De Staff

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote: Meaning you may be de-staffed from your assignment, but you’ll be placed somewhere else. You won’t be out of a job is that correct?

Yes.

So you will still have a job, just not your preferred location? Not sure what you are complaint about.

Because it’s disappointing and anxiety inducing. Not sure why you feel the need to make a rude comment. Op I was destaffed and I was so upset about it, but it worked out ok. Better than ok really. I like my new school better. Everyone is really nice and it is a better fit for me. I would have been fine staying at my old school too, but I am very happy at my new school. Good luck to you and I am sure it will be fine.

Yes it’s causing me stress and anxiety. And obviously I wanted to be in this grade at this school. That shouldn’t be hard to understand but I know what I get into asking things like this here.

Thanks for the support.

[Anonymous]

Hang in there, OP. This time of year has so much anxiety for teachers, and not knowing your idiot on really sucks. I’m sorry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Meaning you may be de-staffed from your assignment, but you’ll be placed somewhere else. You won’t be out of a job is that correct?

Yes.

So you will still have a job, just not your preferred location? Not sure what you are complaint about.

I'm a parent, and I would be pissed if I was suddenly told that I would be taking on a completely different job in a completely different location. Wouldn't you?

Oh wait, you probably don't have a job so you don't understand this whole employment thing. Maybe hubby-hubs can explain it to you, honey.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Its always an issue at our school. Its an AAP center but a small one. One grade level for the past few years has had two 18-19 kids classes (both AAP) and almost 30 in the general ed. One grade level has had a class of 17 AAP kids and the general ed classes are at 28. Its not good but there's no solution with the way FCPS allocates the staffing.

What is most annoying is when you have to destaff one year and the next year rehire a person for that same spot because enrollment slightly changed. It’s so disruptive and bad for morale and the kids hate it when a teacher they love has to go to be basing these decisions on yearly small fluctuations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The staffing formula for classroom teachers is the problem, especially 1-6. They just give principals a number of teachers based off total from 1-6. The principal then gets to decide how to allocate. That is why you can gave grades with classes 28-31 and others with 18-22. The staffing formula should be by grade level. Example- if 5th grade has 85 kids they could have three classes of 28-29 kids or 4 classes of about 21-22. The needs per grade level vary too. Some years we gave gad a ton of sped/esol in a grade and the next year a smaller amount.

There's also the AAP component. In our school, the AAP class has 18-20 kids and the regular classes have almost 30 kids. It's incredibly unfair and I wish they'd get rid of LLIV and go back to having only centers. LLIV is a waste.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Meaning you may be de-staffed from your assignment, but you’ll be placed somewhere else. You won’t be out of a job is that correct?

Yes.

So you will still have a job, just not your preferred location? Not sure what you are complaint about.

I'm a parent, and I would be pissed if I was suddenly told that I would be taking on a completely different job in a completely different location. Wouldn't you?

Oh wait, you probably don't have a job so you don't understand this whole employment thing. Maybe hubby-hubs can explain it to you, honey.

Yes it’s very anxiety inducing. As bad as having no job, of course not, but not knowing which school you’ll end up at or having to work at one you don’t want to just because that’s where the district stuck you is sucky.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The staffing formula for classroom teachers is the problem, especially 1-6. They just give principals a number of teachers based off total from 1-6. The principal then gets to decide how to allocate. That is why you can gave grades with classes 28-31 and others with 18-22. The staffing formula should be by grade level. Example- if 5th grade has 85 kids they could have three classes of 28-29 kids or 4 classes of about 21-22. The needs per grade level vary too. Some years we gave gad a ton of sped/esol in a grade and the next year a smaller amount.

There's also the AAP component. In our school, the AAP class has 18-20 kids and the regular classes have almost 30 kids. It's incredibly unfair and I wish they'd get rid of LLIV and go back to having only centers. LLIV is a waste.

This too. And AAP parents will be like “oh my kid scored this on this assessment” - yeah, more kids could do that if they weren’t in a class with 29 kids, 15 of whom have an IEP. Class size matters tremendously yet the advanced classes are small and Gen Ed are big.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I got hired before the school year ended and I’ve been warned this week that I might be de staffed. I am really nervous and upset for a variety of reasons.

Has anyone been through this and it turned out OK? I’m unsure about so much of it, also for a variety of reasons. A lot of “what if?”

And I just signed my contract so now I’m at the mercy of FCPS and their games.

