New York times op ed on maintaining black spaces

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, segregation is being pushed by the woke crowd especially at work and on college campuses. They request racial "safe spaces" such as dorms or work groups that only include POC.

I’m starting to think it might not be a bad idea to go back to some level of segregation. Americans seem unable to play nicely with members of other races. Maybe we’d all be happier if we mostly lived our lives separately?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Imagine a white person writing an Op-ED in the times complaining that their " white space" was violated by an AA wanting to use it.

Agreed, and for good reason.

Not sure why we can't hold both whites and blacks to the same standards. And by that I mean that an action or statement that is racist when done by a white person to a black person shoiuld be considered to be equally racist if the skin colors were reversed.

We will - after 500 years of whites being enslaved by blacks. Then we'll be even.

so, when the Jews forget they were slaves in Egypt? I guess I need to marry a black man PDQ so that my children will be sinless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I, unlike most of you, spent the time to read the op ed. There was NOTHING racist about what she said. Inglewood is one of the remaining majority black neighborhoods in LA. It was black because white people didn't want to live there. Now that LA is expensive, white people want to come back. This article is about gentrification. I get it.

The reality is that a neighborhood changes when white people move in. Some of it is good and some of it is bad. More services come, but that sense of community goes away. That is not a racist statement. My white friends who live in older black neighborhoods talk about young white people moving in all the time. They hate it. The culture of the neighborhood changes. Here's one example, black people speak to you when you walk down the street. When you don't speak it feels disrespectful. Many white people don't speak. They just don't. There have been articles about this. They walk into their homes and don't interact with the neighbors. That is a cultural thing. Older black people sit on their porches.

It's not good or bad, it's just different. When young white people move into black neighborhoods, they don't always take the time to understand the culture of the neighborhood. This is not all white people, but it's many. That is not a racist statement, it just points out differences.

It's sad that by just pointing out differences, you are immediately labeled a racist. How about you get to know our culture. If you are black in America, you understand white culture, but the reverse is not always true.

I don't assume that I understand Latino culture (of course depending on where you are from that differs) or Indian culture or Asian culture. I like that there are differences and love learning. How is that racist?

Imagine a white Italian American writing the same OP-ed lamenting the fact about Latino people using their library, because Little Italy in Baltimore and many other cities has been transformed pretty much entirely by a huge influx of Hispanic residents.

So let me get this straight - white people move in = racism, because of gentrification. White people move out = racism, because of white flight. White people move into the city, but stick with themselves = racism, because the city is segregated.

So where exactly are people supposed to live? Gentrification can also be GOOD, because many black Americans can start acquiring intergenerational wealth once they are able to cash in on the explosion in real estate prices.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I, unlike most of you, spent the time to read the op ed. There was NOTHING racist about what she said. Inglewood is one of the remaining majority black neighborhoods in LA. It was black because white people didn't want to live there. Now that LA is expensive, white people want to come back. This article is about gentrification. I get it.

The reality is that a neighborhood changes when white people move in. Some of it is good and some of it is bad. More services come, but that sense of community goes away. That is not a racist statement. My white friends who live in older black neighborhoods talk about young white people moving in all the time. They hate it. The culture of the neighborhood changes. Here's one example, black people speak to you when you walk down the street. When you don't speak it feels disrespectful. Many white people don't speak. They just don't. There have been articles about this. They walk into their homes and don't interact with the neighbors. That is a cultural thing. Older black people sit on their porches.

It's not good or bad, it's just different. When young white people move into black neighborhoods, they don't always take the time to understand the culture of the neighborhood. This is not all white people, but it's many. That is not a racist statement, it just points out differences.

It's sad that by just pointing out differences, you are immediately labeled a racist. How about you get to know our culture. If you are black in America, you understand white culture, but the reverse is not always true.

I don't assume that I understand Latino culture (of course depending on where you are from that differs) or Indian culture or Asian culture. I like that there are differences and love learning. How is that racist?

