have content knowledge. If your teacher is a long term sub you kind of know they may or may not have deep content knowledge and adjust accordingly.

I'm all for the resident teacher position given that there's a teacher shortage, I just think the praxis should be the bar to pass. It's a 1-4 hour test depending on subject area and there are on-line resources to study for it. It shouldn't be a problem for anyone who is capable of teaching the subject (though it's not an easy test, these are people who did get a college degree). Otherwise people are going to waste a lot of energy of mentoring, supporting a person who is not capable of passing the test. (There are people who enroll in graduate education programs who can't pass the praxis after many tries and have to go teach in Catholic/private schools that don't require it or switch out of the field).

Isn't there a curriculum, and all the teachers have to teach the same thing out of the same text or work books?

lolololololololol

*breathe*

lolololololololol

Okay, sorry.

I have taught 14 years and never had a workbook or a textbook to use for any of the courses I taught (middle/high school). Every single paper your kid gets is made from scratch by me, purchased by me online, or made in collaboration with my team.

This is such a common misconception though--I think it's why people think teaching is acceptably paid, why anyone can do it, why teachers are idiots when there are mistakes on papers. The general public thinks we are reading scripts, when in reality teachers are literally creating an 8 hour meeting agenda and all associated handouts every. single. day.

So a PP is saying that my child’s resident teacher hasn’t even passed the exam required to be a teacher? Like they could have a four year degree from the university of phoenix in something like sociology and be considered a fifth grade teacher??? And then you’re saying there’s no curriculum for them to follow? It’s just going to be a free for all?? WTF????

This will upset you even more when you realize the are certified teachers with degrees from U of Phoenix. I work with a lot of morons with traditional credentials. This will hurt education even more.

[Anonymous]

Lol, do you really think you are going to see the data and metrics?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And I meant it made sense for high school because they can skip the education degree part.

The resident teacher role only allows you to skip licensing requirements for the first year (And licensed high school teachers typically get a BA/BS in their subject area and either do a post-bac education courses or master's in education in VA to be fully licensed). The thing that is new is this resident teacher position just requires a 4 year degree and doesn't require passing the praxis--not even for the subject areas they are going to teach. It's problematic because it's not like you're going to be told your child's teacher is a "resident teacher" so people are going to be very confused when teachers don't have content knowledge. If your teacher is a long term sub you kind of know they may or may not have deep content knowledge and adjust accordingly.

I'm all for the resident teacher position given that there's a teacher shortage, I just think the praxis should be the bar to pass. It's a 1-4 hour test depending on subject area and there are on-line resources to study for it. It shouldn't be a problem for anyone who is capable of teaching the subject (though it's not an easy test, these are people who did get a college degree). Otherwise people are going to waste a lot of energy of mentoring, supporting a person who is not capable of passing the test. (There are people who enroll in graduate education programs who can't pass the praxis after many tries and have to go teach in Catholic/private schools that don't require it or switch out of the field).

Isn't there a curriculum, and all the teachers have to teach the same thing out of the same text or work books?

lolololololololol

*breathe*

lolololololololol

Okay, sorry.

I have taught 14 years and never had a workbook or a textbook to use for any of the courses I taught (middle/high school). Every single paper your kid gets is made from scratch by me, purchased by me online, or made in collaboration with my team.

This is such a common misconception though--I think it's why people think teaching is acceptably paid, why anyone can do it, why teachers are idiots when there are mistakes on papers. The general public thinks we are reading scripts, when in reality teachers are literally creating an 8 hour meeting agenda and all associated handouts every. single. day.

So a PP is saying that my child’s resident teacher hasn’t even passed the exam required to be a teacher? Like they could have a four year degree from the university of phoenix in something like sociology and be considered a fifth grade teacher??? And then you’re saying there’s no curriculum for them to follow? It’s just going to be a free for all?? WTF????

This will upset you even more when you realize the are certified teachers with degrees from U of Phoenix. I work with a lot of morons with traditional credentials. This will hurt education even more.

I don’t know why people think teaching is different than other industries. I’ve worked in offices where employees ranged from genius to utter idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And I meant it made sense for high school because they can skip the education degree part.

The resident teacher role only allows you to skip licensing requirements for the first year (And licensed high school teachers typically get a BA/BS in their subject area and either do a post-bac education courses or master's in education in VA to be fully licensed). The thing that is new is this resident teacher position just requires a 4 year degree and doesn't require passing the praxis--not even for the subject areas they are going to teach. It's problematic because it's not like you're going to be told your child's teacher is a "resident teacher" so people are going to be very confused when teachers don't have content knowledge. If your teacher is a long term sub you kind of know they may or may not have deep content knowledge and adjust accordingly.

