Young people in other countries are remarkably thinner than Americans

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Anonymous wrote:These discussions always make me chuckle. The many scientists who study this for a living can’t figure out why we’ve become so fat, but every skinny broad on DCUM thinks they have the answer.

No…we all know why so many people are fat. Go to any restaurant and observe the portions consumed, look at what’s in the grocery cart of people shopping, look at the massive ice cream cones people consume as a “treat” except they have them on the regular, look at what most people are ordering in Starbucks (hint, not coffee). It is very obvious what is going on. But go ahead, play clueless

That doesn’t explain why there are people who eat this way and never get fat, or people who never eat this way and still get and stay fat.

DP. LOL! You are seeing what you want to see. Nobody eats "that much" and never gets overweight. It is simply impossible unless it is someone who is a superior athlete. Who are these people that never eat that way and get overweight? There is a calorie burned/calorie taken ration and there is no way a person that eats 1200 calories per day is getting overweight. You are delusional bcs you want to think there are people who are "blessed" instead of observing them and seeing that there is not one meal in their day or that they might have a large meal and then skip the next one.
How ridicilous! Pople tell me the same, oh, you eat so much, well, no, you have no idea how much I eat based on your one meal with me!

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Anonymous wrote:I've lived overseas quite a lot. I think what happens in some of these countries, I am thinking Eastern Europe/post Soviet space, is that women really do starve themselves (coffee and a piece of fruit for lunch/coffee and cigarettes to tide over, drinking/smoking vs. eating)and then boom, they hit 40 and it's like a switch goes off and all the damage they've done to their bodies means they rapidly gain weight. That's not everyone, of course, but very very many women.

I also lived in Eastern Europe for several years and this is spot on. (It’s been awhile so things may have changed.) But in my experience…Most young women did not have a healthy relationship with food. They smoked a lot to curb their appetite. They starved most of the time. They didn’t do anything athletic or exercise; there was a ton of fat shaming. The trend was to be very thin— not healthy.

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Anonymous wrote:These discussions always make me chuckle. The many scientists who study this for a living can’t figure out why we’ve become so fat, but every skinny broad on DCUM thinks they have the answer.

Are you kidding me? Of course scientists know. But public health messaging surrounding nutrition and weight control is so tied to special interest groups that it’s controversial for them to offer simple advice like “eat less.” Nutritionist Marion Nestle has written tons on this topic.

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Anonymous wrote:These discussions always make me chuckle. The many scientists who study this for a living can’t figure out why we’ve become so fat, but every skinny broad on DCUM thinks they have the answer.

They know it’s from eating like sht. You just don’t want to hear it.

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Scientist can't figure out why people are overweight? Really? Because 2+2 does not equal 4?

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Anonymous wrote:European foods are a higher quality. Just Google all of the chemicals and additives that are in our packaged foods that are not allowed in Europe.

My SIL & BIL moved to Germany for his work in 2021. Since then, both my SIL's and nephew's stomach issues have been cleared up. They don't eat differently than they did in the US. They do, however, now eat the same products without a bunch of the additives and chemicals that are present in the US versions.

Here's a good article w/ products and their nutrition label comps to UK products. Very interesting.

https://foodbabe.com/food-in-america-compared-to-the-u-k-why-is-it-so-different/

Yep!

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I have one extremely skinny kid and one chubby one. I tell both that they shouldn't eat too much sugar and teach them about good nutrition. They are actually very interested. However one naturally prefers proteins and the other carbs and I think that's the main reason between the difference in their constitutions. I worry about the skinny one more because if he gets a stomach bug and loses any weight, he really starts to look like he escaped from the shooting of The Survivor finale. Meanwhile I'm teaching both to prefer healthy foods and think about food in terms of fuel for a healthy and happy life. Fingers crossed they grow up without a warped sense of what they should / shouldn't eat.

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Anonymous wrote:I've lived overseas quite a lot. I think what happens in some of these countries, I am thinking Eastern Europe/post Soviet space, is that women really do starve themselves (coffee and a piece of fruit for lunch/coffee and cigarettes to tide over, drinking/smoking vs. eating)and then boom, they hit 40 and it's like a switch goes off and all the damage they've done to their bodies means they rapidly gain weight. That's not everyone, of course, but very very many women.

