The Summer I Turned Pretty

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone here have trouble believing Conrad would still be in love with Belly?

I don't mean that in the way his stans mean it. From them, that question is coming from a place of being resentful of Belly. They think she doesn't have a personality and that Conrad is too good for her.

I don't think Conrad is too good for her, but I don't buy that he loves her that much after how hot and cold he was in S1. I know this sounds callous, but I don't know if I buy the fact that he acted that way just because his mom was dying, which is what his stans claim. It was sort of the quintessential "He's Just Not That Into You" situation, but with an element of grief in the storyline. (Genuinely open to be proven wrong if you guys have any real-life examples.)

I really think the years-long gap between seasons is making people forget the way Conrad treated Belly.

Not a single thing in the plot makes any sense at all and the characters themselves are wildly inconsistent as a result. The popularity of this series is shocking given how bad it is.

[Anonymous]

Agree. When they finally kissed on the beach and Conrad said ‘you’re it for me Belly’, I was like ‘why’? When had they even interacted that summer in a positive way. He was always being so aloof and saying sarcastic things to her like ‘grow up Belly’. So when/how did she become ‘it’?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone here have trouble believing Conrad would still be in love with Belly?

I don't mean that in the way his stans mean it. From them, that question is coming from a place of being resentful of Belly. They think she doesn't have a personality and that Conrad is too good for her.

I don't think Conrad is too good for her, but I don't buy that he loves her that much after how hot and cold he was in S1. I know this sounds callous, but I don't know if I buy the fact that he acted that way just because his mom was dying, which is what his stans claim. It was sort of the quintessential "He's Just Not That Into You" situation, but with an element of grief in the storyline. (Genuinely open to be proven wrong if you guys have any real-life examples.)

I really think the years-long gap between seasons is making people forget the way Conrad treated Belly.

I agree. It seems like he just wants her so he can "win" her from Jeremiah. He treats her horribly and doesn't have much of a personality. Jeremiah is at least fun and open about how he feels. He seems to truly love her.

I totally don’t see it that way. Conrad internalizes things. He has loved belly his whole life, but has poor self worth and impossibly high standards for himself. He thought he’d hurt her with his tendency to withdraw.

Jeremiah was onlt interested in belly as a friend until he saw Conrad make a move on her. Then his inferiority complex kicked in and *he* pursued belly out of jealousy. He was manipulative and immature - he interfered with her relationship with Conrad, cut her out for dating his brother, blamed her for their fallout, cheated on her, and told her to never “—-ing” call him again this past episode.

Belly convinced herself that Jeremiah was her best friend and that was what love was supposed to be. She was so deeply hurt by Conrad’s perceived rejection that she went for low risk Jeremiah, who ended up hurting her in many ways because he is so immature.

Conrad emotionally withdraws to protect those around him (which may hurt them, but noble intentions) and Jeremiah manipulates those around for self preservation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone here have trouble believing Conrad would still be in love with Belly?

I don't mean that in the way his stans mean it. From them, that question is coming from a place of being resentful of Belly. They think she doesn't have a personality and that Conrad is too good for her.

I don't think Conrad is too good for her, but I don't buy that he loves her that much after how hot and cold he was in S1. I know this sounds callous, but I don't know if I buy the fact that he acted that way just because his mom was dying, which is what his stans claim. It was sort of the quintessential "He's Just Not That Into You" situation, but with an element of grief in the storyline. (Genuinely open to be proven wrong if you guys have any real-life examples.)

I really think the years-long gap between seasons is making people forget the way Conrad treated Belly.

Not a single thing in the plot makes any sense at all and the characters themselves are wildly inconsistent as a result. The popularity of this series is shocking given how bad it is.

The books were better. I think people keep going waiting for the same magic to manifest onscreen.

[Anonymous]

Trouble story lines, I wanted to like it!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone here have trouble believing Conrad would still be in love with Belly?

I don't mean that in the way his stans mean it. From them, that question is coming from a place of being resentful of Belly. They think she doesn't have a personality and that Conrad is too good for her.

