Mayor Bowser calling for more police and more police funding

[Anonymous]

Red Line, Green Line

[Anonymous]

once we have more (and more professional) cops around, it will be abundantly clear that the prosecutors aren't doing their jobs.
I'm all for more funding of edumuhcation and mental health services, its needed. But until the payoff from that can show up, we need boots on the street. Professionally trained boots who handle people the right way and dont spark more freaking riots. That a-hole in Minneapolis who kneeled on that man is indirectly responsible for many, many deaths during riots and as a result of less policing. People like him do not belong in uniform, it endangers us all.

[Anonymous]

A lot of things should be decriminalized.

Gun violence should be hyper-criminalized. Mandatory minimums when convicted of a gun crime. No bail for people who commit crimes using guns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of things should be decriminalized.

Gun violence should be hyper-criminalized. Mandatory minimums when convicted of a gun crime. No bail for people who commit crimes using guns.

Agreed. Not a big fan of carjacking either even though usually no one gets hurt. Maryland suburbs need stricter sentencing as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of things should be decriminalized.

Gun violence should be hyper-criminalized. Mandatory minimums when convicted of a gun crime. No bail for people who commit crimes using guns.

Agreed. Not a big fan of carjacking either even though usually no one gets hurt. Maryland suburbs need stricter sentencing as well.

If your goal is to deter criminals, we know longer sentences don't work. The type of person who kills a kid doesn't think - Oh my, I will get a life sentence if I pull this trigger - before they commit a crime. You get one off the street but continue to breed others. I really want to understand the gaps and failures in our system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of things should be decriminalized.

Gun violence should be hyper-criminalized. Mandatory minimums when convicted of a gun crime. No bail for people who commit crimes using guns.

Agreed. Not a big fan of carjacking either even though usually no one gets hurt. Maryland suburbs need stricter sentencing as well.

If your goal is to deter criminals, we know longer sentences don't work. The type of person who kills a kid doesn't think - Oh my, I will get a life sentence if I pull this trigger - before they commit a crime. You get one off the street but continue to breed others. I really want to understand the gaps and failures in our system.

Well, no.

Criminology research has shown that that swift and certain punishments work better as a deterrent than infrequent, highly punitive ones.

http://nnscommunities.org/our-work/strategy/swift-certain-fair

I would argue that people who commit gun crimes today in DC are infrequently punished, and if they are punished it's for short periods of time. Would people think twice about using a gun illegally if they knew the certainty of punishment (like, say, they knew they would be sent away for a period of time without possibility of parole)? I think it's something that should be considered. Right now, there's zero deterrent for using a gun illegally because the people who do so know there's a solid chance they will be back on the street quickly, without any meaningful punishment, so crime is a chance worth taking.

The man who is accused of killing that 6-year-old girl was free despite facing multiple gun charges. Why was he walking the street?

[Anonymous]

I thought police were evil, racist oppressors? Now cops are good again?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of things should be decriminalized.

Gun violence should be hyper-criminalized. Mandatory minimums when convicted of a gun crime. No bail for people who commit crimes using guns.

Agreed. Not a big fan of carjacking either even though usually no one gets hurt. Maryland suburbs need stricter sentencing as well.

If your goal is to deter criminals, we know longer sentences don't work. The type of person who kills a kid doesn't think - Oh my, I will get a life sentence if I pull this trigger - before they commit a crime. You get one off the street but continue to breed others. I really want to understand the gaps and failures in our system.

It isn't about deterring criminals with the threat of a long sentence when they have the gun in their hand. It's about taking career criminals off the streets, at least until they are elderly and pose relatively little threat. We know that a small number of people are responsible for most of the gun crime in cities. These people have generally been arrested multiple times before, and often incarcerated, although not always. Three strikes laws have gotten a bad rap, but if applied to violent offenses, "three strikes and you're out" makes perfect sense to me.

[Anonymous]

The swift and certain punishment would have to extend to juveniles, who are unfortunately frequently (and sometimes murderous) offenders here in DC. Cops just caught an armed carjacker from the other day who stuck a gun in a woman' face and stole her car. 13 years old:

https://mobile.twitter.com/EvanLambertTV/status/1420802962520166403

I know people say, "That is such a shame" but what it really is is proof of the breakdown of families and a culture that glorifies violence and thuggery. So the only shame is that there are few consequences for teenagers who behave this way, so they keep on doing it. And, as many people have asked on these threads, Where the hell are these kids' parents??

[Anonymous]

Excellent.

- D.C. resident here

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

It's more complex. I used to be the COO of OSSE. I really don't know where all the education money goes. We also need housing and mental health services.

What we need is the political will to tell people to parent their children. To tell women not to have multiple children by multiple men to whom they are not married when neither parent has the education or job skills to take care of their children.
What we KNOW is that finishing high school and delaying child-bearing until you are an employed adult is the way out of poverty. Bonus points for getting married and staying married in terms of beneficial outcomes for kids.
Do we need programs that help people who failed to make those prudent life choices? Yes. But we also need for politicians to be very vocal about what society's expectations are in terms of people getting themselves together. Instead, all DC politicians do is blame "the other"---schools, gentrifiers, systemic racism---without every uttering a single word about personal responsibility.