I also lived in Eastern Europe for several years and this is spot on. (It’s been awhile so things may have changed.) But in my experience…Most young women did not have a healthy relationship with food. They smoked a lot to curb their appetite. They starved most of the time. They didn’t do anything athletic or exercise; there was a ton of fat shaming. The trend was to be very thin— not healthy.

This is the crux. Americans think of us as having disordered eating because we watch the quality and quantity of the food we eat. We think of Americans as having a very unhealthy relationship with food because you use food as a band-aid for emotional problems. Americans eat when they are sad, tired, stressed, bored. They always celebrate with food. They eat all the time, sometimes hourly. Food is the legal drug addiction in the US and it shows. I don't think we're very thin. For example, most of my life I've been 120 lbs at 5'7, which is not even at the limit of the NORMAL HEALTHY BMI. If you put me next to the average American woman, who is is 3 inches shorter and 50 lbs heavier, I probably look skeletal. But I'm the normal, healthy one. I'm 46 y/o and I can run 5 miles effortlessly, hike 15 miles easily, and I've never had problems sleeping and my blood work and blood pressure are picture perfect. I got pregnant easily, even at 41 y/o and I carried two perfectly healthy boys to term. I've never had menstrual problems, fibroids etc. I've never smoked and women smokers are still the minority in EE. But even with the higher smoking rates, we still live longer and healthier lives. For example, Greece has a pretty high smoking rate even for Europe and a life expectancy that is 10 years longer than yours. So your addiction to food is worse than smoking.

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Anonymous wrote:I've lived overseas quite a lot. I think what happens in some of these countries, I am thinking Eastern Europe/post Soviet space, is that women really do starve themselves (coffee and a piece of fruit for lunch/coffee and cigarettes to tide over, drinking/smoking vs. eating)and then boom, they hit 40 and it's like a switch goes off and all the damage they've done to their bodies means they rapidly gain weight. That's not everyone, of course, but very very many women.

I also lived in Eastern Europe for several years and this is spot on. (It’s been awhile so things may have changed.) But in my experience…Most young women did not have a healthy relationship with food. They smoked a lot to curb their appetite. They starved most of the time. They didn’t do anything athletic or exercise; there was a ton of fat shaming. The trend was to be very thin— not healthy.

This is the crux. Americans think of us as having disordered eating because we watch the quality and quantity of the food we eat. We think of Americans as having a very unhealthy relationship with food because you use food as a band-aid for emotional problems. Americans eat when they are sad, tired, stressed, bored. They always celebrate with food. They eat all the time, sometimes hourly. Food is the legal drug addiction in the US and it shows. I don't think we're very thin. For example, most of my life I've been 120 lbs at 5'7, which is not even at the limit of the NORMAL HEALTHY BMI. If you put me next to the average American woman, who is is 3 inches shorter and 50 lbs heavier, I probably look skeletal. But I'm the normal, healthy one. I'm 46 y/o and I can run 5 miles effortlessly, hike 15 miles easily, and I've never had problems sleeping and my blood work and blood pressure are picture perfect. I got pregnant easily, even at 41 y/o and I carried two perfectly healthy boys to term. I've never had menstrual problems, fibroids etc. I've never smoked and women smokers are still the minority in EE. But even with the higher smoking rates, we still live longer and healthier lives. For example, Greece has a pretty high smoking rate even for Europe and a life expectancy that is 10 years longer than yours. So your addiction to food is worse than smoking.

And the exercise claim is ridiculous. We have high rates of exercise, much higher than those in the US. And we also walk everywhere. Just because you drive your car to the gym and then do 20 min of slow elliptical while watching TV and leaning on the bars, it doesn't mean you exercise and are in shape.

https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2021-08/Global%20views%20on%20sports%20and%20exercise%20Global%20Advisor.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:I've lived overseas quite a lot. I think what happens in some of these countries, I am thinking Eastern Europe/post Soviet space, is that women really do starve themselves (coffee and a piece of fruit for lunch/coffee and cigarettes to tide over, drinking/smoking vs. eating)and then boom, they hit 40 and it's like a switch goes off and all the damage they've done to their bodies means they rapidly gain weight. That's not everyone, of course, but very very many women.