I was destaffed once. I was placed at a great school. If you don’t get a school you want then you just need to do a good job to get a good reference and wait it out for a year. You can transfer to a different school for the following year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The staffing formula for classroom teachers is the problem, especially 1-6. They just give principals a number of teachers based off total from 1-6. The principal then gets to decide how to allocate. That is why you can gave grades with classes 28-31 and others with 18-22. The staffing formula should be by grade level. Example- if 5th grade has 85 kids they could have three classes of 28-29 kids or 4 classes of about 21-22. The needs per grade level vary too. Some years we gave gad a ton of sped/esol in a grade and the next year a smaller amount.

There's also the AAP component. In our school, the AAP class has 18-20 kids and the regular classes have almost 30 kids. It's incredibly unfair and I wish they'd get rid of LLIV and go back to having only centers. LLIV is a waste.

This too. And AAP parents will be like “oh my kid scored this on this assessment” - yeah, more kids could do that if they weren’t in a class with 29 kids, 15 of whom have an IEP. Class size matters tremendously yet the advanced classes are small and Gen Ed are big.

For al this talk of equity, I find it irritating that FCPS prioritizes the AAP kids over everyone else. The reason that low income, learning disabled, and english language learners aren't doing so well is because they are pouring unnecessary money into advanced academics when it needs to be going to kids who really need help, not just kids who aren't feeling challenged enough.

Queue the AAP mom who is going to talk about how her kids needs the extra emphasis on PBL and critical thinking, blah blah.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I got hired before the school year ended and I’ve been warned this week that I might be de staffed. I am really nervous and upset for a variety of reasons.

Has anyone been through this and it turned out OK? I’m unsure about so much of it, also for a variety of reasons. A lot of “what if?”

And I just signed my contract so now I’m at the mercy of FCPS and their games.

I was destaffed once. I was placed at a great school. If you don’t get a school you want then you just need to do a good job to get a good reference and wait it out for a year. You can transfer to a different school for the following year.

I know. I guess it’s just frustrating because I wanted to be at this school and a lot of factors worked out with commute and timing to make it easier with having my own kids in school. I don’t want to be sent to a school with a 45 min commute and make it all more stressful for our family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The staffing formula for classroom teachers is the problem, especially 1-6. They just give principals a number of teachers based off total from 1-6. The principal then gets to decide how to allocate. That is why you can gave grades with classes 28-31 and others with 18-22. The staffing formula should be by grade level. Example- if 5th grade has 85 kids they could have three classes of 28-29 kids or 4 classes of about 21-22. The needs per grade level vary too. Some years we gave gad a ton of sped/esol in a grade and the next year a smaller amount.

There's also the AAP component. In our school, the AAP class has 18-20 kids and the regular classes have almost 30 kids. It's incredibly unfair and I wish they'd get rid of LLIV and go back to having only centers. LLIV is a waste.

This too. And AAP parents will be like “oh my kid scored this on this assessment” - yeah, more kids could do that if they weren’t in a class with 29 kids, 15 of whom have an IEP. Class size matters tremendously yet the advanced classes are small and Gen Ed are big.

For al this talk of equity, I find it irritating that FCPS prioritizes the AAP kids over everyone else. The reason that low income, learning disabled, and english language learners aren't doing so well is because they are pouring unnecessary money into advanced academics when it needs to be going to kids who really need help, not just kids who aren't feeling challenged enough.

Queue the AAP mom who is going to talk about how her kids needs the extra emphasis on PBL and critical thinking, blah blah.

It's amazing how much better the teaching is when a teacher has a third less kids

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The staffing formula for classroom teachers is the problem, especially 1-6. They just give principals a number of teachers based off total from 1-6. The principal then gets to decide how to allocate. That is why you can gave grades with classes 28-31 and others with 18-22. The staffing formula should be by grade level. Example- if 5th grade has 85 kids they could have three classes of 28-29 kids or 4 classes of about 21-22. The needs per grade level vary too. Some years we gave gad a ton of sped/esol in a grade and the next year a smaller amount.

There's also the AAP component. In our school, the AAP class has 18-20 kids and the regular classes have almost 30 kids. It's incredibly unfair and I wish they'd get rid of LLIV and go back to having only centers. LLIV is a waste.

This too. And AAP parents will be like “oh my kid scored this on this assessment” - yeah, more kids could do that if they weren’t in a class with 29 kids, 15 of whom have an IEP. Class size matters tremendously yet the advanced classes are small and Gen Ed are big.