I don't think Conrad is too good for her, but I don't buy that he loves her that much after how hot and cold he was in S1. I know this sounds callous, but I don't know if I buy the fact that he acted that way just because his mom was dying, which is what his stans claim. It was sort of the quintessential "He's Just Not That Into You" situation, but with an element of grief in the storyline. (Genuinely open to be proven wrong if you guys have any real-life examples.)

I really think the years-long gap between seasons is making people forget the way Conrad treated Belly.

Not a single thing in the plot makes any sense at all and the characters themselves are wildly inconsistent as a result. The popularity of this series is shocking given how bad it is.

The books were better. I think people keep going waiting for the same magic to manifest onscreen.

Conrad and Jeremiah are inconsistent in the books too. I don't buy their arcs in the third book either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone here have trouble believing Conrad would still be in love with Belly?

I don't mean that in the way his stans mean it. From them, that question is coming from a place of being resentful of Belly. They think she doesn't have a personality and that Conrad is too good for her.

I don't think Conrad is too good for her, but I don't buy that he loves her that much after how hot and cold he was in S1. I know this sounds callous, but I don't know if I buy the fact that he acted that way just because his mom was dying, which is what his stans claim. It was sort of the quintessential "He's Just Not That Into You" situation, but with an element of grief in the storyline. (Genuinely open to be proven wrong if you guys have any real-life examples.)

I really think the years-long gap between seasons is making people forget the way Conrad treated Belly.

I agree. It seems like he just wants her so he can "win" her from Jeremiah. He treats her horribly and doesn't have much of a personality. Jeremiah is at least fun and open about how he feels. He seems to truly love her.

I totally don’t see it that way. Conrad internalizes things. He has loved belly his whole life, but has poor self worth and impossibly high standards for himself. He thought he’d hurt her with his tendency to withdraw.

Jeremiah was onlt interested in belly as a friend until he saw Conrad make a move on her. Then his inferiority complex kicked in and *he* pursued belly out of jealousy. He was manipulative and immature - he interfered with her relationship with Conrad, cut her out for dating his brother, blamed her for their fallout, cheated on her, and told her to never “—-ing” call him again this past episode.

Belly convinced herself that Jeremiah was her best friend and that was what love was supposed to be. She was so deeply hurt by Conrad’s perceived rejection that she went for low risk Jeremiah, who ended up hurting her in many ways because he is so immature.

Conrad emotionally withdraws to protect those around him (which may hurt them, but noble intentions) and Jeremiah manipulates those around for self preservation.

This is why I said the whole Conrad/Belly situation very much feels like a "He's Just Not That Into You" type of thing. A lot of women delude themselves into thinking a guy won't pursue them because they have other things on their plate or they just don't want to hurt you or some other justification, when that really isn't a thing that happens in real life. I think the idea of Conrad and Belly being soulmates is wish fulfillment for women who have pined over the sullen, withdrawn type who's hot and cold with you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just finished last night.
My thoughts-
why doesn’t belly have more than 2 friends at bachelorette party? Cause she is up fisher boy drama not stop

No hair and make up professional for wedding? Weird

So Jere is took a job in boston instead of going back to college in fall with belly. She gave up Paris to be in college with him. WTF

During all the drama, I wanted to scream at belly to just go to Paris.

How is the ending different from the book?

I could see them skipping professional hair and makeup in an effort to keep some of their desired simplicity, but who let Taylor do her hair so badly? It like so much better later that night when she puts it up in a bun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone here have trouble believing Conrad would still be in love with Belly?

I don't mean that in the way his stans mean it. From them, that question is coming from a place of being resentful of Belly. They think she doesn't have a personality and that Conrad is too good for her.

I don't think Conrad is too good for her, but I don't buy that he loves her that much after how hot and cold he was in S1. I know this sounds callous, but I don't know if I buy the fact that he acted that way just because his mom was dying, which is what his stans claim. It was sort of the quintessential "He's Just Not That Into You" situation, but with an element of grief in the storyline. (Genuinely open to be proven wrong if you guys have any real-life examples.)

I really think the years-long gap between seasons is making people forget the way Conrad treated Belly.

I agree. It seems like he just wants her so he can "win" her from Jeremiah. He treats her horribly and doesn't have much of a personality. Jeremiah is at least fun and open about how he feels. He seems to truly love her.