She doesn't point out differences. She points out that both her neighbors of color and this white couple like little libraries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, segregation is being pushed by the woke crowd especially at work and on college campuses. They request racial "safe spaces" such as dorms or work groups that only include POC.

I’m starting to think it might not be a bad idea to go back to some level of segregation. Americans seem unable to play nicely with members of other races. Maybe we’d all be happier if we mostly lived our lives separately?

It's the goal of hostile outside forces like the Russians to try to balkanize the entire country and to pit factions of individuals against each other in the oppression olympics where one group are the oppressors, and the others are the victims. Identity politics is like the greatest gift ever given to the Russians to destroy the US from within.

[Anonymous]

What if the books in the weird little box addresses systemic racism?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of fragility on display here!

The old standby! Way to shut down debate! Slam dunk!

Yeah lots of fragility but it isn’t being displayed by the people that OP thinks are displaying it.

[Anonymous]

Those books generally gross me out. I found a silverfish in one once.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I, unlike most of you, spent the time to read the op ed. There was NOTHING racist about what she said. Inglewood is one of the remaining majority black neighborhoods in LA. It was black because white people didn't want to live there. Now that LA is expensive, white people want to come back. This article is about gentrification. I get it.

The reality is that a neighborhood changes when white people move in. Some of it is good and some of it is bad. More services come, but that sense of community goes away. That is not a racist statement. My white friends who live in older black neighborhoods talk about young white people moving in all the time. They hate it. The culture of the neighborhood changes. Here's one example, black people speak to you when you walk down the street. When you don't speak it feels disrespectful. Many white people don't speak. They just don't. There have been articles about this. They walk into their homes and don't interact with the neighbors. That is a cultural thing. Older black people sit on their porches.

It's not good or bad, it's just different. When young white people move into black neighborhoods, they don't always take the time to understand the culture of the neighborhood. This is not all white people, but it's many. That is not a racist statement, it just points out differences.

It's sad that by just pointing out differences, you are immediately labeled a racist. How about you get to know our culture. If you are black in America, you understand white culture, but the reverse is not always true.

I don't assume that I understand Latino culture (of course depending on where you are from that differs) or Indian culture or Asian culture. I like that there are differences and love learning. How is that racist?

Yeah, those are pretty sweeping generalizations to make of an entire group of people, but sure. White people ruin everything and we should effectively ban gentrification, or at least force people to comply with certain standards of conversation before they can move in to a neighborhood. I also agree with the author that we should segregate those little libraries for only certain people. Congratulations on winning this debate. This all helps the issue of race in America.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I, unlike most of you, spent the time to read the op ed. There was NOTHING racist about what she said. Inglewood is one of the remaining majority black neighborhoods in LA. It was black because white people didn't want to live there. Now that LA is expensive, white people want to come back. This article is about gentrification. I get it.

The reality is that a neighborhood changes when white people move in. Some of it is good and some of it is bad. More services come, but that sense of community goes away. That is not a racist statement. My white friends who live in older black neighborhoods talk about young white people moving in all the time. They hate it. The culture of the neighborhood changes. Here's one example, black people speak to you when you walk down the street. When you don't speak it feels disrespectful. Many white people don't speak. They just don't. There have been articles about this. They walk into their homes and don't interact with the neighbors. That is a cultural thing. Older black people sit on their porches.

It's not good or bad, it's just different. When young white people move into black neighborhoods, they don't always take the time to understand the culture of the neighborhood. This is not all white people, but it's many. That is not a racist statement, it just points out differences.

It's sad that by just pointing out differences, you are immediately labeled a racist. How about you get to know our culture. If you are black in America, you understand white culture, but the reverse is not always true.

I don't assume that I understand Latino culture (of course depending on where you are from that differs) or Indian culture or Asian culture. I like that there are differences and love learning. How is that racist?

Imagine a white Italian American writing the same OP-ed lamenting the fact about Latino people using their library, because Little Italy in Baltimore and many other cities has been transformed pretty much entirely by a huge influx of Hispanic residents.

So let me get this straight - white people move in = racism, because of gentrification. White people move out = racism, because of white flight. White people move into the city, but stick with themselves = racism, because the city is segregated.