I'm all for the resident teacher position given that there's a teacher shortage, I just think the praxis should be the bar to pass. It's a 1-4 hour test depending on subject area and there are on-line resources to study for it. It shouldn't be a problem for anyone who is capable of teaching the subject (though it's not an easy test, these are people who did get a college degree). Otherwise people are going to waste a lot of energy of mentoring, supporting a person who is not capable of passing the test. (There are people who enroll in graduate education programs who can't pass the praxis after many tries and have to go teach in Catholic/private schools that don't require it or switch out of the field).

Isn't there a curriculum, and all the teachers have to teach the same thing out of the same text or work books?

lolololololololol

*breathe*

lolololololololol

Okay, sorry.

I have taught 14 years and never had a workbook or a textbook to use for any of the courses I taught (middle/high school). Every single paper your kid gets is made from scratch by me, purchased by me online, or made in collaboration with my team.

This is such a common misconception though--I think it's why people think teaching is acceptably paid, why anyone can do it, why teachers are idiots when there are mistakes on papers. The general public thinks we are reading scripts, when in reality teachers are literally creating an 8 hour meeting agenda and all associated handouts every. single. day.

So a PP is saying that my child’s resident teacher hasn’t even passed the exam required to be a teacher? Like they could have a four year degree from the university of phoenix in something like sociology and be considered a fifth grade teacher??? And then you’re saying there’s no curriculum for them to follow? It’s just going to be a free for all?? WTF????

This will upset you even more when you realize the are certified teachers with degrees from U of Phoenix. I work with a lot of morons with traditional credentials. This will hurt education even more.

[/b]I don’t know why people think teaching is different than other industries. I’ve worked in offices where employees ranged from genius to utter idiot.

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♡grabbing popcorn 🍿

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am so pissed. My kid has one of these. I'd rather they just do 30-kid classes than have a fake teacher who has no idea what they're doing and a smaller class size. REALLY pissed.

How do you know??

It listed right next to her name in the school directory. "Teacher Resident"
I googled her. She has a 2021 undergraduate degree in theater. So someone who wanted to be an actress, realized it's impossible, and is now trying to teach without a teaching degree because it was an easy job to get. Can't wait.

Got it. My school doesn’t have the directory updated yet.

It seems that FCPS is spinning it like these are teachers with out of state license or the wrong license but have taught before. But this is definitely IAs last year who are now teaching. Maybe even having an IA that is the same level of qualification as them. Haha

Actually we have a new SPED teacher with 18 years of experience but has a provisional due to a move. Not everything is being spun so tread lightly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am so pissed. My kid has one of these. I'd rather they just do 30-kid classes than have a fake teacher who has no idea what they're doing and a smaller class size. REALLY pissed.

How do you know??

It listed right next to her name in the school directory. "Teacher Resident"
I googled her. She has a 2021 undergraduate degree in theater. So someone who wanted to be an actress, realized it's impossible, and is now trying to teach without a teaching degree because it was an easy job to get. Can't wait.

So? Remember when you were all piling on teachers during the pandemic, telling them they had to go in "because the kids don't catch it", telling them they should quit if they didn't go in and any warm body would do a better job, and then accusing them of being pedophiles and groomers? How much abuse did you think people would take for 60k a year? They listened to you! You bought it, you own it now. Enjoy!

LOL I remember that....

Me too me too.....I'm old enough to remember that LOLOL

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How do we find out if our child's teacher is one of these? I googled my child's teacher and did not see a teaching degree in their linked in profile.

Check the actual VDOE Licensure Query, not a social media site.

Did you see the part where I specifically asked HOW DO WE FIND OUT IF OUR CHILD'S TEACHER IS ONE OF THESE???

Morons, the lot of you.

NP

If they have a license it will show up in the database.

If they don’t, they won’t.

Anyone who escalates to calling people "morons" (this is an offensive term by the way, not just an insult) without realizing that the PP actually gave you reasonable information, maybe should be calming down and examining themselves before worrying about their child's teacher.

I don’t think the pp who suggested the Brie site is the moron

[Anonymous]

These people are stepping up to the plate, filling classrooms in a crisis and all people can say is how much they are going to suck.

This is why there is a teacher shortage in the first place. So much negativity. Whine, complain, rinse, repeat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And I meant it made sense for high school because they can skip the education degree part.

