Forbes 2021 College Rankings

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Interesting. 3 publics in top 15 and they are all from CA - Berkeley, UCLA, and UCSD.

Just take a look at the diversity in the student population at these schools. This goes a long way in explaining why for the first time a public university is #1.


https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/university-of-california-berkeley/student-life/diversity/#overview

[Anonymous]

Cal State Long Beach is ranked ahead of Harvey Mudd? Nope.

[Anonymous]

1. University of California, Berkeley
2. Yale University
3. Princeton University
4. Stanford University
5. Columbia University
6. Massachusetts Institute of Technology
7. Harvard University
8. University of California, Los Angeles
9. University of Pennsylvania
10. Northwestern University
11. Dartmouth College
12. Duke University
13. Cornell University
14. Vanderbilt University
15. University of California, San Diego
16. Amherst College
17. University of Southern California
18. Williams College
19. Pomona College
20. University of California, Davis
21. Georgetown University
22. University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
23. University of Chicago
24. Rice University
25. University of Florida
26. Brown University
27. University of Washington, Seattle
28. University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
29. United States Military Academy
30. University of Virginia
31. University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
32. Wellesley College
33. Washington University in St. Louis
34. Georgia Institute of Technology
35. Emory University
36. Bowdoin College
37. Johns Hopkins University
38. Tufts University
39. University of California, Santa Barbara
40. California Institute of Technology
41. University of Notre Dame
42. University of Maryland, College Park
43. Swarthmore College
44. Middlebury College
45. University of Texas, Austin
46. Claremont McKenna College
47. University of California, Irvine
48. Colgate University
49. Carnegie Mellon University
50. Texas A&M University, College Station

[Anonymous]

So if a school has large numbers of students who go on to work in education, social work, publishing/journalism, or the arts, their ranking will suffer because of the importance of salary.

If you graduate a lot of ibankers, engineers, and tech bros, you do better.

[Anonymous]

Sorted by salary

1. Harvey Mudd College
CA
Private
$37,542
$5,870
$162,500

2.
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
MA
Private
$49,775
$8,568
$158,100

3. United States Naval Academy
MD
Public
$152,600

4. Princeton University
NJ
Private
$52,188
$3,888
$150,500

5. California Institute of Technology
CA
Private
$44,646
$6,596
$150,300

6. Harvard University
MA
Private
$55,455
$5,770
$147,700

7. Stanford University
CA
Private
$54,808
$8,205
$147,100

8. Santa Clara University
CA
Private
$29,367
$7,732
$146,300

9. United States Military Academy
NY
Public
$146,300

10. Babson College
MA
Private
$42,103
$9,084
$146,200

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So if a school has large numbers of students who go on to work in education, social work, publishing/journalism, or the arts, their ranking will suffer because of the importance of salary.

If you graduate a lot of ibankers, engineers, and tech bros, you do better.

Well, not quite, because number 10-ranked Northwestern has a relatively huge proportion of grads who go into journalism, the arts, and music, but is still highly ranked. I can't tell you why that is, however.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So if a school has large numbers of students who go on to work in education, social work, publishing/journalism, or the arts, their ranking will suffer because of the importance of salary.

If you graduate a lot of ibankers, engineers, and tech bros, you do better.

Well, not quite, because number 10-ranked Northwestern has a relatively huge proportion of grads who go into journalism, the arts, and music, but is still highly ranked. I can't tell you why that is, however.

Schools near big cities will have higher earning alumni.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So if a school has large numbers of students who go on to work in education, social work, publishing/journalism, or the arts, their ranking will suffer because of the importance of salary.

If you graduate a lot of ibankers, engineers, and tech bros, you do better.

Well, not quite, because number 10-ranked Northwestern has a relatively huge proportion of grads who go into journalism, the arts, and music, but is still highly ranked. I can't tell you why that is, however.

Schools near big cities will have higher earning alumni.

NYU, meanwhile, is at #80.

[Anonymous]

80 is a high ranking on a list of hundreds and hundreds of options.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
1. University of California, Berkeley
2. Yale University
3. Princeton University
4. Stanford University
5. Columbia University
6. Massachusetts Institute of Technology
7. Harvard University
8. University of California, Los Angeles
9. University of Pennsylvania
10. Northwestern University
11. Dartmouth College
12. Duke University
13. Cornell University
14. Vanderbilt University
15. University of California, San Diego
16. Amherst College
17. University of Southern California
18. Williams College
19. Pomona College
20. University of California, Davis
21. Georgetown University
22. University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
23. University of Chicago
24. Rice University
25. University of Florida
26. Brown University
27. University of Washington, Seattle
28. University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
29. United States Military Academy
30. University of Virginia
31. University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
32. Wellesley College
33. Washington University in St. Louis
34. Georgia Institute of Technology
35. Emory University
36. Bowdoin College
37. Johns Hopkins University
38. Tufts University
39. University of California, Santa Barbara
40. California Institute of Technology
41. University of Notre Dame
42. University of Maryland, College Park
43. Swarthmore College
44. Middlebury College
45. University of Texas, Austin
46. Claremont McKenna College
47. University of California, Irvine
48. Colgate University
49. Carnegie Mellon University
50. Texas A&M University, College Station

