TJ admissions decision - repercussions for Class of 2026

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Anonymous wrote:What is the status of the emergency stay?

It’s awaiting rejection from Judge Hilton before it travels up to the 4th Circuit, where it will almost certainly be granted in the interest of the 2500 out of the initial nearly 3000 who are still eligible to be selected. It goes without saying that those families deserve to be able to make plans through a regular release of decisions in early spring.

No one deserves anything. Admissions is not an entitlement. The current batch of students were admitted under a racist policy. The admissions must be redone.

And the last batch of students was admitted under even worse racist policies.

File a lawsuit and get that old "racist" policy changed.

Good luck proving in court that testing for problem-solving skills is racist.

There's a lot more evidence for "disparate impact" there than there is in a holistic process that resulted in a spread of offers that largely mirrored the applicant pool. It only survived for so long because it was the status quo.

Your per capita income is highly disparate/obscenely high compared to someone in Africa/Asia. We need to take your income and give it to someone else. Do you think you work more than them or are smarter?

The level to which folks on this board are HORRID at producing sound analogies makes me wonder how they expect their children to get into TJ in the first place.

But we do have a progressive taxation system in America, and while I do have a significantly higher income than many people who live in America, some of my money goes to help support those people who don't make as much. I benefit disproportionately from the society I live in.

I don't know if I work harder than those people or are smarter than them. For the most part, I haven't met them. But I don't mind a small amount of my money going to help those people, or to build roads and bridges, or to pay for public schools to exist and thrive (I don't have kids).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, OP, that would be one option. FCPS could comply and revise its criteria. Another option would be an appeal to the Fourth Circuit and a request for a stay of the lower court’s order. Reasonable minds can differ as to whether that would be successful. It probably would be.

Couldn’t FCPS just ignore the order? File an appeal, select the class of 2026 and see how the appeal shakes out? I don’t think the school board has the time to remake the process.

Couldn’t ignoring a valid order subject the relevant parties to contempt proceedings, fines, and potentially federal imprisonment?

Yes contemp of court. Brabrand and the school board members could be imprisoned until they agree to comply.

Funny how the racist Trumpers forget their man, his family, and their con friends are the champs when it comes to contempt of everything: Court, Congress, you name it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, OP, that would be one option. FCPS could comply and revise its criteria. Another option would be an appeal to the Fourth Circuit and a request for a stay of the lower court’s order. Reasonable minds can differ as to whether that would be successful. It probably would be.

Couldn’t FCPS just ignore the order? File an appeal, select the class of 2026 and see how the appeal shakes out? I don’t think the school board has the time to remake the process.

Couldn’t ignoring a valid order subject the relevant parties to contempt proceedings, fines, and potentially federal imprisonment?

Yes contemp of court. Brabrand and the school board members could be imprisoned until they agree to comply.

Funny how the racist Trumpers forget their man, his family, and their con friends are the champs when it comes to contempt of everything: Court, Congress, you name it.

And vice versa.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What is the status of the emergency stay?

Do emergent stays usually take 2 weeks?

[Anonymous]

The hearing regarding the emergency stay request is Friday 3/11 at 10am

Below is the link to the brief filed by plaintiffs opposing the stay

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vaed.505154/gov.uscourts.vaed.505154.148.0.pdf

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the status of the emergency stay?

It’s awaiting rejection from Judge Hilton before it travels up to the 4th Circuit, where it will almost certainly be granted in the interest of the 2500 out of the initial nearly 3000 who are still eligible to be selected. It goes without saying that those families deserve to be able to make plans through a regular release of decisions in early spring.

No one deserves anything. Admissions is not an entitlement. The current batch of students were admitted under a racist policy. The admissions must be redone.

And the last batch of students was admitted under even worse racist policies.

File a lawsuit and get that old "racist" policy changed.

Good luck proving in court that testing for problem-solving skills is racist.

There's a lot more evidence for "disparate impact" there than there is in a holistic process that resulted in a spread of offers that largely mirrored the applicant pool. It only survived for so long because it was the status quo.

Your per capita income is highly disparate/obscenely high compared to someone in Africa/Asia. We need to take your income and give it to someone else. Do you think you work more than them or are smarter?

The level to which folks on this board are HORRID at producing sound analogies makes me wonder how they expect their children to get into TJ in the first place.

