A data-backed approach to understand the TJ Admissions Process

[Anonymous]

Ultimately, the Supreme Court will strike this new admissions system down. Might be five years from now, though.

[Anonymous]

Does 2e qualify for experience factor

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Anonymous wrote:We've gone from an environment where Asian families who were proud and hard-working typically didn't apply for FARMS even when eligible to one in which the poverty of a student's family matters more than a student's talent or achievements.

Congratulations, FCPS.

it will be fun to see if that myth is true or not. I highly doubt it has any basis in reality outside of anecdotes, but time will tell

When you say "time will tell," you're missing the point. Of course Asian families are now incentivized to hide their kids' ethnicity, say they need FARMS, and send their kids to a school like Whitman or Glasgow. FCPS is telling families they should be ashamed of having an Asian kid at Carson from a family that doesn't depend on public assistance.

[Anonymous]

Can't you parents just be satisfied with what you have? Why all the angling and scheming? This is nonsense. You have lost sight of the big picture.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is a data driven “Experience Factor?” How does a UMC kid in Fairfax who had faced no adversity get this factor?

Well, one prep center is advising parents how how to get an experimacs factor. Have parents separate and mom (Sahm) gets full custody and bam! Low income. Or lie in FARMS. Move to another middle school.

Getting an IEP/504 is actually harder than it seems, so that one doesn’t see to be as easy to game.

I doubt many would do that. But then again I never would have thought so many families would send their kids to actual prep centers starting in elementary school.

Still, I think this is a step forward. And if cheaters cannot control themselves TJ is just going to close.

This. I'm not sure the cheater care, though. If they can't game the system, then burn it all down. They will still live in the better-resourced pyramids, so it's a win-win for them.

On another thread, multiple people discussed how Curie got 90 seats in the class of 2025. This is down from 133 in the class of 2024, but still incredibly high. I truly think there are many parents that will do anything to make TJ happen for their kids.

Prep centers will become more popular.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can't you parents just be satisfied with what you have? Why all the angling and scheming? This is nonsense. You have lost sight of the big picture.

I think I am now in the camp of shutting down TJ. It is just too divisive now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is a data driven “Experience Factor?” How does a UMC kid in Fairfax who had faced no adversity get this factor?

Well, one prep center is advising parents how how to get an experimacs factor. Have parents separate and mom (Sahm) gets full custody and bam! Low income. Or lie in FARMS. Move to another middle school.

Getting an IEP/504 is actually harder than it seems, so that one doesn’t see to be as easy to game.

All this for … what exactly? Attendance at a high school followed by UVA? Same result from any other high school TJ-qualified kid would have attended.

No.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can't you parents just be satisfied with what you have? Why all the angling and scheming? This is nonsense. You have lost sight of the big picture.

I think I am now in the camp of shutting down TJ. It is just too divisive now.

It's just a symptom of how the clowns on the School Board have made everything divisive and inefficient. While I understand your reaction, the better response is to replace the board, not eliminate the school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is a data driven “Experience Factor?” How does a UMC kid in Fairfax who had faced no adversity get this factor?

Well, one prep center is advising parents how how to get an experimacs factor. Have parents separate and mom (Sahm) gets full custody and bam! Low income. Or lie in FARMS. Move to another middle school.

Getting an IEP/504 is actually harder than it seems, so that one doesn’t see to be as easy to game.

All this for … what exactly? Attendance at a high school followed by UVA? Same result from any other high school TJ-qualified kid would have attended.

As a TJ alumna, I wonder this myself. I had a great experience at TJ and it definitely helped me in some ways, but my friends who didn't get in also have had good life experiences, learned plenty, and done well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ultimately, the Supreme Court will strike this new admissions system down. Might be five years from now, though.

that means striking down UT admissions (which uses the same system) which would mean reversing itself 8 years after a decision. Good luck with that

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can't you parents just be satisfied with what you have? Why all the angling and scheming? This is nonsense. You have lost sight of the big picture.

I think I am now in the camp of shutting down TJ. It is just too divisive now.

It's just a symptom of how the clowns on the School Board have made everything divisive and inefficient. While I understand your reaction, the better response is to replace the board, not eliminate the school.

then the NAACP sues (they were ready to if a change wasn't made) and you go through this all over again. Just closing the school is the easiest solution

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Ultimately, the Supreme Court will strike this new admissions system down. Might be five years from now, though.

that means striking down UT admissions (which uses the same system) which would mean reversing itself 8 years after a decision. Good luck with that

No, this one is different. Either the Harvard case or this one — with what seems to be the stunning decrease in Asian acceptances — will anger at least 5 Justices.

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Anonymous wrote:Can't you parents just be satisfied with what you have? Why all the angling and scheming? This is nonsense. You have lost sight of the big picture.

I think I am now in the camp of shutting down TJ. It is just too divisive now.

It's just a symptom of how the clowns on the School Board have made everything divisive and inefficient. While I understand your reaction, the better response is to replace the board, not eliminate the school.

then the NAACP sues (they were ready to if a change wasn't made) and you go through this all over again. Just closing the school is the easiest solution

Close the school?? After a much awaited and awesome increase in URM admissions? The optics would be horrible — something straight out if the 1950s deep south.

[Anonymous]

The debt of white racism in nova is being paid here by Asian Americans, who had absolutely nothing to do with it. That’s unacceptable.

[Anonymous]

Have they ever defined what "experience" means?

I have a first grader starting in FCPS this fall, and we've checked ESL and "multiracial" on her paperwork just because we could. Our older child was listed as white and a native English speaker simply because we didn't think it'd matter.