In the current climate? Yeah fking right. You’d be canceled so quick. Everyone is in the scolding stage. I don’t think we’ll ever get to the honesty stage where you can actually call people out to and just say “hey stop making stupid decisions. Stop blaming external forces. You need some self accountability and to give a fk if your kids can read and write.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The swift and certain punishment would have to extend to juveniles, who are unfortunately frequently (and sometimes murderous) offenders here in DC. Cops just caught an armed carjacker from the other day who stuck a gun in a woman' face and stole her car. 13 years old:

https://mobile.twitter.com/EvanLambertTV/status/1420802962520166403

I know people say, "That is such a shame" but what it really is is proof of the breakdown of families and a culture that glorifies violence and thuggery. So the only shame is that there are few consequences for teenagers who behave this way, so they keep on doing it. And, as many people have asked on these threads, Where the hell are these kids' parents??

The same place the parents are whose teen son shot and murdered two classmates in Springfield

https://www.insidenova.com/news/crime_police/springfield-man-charged-with-killing-two-teenagers-over-social-media-beef/article_143a8c6c-a6b6-11eb-a99a-472e3a90894c.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's more complex. I used to be the COO of OSSE. I really don't know where all the education money goes. We also need housing and mental health services.

What we need is the political will to tell people to parent their children. To tell women not to have multiple children by multiple men to whom they are not married when neither parent has the education or job skills to take care of their children.
What we KNOW is that finishing high school and delaying child-bearing until you are an employed adult is the way out of poverty. Bonus points for getting married and staying married in terms of beneficial outcomes for kids.
Do we need programs that help people who failed to make those prudent life choices? Yes. But we also need for politicians to be very vocal about what society's expectations are in terms of people getting themselves together. Instead, all DC politicians do is blame "the other"---schools, gentrifiers, systemic racism---without every uttering a single word about personal responsibility.

+1. Absolutely. The kids who are carjacking and committing armed robberies at age 13 aren’t doing it because of systemic racism.

Yes they absolutely are.

Why do you think they don't have strong parent figures to show them right from wrong? Why do you think they don't care about consequences because they feel they have nothing to lose?

Because we incarcerate black people at a disproportionate rate and give them disproportionate sentences compared to other races. Because applicants with black sounding names are 50% less likely to receive a callback despite submitting an identical resume as someone with a white sounding name. Because for decades we denied black people home loans and redlined them out of many parts of the city, concentrating poverty and denying them the single greatest wealth-builder in the world. Because we concentrate public and affordable housing in the ghettos created by that redlining which perpetuates the cycle of poverty and creates long commutes for residents - time they could be spending with their kids. Because we introduced crack into their communities to fund illegal operations in South America. Because we allowed their communities to become food deserts, making it harder for developing kids to get proper nutrition.

It's literally ALL because of systemic racism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think this is a good thing!

Source?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's more complex. I used to be the COO of OSSE. I really don't know where all the education money goes. We also need housing and mental health services.

What we need is the political will to tell people to parent their children. To tell women not to have multiple children by multiple men to whom they are not married when neither parent has the education or job skills to take care of their children.
What we KNOW is that finishing high school and delaying child-bearing until you are an employed adult is the way out of poverty. Bonus points for getting married and staying married in terms of beneficial outcomes for kids.
Do we need programs that help people who failed to make those prudent life choices? Yes. But we also need for politicians to be very vocal about what society's expectations are in terms of people getting themselves together. Instead, all DC politicians do is blame "the other"---schools, gentrifiers, systemic racism---without every uttering a single word about personal responsibility.

+1. Absolutely. The kids who are carjacking and committing armed robberies at age 13 aren’t doing it because of systemic racism.

Yes they absolutely are.

Why do you think they don't have strong parent figures to show them right from wrong? Why do you think they don't care about consequences because they feel they have nothing to lose?

Because we incarcerate black people at a disproportionate rate and give them disproportionate sentences compared to other races. Because applicants with black sounding names are 50% less likely to receive a callback despite submitting an identical resume as someone with a white sounding name. Because for decades we denied black people home loans and redlined them out of many parts of the city, concentrating poverty and denying them the single greatest wealth-builder in the world. Because we concentrate public and affordable housing in the ghettos created by that redlining which perpetuates the cycle of poverty and creates long commutes for residents - time they could be spending with their kids. Because we introduced crack into their communities to fund illegal operations in South America. Because we allowed their communities to become food deserts, making it harder for developing kids to get proper nutrition.

It's literally ALL because of systemic racism.

I mean it’s clear we arrest at disproportionate rates, but isn’t that also a product of the disproportionate rates of crimes being committed?