But we do have a progressive taxation system in America, and while I do have a significantly higher income than many people who live in America, some of my money goes to help support those people who don't make as much. I benefit disproportionately from the society I live in.

I don't know if I work harder than those people or are smarter than them. For the most part, I haven't met them. But I don't mind a small amount of my money going to help those people, or to build roads and bridges, or to pay for public schools to exist and thrive (I don't have kids).

Ahhh, only a small amount. This is not equitable. You ought to be ashamed of yourself, you privilege hoarder!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, OP, that would be one option. FCPS could comply and revise its criteria. Another option would be an appeal to the Fourth Circuit and a request for a stay of the lower court’s order. Reasonable minds can differ as to whether that would be successful. It probably would be.

Couldn’t FCPS just ignore the order? File an appeal, select the class of 2026 and see how the appeal shakes out? I don’t think the school board has the time to remake the process.

Couldn’t ignoring a valid order subject the relevant parties to contempt proceedings, fines, and potentially federal imprisonment?

Yes contemp of court. Brabrand and the school board members could be imprisoned until they agree to comply.

Funny how the racist Trumpers forget their man, his family, and their con friends are the champs when it comes to contempt of everything: Court, Congress, you name it.

So... Brabrand using Trump tactics is that something you support and encourage?

[Anonymous]

What's the word on the stay decision?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's the word on the stay decision?

They are still in the courtroom for the hearing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What's the word on the stay decision?

They are still in the courtroom for the hearing.

Does anyone know if it is open to the public or available on line to view?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the status of the emergency stay?

It’s awaiting rejection from Judge Hilton before it travels up to the 4th Circuit, where it will almost certainly be granted in the interest of the 2500 out of the initial nearly 3000 who are still eligible to be selected. It goes without saying that those families deserve to be able to make plans through a regular release of decisions in early spring.

No one deserves anything. Admissions is not an entitlement. The current batch of students were admitted under a racist policy. The admissions must be redone.

And the last batch of students was admitted under even worse racist policies.

File a lawsuit and get that old "racist" policy changed.

Good luck proving in court that testing for problem-solving skills is racist.

There's a lot more evidence for "disparate impact" there than there is in a holistic process that resulted in a spread of offers that largely mirrored the applicant pool. It only survived for so long because it was the status quo.

Your per capita income is highly disparate/obscenely high compared to someone in Africa/Asia. We need to take your income and give it to someone else. Do you think you work more than them or are smarter?

The level to which folks on this board are HORRID at producing sound analogies makes me wonder how they expect their children to get into TJ in the first place.

But we do have a progressive taxation system in America, and while I do have a significantly higher income than many people who live in America, some of my money goes to help support those people who don't make as much. I benefit disproportionately from the society I live in.

I don't know if I work harder than those people or are smarter than them. For the most part, I haven't met them. But I don't mind a small amount of my money going to help those people, or to build roads and bridges, or to pay for public schools to exist and thrive (I don't have kids).

Now the liberals claim the rich pay enough taxes?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What's the word on the stay decision?

They are still in the courtroom for the hearing.

Any updates???

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's the word on the stay decision?

They are still in the courtroom for the hearing.

Any updates???

Other thread says DENIED!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The hearing regarding the emergency stay request is Friday 3/11 at 10am

Below is the link to the brief filed by plaintiffs opposing the stay

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vaed.505154/gov.uscourts.vaed.505154.148.0.pdf

I stopped reading when PLF made the argument that the Admissions Office was free to use the previous admissions process to select students instead of developing a new process. They plainly are not as two of the exams that were previously used no longer exist and developing a plan for assessing the Quant-Q, using it to cull a list of semifinalists, and then gathering teacher recommendations would almost certainly drive the process well into the fall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The hearing regarding the emergency stay request is Friday 3/11 at 10am

Below is the link to the brief filed by plaintiffs opposing the stay

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vaed.505154/gov.uscourts.vaed.505154.148.0.pdf

I stopped reading when PLF made the argument that the Admissions Office was free to use the previous admissions process to select students instead of developing a new process. They plainly are not as two of the exams that were previously used no longer exist and developing a plan for assessing the Quant-Q, using it to cull a list of semifinalists, and then gathering teacher recommendations would almost certainly drive the process well into the fall.

FCPS has 5 MONTHS so that is plenty of time. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.