So where exactly are people supposed to live? Gentrification can also be GOOD, because many black Americans can start acquiring intergenerational wealth once they are able to cash in on the explosion in real estate prices.

It's white people moving into spaces that became black because there was no where else for these folks to live. Now these same places are desirable so white people want to move in. With that comes housing appreciation (which I understand can be great for some) and a cultural change in the neighborhood. It's not about the white people being racist. It's about culture. I guess she underestimated the ability white people to understand nuance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I, unlike most of you, spent the time to read the op ed. There was NOTHING racist about what she said. Inglewood is one of the remaining majority black neighborhoods in LA. It was black because white people didn't want to live there. Now that LA is expensive, white people want to come back. This article is about gentrification. I get it.

The reality is that a neighborhood changes when white people move in. Some of it is good and some of it is bad. More services come, but that sense of community goes away. That is not a racist statement. My white friends who live in older black neighborhoods talk about young white people moving in all the time. They hate it. The culture of the neighborhood changes. Here's one example, black people speak to you when you walk down the street. When you don't speak it feels disrespectful. Many white people don't speak. They just don't. There have been articles about this. They walk into their homes and don't interact with the neighbors. That is a cultural thing. Older black people sit on their porches.

It's not good or bad, it's just different. When young white people move into black neighborhoods, they don't always take the time to understand the culture of the neighborhood. This is not all white people, but it's many. That is not a racist statement, it just points out differences.

It's sad that by just pointing out differences, you are immediately labeled a racist. How about you get to know our culture. If you are black in America, you understand white culture, but the reverse is not always true.

I don't assume that I understand Latino culture (of course depending on where you are from that differs) or Indian culture or Asian culture. I like that there are differences and love learning. How is that racist?

Imagine a white Italian American writing the same OP-ed lamenting the fact about Latino people using their library, because Little Italy in Baltimore and many other cities has been transformed pretty much entirely by a huge influx of Hispanic residents.

So let me get this straight - white people move in = racism, because of gentrification. White people move out = racism, because of white flight. White people move into the city, but stick with themselves = racism, because the city is segregated.

So where exactly are people supposed to live? Gentrification can also be GOOD, because many black Americans can start acquiring intergenerational wealth once they are able to cash in on the explosion in real estate prices.

It's white people moving into spaces that became black because there was no where else for these folks to live. Now these same places are desirable so white people want to move in. With that comes housing appreciation (which I understand can be great for some) and a cultural change in the neighborhood. It's not about the white people being racist. It's about culture. I guess she underestimated the ability white people to understand nuance.

Being triggered by seeing some white peoples looking at a little library seems deeply bizarre.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I, unlike most of you, spent the time to read the op ed. There was NOTHING racist about what she said. Inglewood is one of the remaining majority black neighborhoods in LA. It was black because white people didn't want to live there. Now that LA is expensive, white people want to come back. This article is about gentrification. I get it.

The reality is that a neighborhood changes when white people move in. Some of it is good and some of it is bad. More services come, but that sense of community goes away. That is not a racist statement. My white friends who live in older black neighborhoods talk about young white people moving in all the time. They hate it. The culture of the neighborhood changes. Here's one example, black people speak to you when you walk down the street. When you don't speak it feels disrespectful. Many white people don't speak. They just don't. There have been articles about this. They walk into their homes and don't interact with the neighbors. That is a cultural thing. Older black people sit on their porches.

It's not good or bad, it's just different. When young white people move into black neighborhoods, they don't always take the time to understand the culture of the neighborhood. This is not all white people, but it's many. That is not a racist statement, it just points out differences.

It's sad that by just pointing out differences, you are immediately labeled a racist. How about you get to know our culture. If you are black in America, you understand white culture, but the reverse is not always true.

I don't assume that I understand Latino culture (of course depending on where you are from that differs) or Indian culture or Asian culture. I like that there are differences and love learning. How is that racist?