Joke list. There is NO way schools like Amherst, UVA, and Florida are better than schools like Hopkins, CMU, or CalTech. No way..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
1. University of California, Berkeley
2. Yale University
3. Princeton University
4. Stanford University
5. Columbia University
6. Massachusetts Institute of Technology
7. Harvard University
8. University of California, Los Angeles
9. University of Pennsylvania
10. Northwestern University
11. Dartmouth College
12. Duke University
13. Cornell University
14. Vanderbilt University
15. University of California, San Diego
16. Amherst College
17. University of Southern California
18. Williams College
19. Pomona College
20. University of California, Davis
21. Georgetown University
22. University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
23. University of Chicago
24. Rice University
25. University of Florida
26. Brown University
27. University of Washington, Seattle
28. University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
29. United States Military Academy
30. University of Virginia
31. University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
32. Wellesley College
33. Washington University in St. Louis
34. Georgia Institute of Technology
35. Emory University
36. Bowdoin College
37. Johns Hopkins University
38. Tufts University
39. University of California, Santa Barbara
40. California Institute of Technology
41. University of Notre Dame
42. University of Maryland, College Park
43. Swarthmore College
44. Middlebury College
45. University of Texas, Austin
46. Claremont McKenna College
47. University of California, Irvine
48. Colgate University
49. Carnegie Mellon University
50. Texas A&M University, College Station

This list has many good options from huge public universities, to ivies to small slacs. Good luck to all in finding a great match.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
1. University of California, Berkeley
2. Yale University
3. Princeton University
4. Stanford University
5. Columbia University
6. Massachusetts Institute of Technology
7. Harvard University
8. University of California, Los Angeles
9. University of Pennsylvania
10. Northwestern University
11. Dartmouth College
12. Duke University
13. Cornell University
14. Vanderbilt University
15. University of California, San Diego
16. Amherst College
17. University of Southern California
18. Williams College
19. Pomona College
20. University of California, Davis
21. Georgetown University
22. University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
23. University of Chicago
24. Rice University
25. University of Florida
26. Brown University
27. University of Washington, Seattle
28. University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
29. United States Military Academy
30. University of Virginia
31. University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
32. Wellesley College
33. Washington University in St. Louis
34. Georgia Institute of Technology
35. Emory University
36. Bowdoin College
37. Johns Hopkins University
38. Tufts University
39. University of California, Santa Barbara
40. California Institute of Technology
41. University of Notre Dame
42. University of Maryland, College Park
43. Swarthmore College
44. Middlebury College
45. University of Texas, Austin
46. Claremont McKenna College
47. University of California, Irvine
48. Colgate University
49. Carnegie Mellon University
50. Texas A&M University, College Station

Joke list. There is NO way schools like Amherst, UVA, and Florida are better than schools like Hopkins, CMU, or CalTech. No way..

Hopkins, cmu and caltech would be poor fits for some students. Stop getting hung up on the exact placement in the list and look at it as a group of good option with enough variety to find something for many different types of students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.forbes.com/top-colleges/

This ranking is a joke!

Translation: "My school didn't do so well."

LOL!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:80 is a high ranking on a list of hundreds and hundreds of options.

Esp since as an expensive private it's going to have the odds working against it. That's actually way higher than I thought it would be--it's essentially saying that on average going to NYU is going to have a higher return on investment than the vast majority of in-state publics!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
1. University of California, Berkeley
2. Yale University
3. Princeton University
4. Stanford University
5. Columbia University
6. Massachusetts Institute of Technology
7. Harvard University
8. University of California, Los Angeles
9. University of Pennsylvania
10. Northwestern University
11. Dartmouth College
12. Duke University
13. Cornell University
14. Vanderbilt University
15. University of California, San Diego
16. Amherst College
17. University of Southern California
18. Williams College
19. Pomona College
20. University of California, Davis
21. Georgetown University
22. University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
23. University of Chicago
24. Rice University
25. University of Florida
26. Brown University
27. University of Washington, Seattle
28. University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
29. United States Military Academy
30. University of Virginia
31. University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
32. Wellesley College
33. Washington University in St. Louis
34. Georgia Institute of Technology
35. Emory University
36. Bowdoin College
37. Johns Hopkins University
38. Tufts University
39. University of California, Santa Barbara
40. California Institute of Technology
41. University of Notre Dame
42. University of Maryland, College Park
43. Swarthmore College
44. Middlebury College
45. University of Texas, Austin
46. Claremont McKenna College
47. University of California, Irvine
48. Colgate University
49. Carnegie Mellon University
50. Texas A&M University, College Station

This list has many good options from huge public universities, to ivies to small slacs. Good luck to all in finding a great match.

And in this list, there's little difference in outcomes (salary) if you go to 100 so you don't have to find a match in the top 50.