For al this talk of equity, I find it irritating that FCPS prioritizes the AAP kids over everyone else. The reason that low income, learning disabled, and english language learners aren't doing so well is because they are pouring unnecessary money into advanced academics when it needs to be going to kids who really need help, not just kids who aren't feeling challenged enough.

Queue the AAP mom who is going to talk about how her kids needs the extra emphasis on PBL and critical thinking, blah blah.

Okay. Try this. Queue the UMC AAP parents who would move their kids out of FCPS without AAP, either to a different school system that prioritized GT, or private. How well do you think FCPs does if there is an exodus of the UMC highly educated families?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The staffing formula for classroom teachers is the problem, especially 1-6. They just give principals a number of teachers based off total from 1-6. The principal then gets to decide how to allocate. That is why you can gave grades with classes 28-31 and others with 18-22. The staffing formula should be by grade level. Example- if 5th grade has 85 kids they could have three classes of 28-29 kids or 4 classes of about 21-22. The needs per grade level vary too. Some years we gave gad a ton of sped/esol in a grade and the next year a smaller amount.

There's also the AAP component. In our school, the AAP class has 18-20 kids and the regular classes have almost 30 kids. It's incredibly unfair and I wish they'd get rid of LLIV and go back to having only centers. LLIV is a waste.

This too. And AAP parents will be like “oh my kid scored this on this assessment” - yeah, more kids could do that if they weren’t in a class with 29 kids, 15 of whom have an IEP. Class size matters tremendously yet the advanced classes are small and Gen Ed are big.

For al this talk of equity, I find it irritating that FCPS prioritizes the AAP kids over everyone else. The reason that low income, learning disabled, and english language learners aren't doing so well is because they are pouring unnecessary money into advanced academics when it needs to be going to kids who really need help, not just kids who aren't feeling challenged enough.

Queue the AAP mom who is going to talk about how her kids needs the extra emphasis on PBL and critical thinking, blah blah.

It's amazing how much better the teaching is when a teacher has a third less kids

Exactly. For any grades. Wouldn’t it be better to have 4 classes with 18 than 3 with 24 or 25?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I got hired before the school year ended and I’ve been warned this week that I might be de staffed. I am really nervous and upset for a variety of reasons.

Has anyone been through this and it turned out OK? I’m unsure about so much of it, also for a variety of reasons. A lot of “what if?”

And I just signed my contract so now I’m at the mercy of FCPS and their games.

I was destaffed once. I was placed at a great school. If you don’t get a school you want then you just need to do a good job to get a good reference and wait it out for a year. You can transfer to a different school for the following year.

I know. I guess it’s just frustrating because I wanted to be at this school and a lot of factors worked out with commute and timing to make it easier with having my own kids in school. I don’t want to be sent to a school with a 45 min commute and make it all more stressful for our family.

I get it, but that school is no longer an option. You may be surprised by how good the new school is for you once you start.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The staffing formula for classroom teachers is the problem, especially 1-6. They just give principals a number of teachers based off total from 1-6. The principal then gets to decide how to allocate. That is why you can gave grades with classes 28-31 and others with 18-22. The staffing formula should be by grade level. Example- if 5th grade has 85 kids they could have three classes of 28-29 kids or 4 classes of about 21-22. The needs per grade level vary too. Some years we gave gad a ton of sped/esol in a grade and the next year a smaller amount.

There's also the AAP component. In our school, the AAP class has 18-20 kids and the regular classes have almost 30 kids. It's incredibly unfair and I wish they'd get rid of LLIV and go back to having only centers. LLIV is a waste.

This too. And AAP parents will be like “oh my kid scored this on this assessment” - yeah, more kids could do that if they weren’t in a class with 29 kids, 15 of whom have an IEP. Class size matters tremendously yet the advanced classes are small and Gen Ed are big.

For al this talk of equity, I find it irritating that FCPS prioritizes the AAP kids over everyone else. The reason that low income, learning disabled, and english language learners aren't doing so well is because they are pouring unnecessary money into advanced academics when it needs to be going to kids who really need help, not just kids who aren't feeling challenged enough.

Queue the AAP mom who is going to talk about how her kids needs the extra emphasis on PBL and critical thinking, blah blah.

Okay. Try this. Queue the UMC AAP parents who would move their kids out of FCPS without AAP, either to a different school system that prioritized GT, or private. How well do you think FCPs does if there is an exodus of the UMC highly educated families?

Hasn’t happened and won’t. This is not a threat.