I totally don’t see it that way. Conrad internalizes things. He has loved belly his whole life, but has poor self worth and impossibly high standards for himself. He thought he’d hurt her with his tendency to withdraw.

Jeremiah was onlt interested in belly as a friend until he saw Conrad make a move on her. Then his inferiority complex kicked in and *he* pursued belly out of jealousy. He was manipulative and immature - he interfered with her relationship with Conrad, cut her out for dating his brother, blamed her for their fallout, cheated on her, and told her to never “—-ing” call him again this past episode.

Belly convinced herself that Jeremiah was her best friend and that was what love was supposed to be. She was so deeply hurt by Conrad’s perceived rejection that she went for low risk Jeremiah, who ended up hurting her in many ways because he is so immature.

Conrad emotionally withdraws to protect those around him (which may hurt them, but noble intentions) and Jeremiah manipulates those around for self preservation.

This is why I said the whole Conrad/Belly situation very much feels like a "He's Just Not That Into You" type of thing. A lot of women delude themselves into thinking a guy won't pursue them because they have other things on their plate or they just don't want to hurt you or some other justification, when that really isn't a thing that happens in real life. I think the idea of Conrad and Belly being soulmates is wish fulfillment for women who have pined over the sullen, withdrawn type who's hot and cold with you.

Of course it is. The whole genre is built on the premise of happy endings with the guys who give you amazing highs and horrible lows. That’s why it’s such an emotional rollercoaster.

My problem with Jeremiah is that he’s not really the sensible alternative. He’s majorly flawed, more so than Conrad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone here have trouble believing Conrad would still be in love with Belly?

I don't mean that in the way his stans mean it. From them, that question is coming from a place of being resentful of Belly. They think she doesn't have a personality and that Conrad is too good for her.

I don't think Conrad is too good for her, but I don't buy that he loves her that much after how hot and cold he was in S1. I know this sounds callous, but I don't know if I buy the fact that he acted that way just because his mom was dying, which is what his stans claim. It was sort of the quintessential "He's Just Not That Into You" situation, but with an element of grief in the storyline. (Genuinely open to be proven wrong if you guys have any real-life examples.)

I really think the years-long gap between seasons is making people forget the way Conrad treated Belly.

I agree. It seems like he just wants her so he can "win" her from Jeremiah. He treats her horribly and doesn't have much of a personality. Jeremiah is at least fun and open about how he feels. He seems to truly love her.

I totally don’t see it that way. Conrad internalizes things. He has loved belly his whole life, but has poor self worth and impossibly high standards for himself. He thought he’d hurt her with his tendency to withdraw.

Jeremiah was onlt interested in belly as a friend until he saw Conrad make a move on her. Then his inferiority complex kicked in and *he* pursued belly out of jealousy. He was manipulative and immature - he interfered with her relationship with Conrad, cut her out for dating his brother, blamed her for their fallout, cheated on her, and told her to never “—-ing” call him again this past episode.

Belly convinced herself that Jeremiah was her best friend and that was what love was supposed to be. She was so deeply hurt by Conrad’s perceived rejection that she went for low risk Jeremiah, who ended up hurting her in many ways because he is so immature.

Conrad emotionally withdraws to protect those around him (which may hurt them, but noble intentions) and Jeremiah manipulates those around for self preservation.

This is why I said the whole Conrad/Belly situation very much feels like a "He's Just Not That Into You" type of thing. A lot of women delude themselves into thinking a guy won't pursue them because they have other things on their plate or they just don't want to hurt you or some other justification, when that really isn't a thing that happens in real life. I think the idea of Conrad and Belly being soulmates is wish fulfillment for women who have pined over the sullen, withdrawn type who's hot and cold with you.

Of course it is. The whole genre is built on the premise of happy endings with the guys who give you amazing highs and horrible lows. That’s why it’s such an emotional rollercoaster.

My problem with Jeremiah is that he’s not really the sensible alternative. He’s majorly flawed, more so than Conrad.

Yes. Let's face what would have happened if this were reality. Conrad would be screwing someone in San Francisco and would have moved on a long time ago. Belly would be a distant memory.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone here have trouble believing Conrad would still be in love with Belly?