I also lived in Eastern Europe for several years and this is spot on. (It’s been awhile so things may have changed.) But in my experience…Most young women did not have a healthy relationship with food. They smoked a lot to curb their appetite. They starved most of the time. They didn’t do anything athletic or exercise; there was a ton of fat shaming. The trend was to be very thin— not healthy.

This is the crux. Americans think of us as having disordered eating because we watch the quality and quantity of the food we eat. We think of Americans as having a very unhealthy relationship with food because you use food as a band-aid for emotional problems. Americans eat when they are sad, tired, stressed, bored. They always celebrate with food. They eat all the time, sometimes hourly. Food is the legal drug addiction in the US and it shows. I don't think we're very thin. For example, most of my life I've been 120 lbs at 5'7, which is not even at the limit of the NORMAL HEALTHY BMI. If you put me next to the average American woman, who is is 3 inches shorter and 50 lbs heavier, I probably look skeletal. But I'm the normal, healthy one. I'm 46 y/o and I can run 5 miles effortlessly, hike 15 miles easily, and I've never had problems sleeping and my blood work and blood pressure are picture perfect. I got pregnant easily, even at 41 y/o and I carried two perfectly healthy boys to term. I've never had menstrual problems, fibroids etc. I've never smoked and women smokers are still the minority in EE. But even with the higher smoking rates, we still live longer and healthier lives. For example, Greece has a pretty high smoking rate even for Europe and a life expectancy that is 10 years longer than yours. So your addiction to food is worse than smoking.

I agree with most of your points. However, at 46 with a BMI of 18.8, I don’t know if I’d be bragging you are the picture of good health. 18.5 is clinically underweight. No one is THAT close to being clinically underweight in their 40s unless they are ill or purposely eating (or not eating) to be extra thin

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've lived overseas quite a lot. I think what happens in some of these countries, I am thinking Eastern Europe/post Soviet space, is that women really do starve themselves (coffee and a piece of fruit for lunch/coffee and cigarettes to tide over, drinking/smoking vs. eating)and then boom, they hit 40 and it's like a switch goes off and all the damage they've done to their bodies means they rapidly gain weight. That's not everyone, of course, but very very many women.

I also lived in Eastern Europe for several years and this is spot on. (It’s been awhile so things may have changed.) But in my experience…Most young women did not have a healthy relationship with food. They smoked a lot to curb their appetite. They starved most of the time. They didn’t do anything athletic or exercise; there was a ton of fat shaming. The trend was to be very thin— not healthy.

This is the crux. Americans think of us as having disordered eating because we watch the quality and quantity of the food we eat. We think of Americans as having a very unhealthy relationship with food because you use food as a band-aid for emotional problems. Americans eat when they are sad, tired, stressed, bored. They always celebrate with food. They eat all the time, sometimes hourly. Food is the legal drug addiction in the US and it shows. I don't think we're very thin. For example, most of my life I've been 120 lbs at 5'7, which is not even at the limit of the NORMAL HEALTHY BMI. If you put me next to the average American woman, who is is 3 inches shorter and 50 lbs heavier, I probably look skeletal. But I'm the normal, healthy one. I'm 46 y/o and I can run 5 miles effortlessly, hike 15 miles easily, and I've never had problems sleeping and my blood work and blood pressure are picture perfect. I got pregnant easily, even at 41 y/o and I carried two perfectly healthy boys to term. I've never had menstrual problems, fibroids etc. I've never smoked and women smokers are still the minority in EE. But even with the higher smoking rates, we still live longer and healthier lives. For example, Greece has a pretty high smoking rate even for Europe and a life expectancy that is 10 years longer than yours. So your addiction to food is worse than smoking.

I agree with most of your points. However, at 46 with a BMI of 18.8, I don’t know if I’d be bragging you are the picture of good health. 18.5 is clinically underweight. No one is THAT close to being clinically underweight in their 40s unless they are ill or purposely eating (or not eating) to be extra thin

Or it’s genetic. I’m the same weight but three inches shorter, so in the middle of healthy BMI which is skinny in America. I lived in Eastern Europe and I saw as many women with her build as I did with my build, and some women slightly bigger but still not overweight, and these women would try to diet for vanity reasons. I don’t really have any fat to lose, but my bones are set wider than PPs, just a wider hips and a wide rib cage like an opera singer. So I’m lean but not lanky or petite.