Imagine a white Italian American writing the same OP-ed lamenting the fact about Latino people using their library, because Little Italy in Baltimore and many other cities has been transformed pretty much entirely by a huge influx of Hispanic residents.

So let me get this straight - white people move in = racism, because of gentrification. White people move out = racism, because of white flight. White people move into the city, but stick with themselves = racism, because the city is segregated.

So where exactly are people supposed to live? Gentrification can also be GOOD, because many black Americans can start acquiring intergenerational wealth once they are able to cash in on the explosion in real estate prices.

It's white people moving into spaces that became black because there was no where else for these folks to live. Now these same places are desirable so white people want to move in. With that comes housing appreciation (which I understand can be great for some) and a cultural change in the neighborhood. It's not about the white people being racist. It's about culture. I guess she underestimated the ability white people to understand nuance.

I would have been fine if she had written that. But she didn't. What she wrote was that the sight of one and only one white couple looking at her little library upset her. The title of her article is "does my little library increase gentrification". She provides no evidence that it either does or does not. All she shows is that she wants to air every thought she has in the NY times, whether or not those thoughts lead to a useful dialogue. That white couple did no harm. That white couple may or may not have been gentrifiers. Maybe one of them is from a mixed race family, and they were visiting their sister of color. She gives us an anecdote that has no meaning and contributes nothing to any dialogue on race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I, unlike most of you, spent the time to read the op ed. There was NOTHING racist about what she said. Inglewood is one of the remaining majority black neighborhoods in LA. It was black because white people didn't want to live there. Now that LA is expensive, white people want to come back. This article is about gentrification. I get it.

The reality is that a neighborhood changes when white people move in. Some of it is good and some of it is bad. More services come, but that sense of community goes away. That is not a racist statement. My white friends who live in older black neighborhoods talk about young white people moving in all the time. They hate it. The culture of the neighborhood changes. Here's one example, black people speak to you when you walk down the street. When you don't speak it feels disrespectful. Many white people don't speak. They just don't. There have been articles about this. They walk into their homes and don't interact with the neighbors. That is a cultural thing. Older black people sit on their porches.

It's not good or bad, it's just different. When young white people move into black neighborhoods, they don't always take the time to understand the culture of the neighborhood. This is not all white people, but it's many. That is not a racist statement, it just points out differences.

It's sad that by just pointing out differences, you are immediately labeled a racist. How about you get to know our culture. If you are black in America, you understand white culture, but the reverse is not always true.

I don't assume that I understand Latino culture (of course depending on where you are from that differs) or Indian culture or Asian culture. I like that there are differences and love learning. How is that racist?

Yeah, those are pretty sweeping generalizations to make of an entire group of people, but sure. White people ruin everything and we should effectively ban gentrification, or at least force people to comply with certain standards of conversation before they can move in to a neighborhood. I also agree with the author that we should segregate those little libraries for only certain people. Congratulations on winning this debate. This all helps the issue of race in America.

You are really pathetic. Those aren't generalizations. What is wrong with pointing out that people have different cultures? I would not move into a Latino neighborhood and not take the time to learn about that neighborhood. That's not racist. Ignoring race will not help America. That's what we've been trying to do and it doesn't work. I actually don't want to leave my race the door. I like being black and the culture that comes with that. My best friend is Mexican. I LOVE hanging out with her family. Good times, but different than mine. Her husband is Korean. Same. Kimchi anyone. I love that.

It would benefit you to stop being so angry and maybe try to get to know your neighbor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I, unlike most of you, spent the time to read the op ed. There was NOTHING racist about what she said. Inglewood is one of the remaining majority black neighborhoods in LA. It was black because white people didn't want to live there. Now that LA is expensive, white people want to come back. This article is about gentrification. I get it.

The reality is that a neighborhood changes when white people move in. Some of it is good and some of it is bad. More services come, but that sense of community goes away. That is not a racist statement. My white friends who live in older black neighborhoods talk about young white people moving in all the time. They hate it. The culture of the neighborhood changes. Here's one example, black people speak to you when you walk down the street. When you don't speak it feels disrespectful. Many white people don't speak. They just don't. There have been articles about this. They walk into their homes and don't interact with the neighbors. That is a cultural thing. Older black people sit on their porches.