The resident teacher role only allows you to skip licensing requirements for the first year (And licensed high school teachers typically get a BA/BS in their subject area and either do a post-bac education courses or master's in education in VA to be fully licensed). The thing that is new is this resident teacher position just requires a 4 year degree and doesn't require passing the praxis--not even for the subject areas they are going to teach. It's problematic because it's not like you're going to be told your child's teacher is a "resident teacher" so people are going to be very confused when teachers don't have content knowledge. If your teacher is a long term sub you kind of know they may or may not have deep content knowledge and adjust accordingly.

I'm all for the resident teacher position given that there's a teacher shortage, I just think the praxis should be the bar to pass. It's a 1-4 hour test depending on subject area and there are on-line resources to study for it. It shouldn't be a problem for anyone who is capable of teaching the subject (though it's not an easy test, these are people who did get a college degree). Otherwise people are going to waste a lot of energy of mentoring, supporting a person who is not capable of passing the test. (There are people who enroll in graduate education programs who can't pass the praxis after many tries and have to go teach in Catholic/private schools that don't require it or switch out of the field).

Isn't there a curriculum, and all the teachers have to teach the same thing out of the same text or work books?

lolololololololol

*breathe*

lolololololololol

Okay, sorry.

I have taught 14 years and never had a workbook or a textbook to use for any of the courses I taught (middle/high school). Every single paper your kid gets is made from scratch by me, purchased by me online, or made in collaboration with my team.

This is such a common misconception though--I think it's why people think teaching is acceptably paid, why anyone can do it, why teachers are idiots when there are mistakes on papers. The general public thinks we are reading scripts, when in reality teachers are literally creating an 8 hour meeting agenda and all associated handouts every. single. day.

So a PP is saying that my child’s resident teacher hasn’t even passed the exam required to be a teacher? Like they could have a four year degree from the university of phoenix in something like sociology and be considered a fifth grade teacher??? And then you’re saying there’s no curriculum for them to follow? It’s just going to be a free for all?? WTF????

This will upset you even more when you realize the are certified teachers with degrees from U of Phoenix. I work with a lot of morons with traditional credentials. This will hurt education even more.

I don’t know why people think teaching is different than other industries. I’ve worked in offices where employees ranged from genius to utter idiot.

I would never hire anyone to be a lawyer that hadn’t studied the law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:And I meant it made sense for high school because they can skip the education degree part.

The resident teacher role only allows you to skip licensing requirements for the first year (And licensed high school teachers typically get a BA/BS in their subject area and either do a post-bac education courses or master's in education in VA to be fully licensed). The thing that is new is this resident teacher position just requires a 4 year degree and doesn't require passing the praxis--not even for the subject areas they are going to teach. It's problematic because it's not like you're going to be told your child's teacher is a "resident teacher" so people are going to be very confused when teachers don't have content knowledge. If your teacher is a long term sub you kind of know they may or may not have deep content knowledge and adjust accordingly.

I'm all for the resident teacher position given that there's a teacher shortage, I just think the praxis should be the bar to pass. It's a 1-4 hour test depending on subject area and there are on-line resources to study for it. It shouldn't be a problem for anyone who is capable of teaching the subject (though it's not an easy test, these are people who did get a college degree). Otherwise people are going to waste a lot of energy of mentoring, supporting a person who is not capable of passing the test. (There are people who enroll in graduate education programs who can't pass the praxis after many tries and have to go teach in Catholic/private schools that don't require it or switch out of the field).

Isn't there a curriculum, and all the teachers have to teach the same thing out of the same text or work books?

lolololololololol

*breathe*

lolololololololol

Okay, sorry.

I have taught 14 years and never had a workbook or a textbook to use for any of the courses I taught (middle/high school). Every single paper your kid gets is made from scratch by me, purchased by me online, or made in collaboration with my team.

This is such a common misconception though--I think it's why people think teaching is acceptably paid, why anyone can do it, why teachers are idiots when there are mistakes on papers. The general public thinks we are reading scripts, when in reality teachers are literally creating an 8 hour meeting agenda and all associated handouts every. single. day.

So a PP is saying that my child’s resident teacher hasn’t even passed the exam required to be a teacher? Like they could have a four year degree from the university of phoenix in something like sociology and be considered a fifth grade teacher??? And then you’re saying there’s no curriculum for them to follow? It’s just going to be a free for all?? WTF????

This will upset you even more when you realize the are certified teachers with degrees from U of Phoenix. I work with a lot of morons with traditional credentials. This will hurt education even more.

I don’t know why people think teaching is different than other industries. I’ve worked in offices where employees ranged from genius to utter idiot.

I would never hire anyone to be a lawyer that hadn’t studied the law.

Was t there like a whole TV show about that?