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We don't shame fat people anymore, its the fat acceptance movement. Sad.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've lived overseas quite a lot. I think what happens in some of these countries, I am thinking Eastern Europe/post Soviet space, is that women really do starve themselves (coffee and a piece of fruit for lunch/coffee and cigarettes to tide over, drinking/smoking vs. eating)and then boom, they hit 40 and it's like a switch goes off and all the damage they've done to their bodies means they rapidly gain weight. That's not everyone, of course, but very very many women.

I also lived in Eastern Europe for several years and this is spot on. (It’s been awhile so things may have changed.) But in my experience…Most young women did not have a healthy relationship with food. They smoked a lot to curb their appetite. They starved most of the time. They didn’t do anything athletic or exercise; there was a ton of fat shaming. The trend was to be very thin— not healthy.

This is the crux. Americans think of us as having disordered eating because we watch the quality and quantity of the food we eat. We think of Americans as having a very unhealthy relationship with food because you use food as a band-aid for emotional problems. Americans eat when they are sad, tired, stressed, bored. They always celebrate with food. They eat all the time, sometimes hourly. Food is the legal drug addiction in the US and it shows. I don't think we're very thin. For example, most of my life I've been 120 lbs at 5'7, which is not even at the limit of the NORMAL HEALTHY BMI. If you put me next to the average American woman, who is is 3 inches shorter and 50 lbs heavier, I probably look skeletal. But I'm the normal, healthy one. I'm 46 y/o and I can run 5 miles effortlessly, hike 15 miles easily, and I've never had problems sleeping and my blood work and blood pressure are picture perfect. I got pregnant easily, even at 41 y/o and I carried two perfectly healthy boys to term. I've never had menstrual problems, fibroids etc. I've never smoked and women smokers are still the minority in EE. But even with the higher smoking rates, we still live longer and healthier lives. For example, Greece has a pretty high smoking rate even for Europe and a life expectancy that is 10 years longer than yours. So your addiction to food is worse than smoking.

I agree with most of your points. However, at 46 with a BMI of 18.8, I don’t know if I’d be bragging you are the picture of good health. 18.5 is clinically underweight. No one is THAT close to being clinically underweight in their 40s unless they are ill or purposely eating (or not eating) to be extra thin

Or it’s genetic. I’m the same weight but three inches shorter, so in the middle of healthy BMI which is skinny in America. I lived in Eastern Europe and I saw as many women with her build as I did with my build, and some women slightly bigger but still not overweight, and these women would try to diet for vanity reasons. I don’t really have any fat to lose, but my bones are set wider than PPs, just a wider hips and a wide rib cage like an opera singer. So I’m lean but not lanky or petite.

Yes, you are right - I'm small boned. 30 bra size after kids, I was 28 before. I have a big butt for my size, but otherwise I'm small.

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However, at 46 with a BMI of 18.8, I don’t know if I’d be bragging you are the picture of good health. 18.5 is clinically underweight. No one is THAT close to being clinically underweight in their 40s unless they are ill or purposely eating (or not eating) to be extra thin

DP (bmi 18.72), you're wrong. A low bmi most often is the result of consistent, reasonable, healthy food intake, through out the years (decades rather). It's cumulative, just as much as gaining 200 lbs is cumulative, it didn't just happen overnight.
I've had people telling me to "eat a burger" my whole life and never once I've heard any doctor telling me to gain weight or change my diet.
Normal BMI that's low is still normal, that's what medicine says. Believe it.

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However, at 46 with a BMI of 18.8, I don’t know if I’d be bragging you are the picture of good health. 18.5 is clinically underweight. No one is THAT close to being clinically underweight in their 40s unless they are ill or purposely eating (or not eating) to be extra thin

DP (bmi 18.72), you're wrong. A low bmi most often is the result of consistent, reasonable, healthy food intake, through out the years (decades rather). It's cumulative, just as much as gaining 200 lbs is cumulative, it didn't just happen overnight.
I've had people telling me to "eat a burger" my whole life and never once I've heard any doctor telling me to gain weight or change my diet.
Normal BMI that's low is still normal, that's what medicine says. Believe it.

So you don’t restrict to be that weight?