It's not good or bad, it's just different. When young white people move into black neighborhoods, they don't always take the time to understand the culture of the neighborhood. This is not all white people, but it's many. That is not a racist statement, it just points out differences.

It's sad that by just pointing out differences, you are immediately labeled a racist. How about you get to know our culture. If you are black in America, you understand white culture, but the reverse is not always true.

I don't assume that I understand Latino culture (of course depending on where you are from that differs) or Indian culture or Asian culture. I like that there are differences and love learning. How is that racist?

Imagine a white Italian American writing the same OP-ed lamenting the fact about Latino people using their library, because Little Italy in Baltimore and many other cities has been transformed pretty much entirely by a huge influx of Hispanic residents.

So let me get this straight - white people move in = racism, because of gentrification. White people move out = racism, because of white flight. White people move into the city, but stick with themselves = racism, because the city is segregated.

So where exactly are people supposed to live? Gentrification can also be GOOD, because many black Americans can start acquiring intergenerational wealth once they are able to cash in on the explosion in real estate prices.

It's white people moving into spaces that became black because there was no where else for these folks to live. Now these same places are desirable so white people want to move in. With that comes housing appreciation (which I understand can be great for some) and a cultural change in the neighborhood. It's not about the white people being racist. It's about culture. I guess she underestimated the ability white people to understand nuance.

Nah, the author is just an idiot lamenting change. As if things should always stay the same. Probably the same types who shake their fist in the air because no one uses maps anymore since they use GPS. Or gets angry because back the day they used to walk 10 miles in a blizzard to school while the youths of today have it so cushy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I, unlike most of you, spent the time to read the op ed. There was NOTHING racist about what she said. Inglewood is one of the remaining majority black neighborhoods in LA. It was black because white people didn't want to live there. Now that LA is expensive, white people want to come back. This article is about gentrification. I get it.

The reality is that a neighborhood changes when white people move in. Some of it is good and some of it is bad. More services come, but that sense of community goes away. That is not a racist statement. My white friends who live in older black neighborhoods talk about young white people moving in all the time. They hate it. The culture of the neighborhood changes. Here's one example, black people speak to you when you walk down the street. When you don't speak it feels disrespectful. Many white people don't speak. They just don't. There have been articles about this. They walk into their homes and don't interact with the neighbors. That is a cultural thing. Older black people sit on their porches.

It's not good or bad, it's just different. When young white people move into black neighborhoods, they don't always take the time to understand the culture of the neighborhood. This is not all white people, but it's many. That is not a racist statement, it just points out differences.

It's sad that by just pointing out differences, you are immediately labeled a racist. How about you get to know our culture. If you are black in America, you understand white culture, but the reverse is not always true.

I don't assume that I understand Latino culture (of course depending on where you are from that differs) or Indian culture or Asian culture. I like that there are differences and love learning. How is that racist?

Yeah, those are pretty sweeping generalizations to make of an entire group of people, but sure. White people ruin everything and we should effectively ban gentrification, or at least force people to comply with certain standards of conversation before they can move in to a neighborhood. I also agree with the author that we should segregate those little libraries for only certain people. Congratulations on winning this debate. This all helps the issue of race in America.

You are really pathetic. Those aren't generalizations. What is wrong with pointing out that people have different cultures? I would not move into a Latino neighborhood and not take the time to learn about that neighborhood. That's not racist. Ignoring race will not help America. That's what we've been trying to do and it doesn't work. I actually don't want to leave my race the door. I like being black and the culture that comes with that. My best friend is Mexican. I LOVE hanging out with her family. Good times, but different than mine. Her husband is Korean. Same. Kimchi anyone. I love that.

It would benefit you to stop being so angry and maybe try to get to know your neighbor.

but she did not point that out. She pointed out that both people of color and white people like little libraries. Did you read the article? There was nothing in there about the couple doing anything jarring to black culture.