I don't mean that in the way his stans mean it. From them, that question is coming from a place of being resentful of Belly. They think she doesn't have a personality and that Conrad is too good for her.

I don't think Conrad is too good for her, but I don't buy that he loves her that much after how hot and cold he was in S1. I know this sounds callous, but I don't know if I buy the fact that he acted that way just because his mom was dying, which is what his stans claim. It was sort of the quintessential "He's Just Not That Into You" situation, but with an element of grief in the storyline. (Genuinely open to be proven wrong if you guys have any real-life examples.)

I really think the years-long gap between seasons is making people forget the way Conrad treated Belly.

I agree. It seems like he just wants her so he can "win" her from Jeremiah. He treats her horribly and doesn't have much of a personality. Jeremiah is at least fun and open about how he feels. He seems to truly love her.

I totally don’t see it that way. Conrad internalizes things. He has loved belly his whole life, but has poor self worth and impossibly high standards for himself. He thought he’d hurt her with his tendency to withdraw.

Jeremiah was onlt interested in belly as a friend until he saw Conrad make a move on her. Then his inferiority complex kicked in and *he* pursued belly out of jealousy. He was manipulative and immature - he interfered with her relationship with Conrad, cut her out for dating his brother, blamed her for their fallout, cheated on her, and told her to never “—-ing” call him again this past episode.

Belly convinced herself that Jeremiah was her best friend and that was what love was supposed to be. She was so deeply hurt by Conrad’s perceived rejection that she went for low risk Jeremiah, who ended up hurting her in many ways because he is so immature.

Conrad emotionally withdraws to protect those around him (which may hurt them, but noble intentions) and Jeremiah manipulates those around for self preservation.

This is why I said the whole Conrad/Belly situation very much feels like a "He's Just Not That Into You" type of thing. A lot of women delude themselves into thinking a guy won't pursue them because they have other things on their plate or they just don't want to hurt you or some other justification, when that really isn't a thing that happens in real life. I think the idea of Conrad and Belly being soulmates is wish fulfillment for women who have pined over the sullen, withdrawn type who's hot and cold with you.

Of course it is. The whole genre is built on the premise of happy endings with the guys who give you amazing highs and horrible lows. That’s why it’s such an emotional rollercoaster.

My problem with Jeremiah is that he’s not really the sensible alternative. He’s majorly flawed, more so than Conrad.

Yes. Let's face what would have happened if this were reality. Conrad would be screwing someone in San Francisco and would have moved on a long time ago. Belly would be a distant memory.

Yeah, I can't buy that Conrad dated no one in the 4 years since Belly? He's really been pining away for her so much that he wouldn't even date someone else? I'm just not buying the whole Connie/Belly great love story angle.

Not saying Jeremiah is perfect - he's obviously not, way too immature and he is on the path to be like his father - but I buy Jere/Belly love story so much more.

[Anonymous]

To be fair, we don’t know he hasn’t dated in the last 4 years. We just know he hasn’t been in love. I think it’s implied he hasn’t been in a relationship, but I also was assuming he and Agnes experimented with dating and it didn’t go anywhere despite her infatuation with him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To be fair, we don’t know he hasn’t dated in the last 4 years. We just know he hasn’t been in love. I think it’s implied he hasn’t been in a relationship, but I also was assuming he and Agnes experimented with dating and it didn’t go anywhere despite her infatuation with him.

I don’t get the impression he dated Agnes at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To be fair, we don’t know he hasn’t dated in the last 4 years. We just know he hasn’t been in love. I think it’s implied he hasn’t been in a relationship, but I also was assuming he and Agnes experimented with dating and it didn’t go anywhere despite her infatuation with him.

I also assumed he dated casually. He certainly hasn’t been celibate for four years. The show just said he’d only been in love once. They otherwise left details of his love life since belly very vague.

Also, he was premed in college. Everyone in college I knew who ended up going to med school was constantly studying. They had pretty limited time for their social lives and were very disciplined people.

[Anonymous]

Can't believe they didn't use "champagne problems" for the wedding ep.