Worth Reporting - In-Boundary Fraud?

[Anonymous]

I don't get the sense that anyone in the city government or in individual schools care very much about boundary fraud. They can barley get their act together to go after a small handful of the out of state residency fraud cases happening. I would let it go - not cause its right but because its not worth wasting your time or energy on.

[Anonymous]

look, I enjoy spite as much as the next person, but this is extra work on your part for absolutely no result.

If they have the money to own a second place, they'll just move to that place for a year or claim the homestead exemption there or something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Usually my instinct is to say no, but that's in cases when it's "I saw a child being dropped off in a car with MD plates."

But if they are bragging about it, I'd report them. But first I'd ask them if they understood that it was illegal.

See bottom of this page:

https://osse.dc.gov/service/enrollment-season-supporting-leas-schools

Suspicion of Non-residency
If an LEA/school suspects someone of attending a public school in the District and is not residing in the District, OSSE can be notified through the online tip form.

Are the people OP is talking about living outside of DC or in DC but outside of the in-boundary for the specific school?

I only ask because OSSE says this about reporting -- "OSSE does not investigate District of Columbia Public School boundary issues, only issues of non-residency." Which is kind of a cop out?!?!?! I mean, it would be super easy to flout this rule then, right?

If OSSE does not investigate boundary issues, is it even illegal? I can't imagine they'd say that explicitly unless it's technically not illegal under the regs.

[Anonymous]

I think the only place you can report this is the individual school; OSSE does not investigate this.

[Anonymous]

Waiting to see if they commit tax fraud and then reporting them for that (to DC/IRS) is probably a better way to mess up their lives if that's your goal. You could also tell their mortgage company because if they said they are living there and instead they're renting it out that's fraud.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Waiting to see if they commit tax fraud and then reporting them for that (to DC/IRS) is probably a better way to mess up their lives if that's your goal. You could also tell their mortgage company because if they said they are living there and instead they're renting it out that's fraud.

how do you know what type of mortgage they are taking out (if any)? Unless they are monumentally stupid, they will not claim the apartment as their home for tax purposes

[Anonymous]

If they don’t rent it out until next October, it would be very hard to prove they did not live there for the required month to qualify for IB admission. After one month, they can legally move. Those are the rules. They are silly, but that is what DC has decided to make the rules. It sounds like they know this and are not planning to rent it out right away.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Usually my instinct is to say no, but that's in cases when it's "I saw a child being dropped off in a car with MD plates."

But if they are bragging about it, I'd report them. But first I'd ask them if they understood that it was illegal.

See bottom of this page:

https://osse.dc.gov/service/enrollment-season-supporting-leas-schools

Suspicion of Non-residency
If an LEA/school suspects someone of attending a public school in the District and is not residing in the District, OSSE can be notified through the online tip form.

Are the people OP is talking about living outside of DC or in DC but outside of the in-boundary for the specific school?

I only ask because OSSE says this about reporting -- "OSSE does not investigate District of Columbia Public School boundary issues, only issues of non-residency." Which is kind of a cop out?!?!?! I mean, it would be super easy to flout this rule then, right?

If OSSE does not investigate boundary issues, is it even illegal? I can't imagine they'd say that explicitly unless it's technically not illegal under the regs.

No, it is not illegal. Residency fraud is illegal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If they don’t rent it out until next October, it would be very hard to prove they did not live there for the required month to qualify for IB admission. After one month, they can legally move. Those are the rules. They are silly, but that is what DC has decided to make the rules. It sounds like they know this and are not planning to rent it out right away.

Where did you get the one month requirement? I've never seen or heard that before.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If they don’t rent it out until next October, it would be very hard to prove they did not live there for the required month to qualify for IB admission. After one month, they can legally move. Those are the rules. They are silly, but that is what DC has decided to make the rules. It sounds like they know this and are not planning to rent it out right away.

Yup, or just leave it unrented. The rules are rule; and they are following the rules. You don't like the rules? Take it up with bowser.

Look up the documentation needed; satisfy it and those are the rules:
https://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/2021-22%20School%20Year%20DC%20Residency%20Verification%20Form.pdf

[Anonymous]

Also, for anyone in power to care about enforcement, the premise would be to admit that Desirable Faux IB School is in fact more desirable than Undesirable Actual Home IB School. Everyone knows it, but no one in DC government is going to admit it in public.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Waiting to see if they commit tax fraud and then reporting them for that (to DC/IRS) is probably a better way to mess up their lives if that's your goal. You could also tell their mortgage company because if they said they are living there and instead they're renting it out that's fraud.

how do you know what type of mortgage they are taking out (if any)? Unless they are monumentally stupid, they will not claim the apartment as their home for tax purposes

you don't have to know. you can just send a letter to the mortgage company (you'd know if they had one by checking with the recorder of deeds) and they can investigate. if the goal is to freak out the cheaters and make them realize that their life can be unpleasant if they lie, a letter from the mortgage company or DC OTR could do that even if they wind up not getting punished.

I doubt they'll get punished and I wouldn't put myself in the middle of this, but I'd sure be tempted. It will be interesting to see what address they put in the PTA directory!

[Anonymous]

Not going to lie, this is our fourth year playing the lottery and if we don't get in anywhere, we're considering moving into a 6 month rental then reporting a change of address and moving home when the lease expires. We'd love to buy in bounds eventually, but don't have the savings for it yet and would rather eat the cost of a lease than have to make DC move schools multiple times. It would be expensive, annoying, and uncomfortable, but I'm tired of the lottery and tired of having to settle for mediocre schools. It's by the book and if you don't like it, then too bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Usually my instinct is to say no, but that's in cases when it's "I saw a child being dropped off in a car with MD plates."

But if they are bragging about it, I'd report them. But first I'd ask them if they understood that it was illegal.

See bottom of this page:

https://osse.dc.gov/service/enrollment-season-supporting-leas-schools

Suspicion of Non-residency
If an LEA/school suspects someone of attending a public school in the District and is not residing in the District, OSSE can be notified through the online tip form.

Are the people OP is talking about living outside of DC or in DC but outside of the in-boundary for the specific school?

I only ask because OSSE says this about reporting -- "OSSE does not investigate District of Columbia Public School boundary issues, only issues of non-residency." Which is kind of a cop out?!?!?! I mean, it would be super easy to flout this rule then, right?

Where does it say that??

It says it on the portal for the online Tip form to report out of bounds families.

https://dc-osse-oer.i-sight.com/portal

[Anonymous]

Yes. Report it. Even if nothing is done, report it. I’m so sick of the boundary fraud. In our particular school, it is/was families using grandparent addresses to gain access for prek. We also know of folks letting their nannies use their address to allow children/grandchildren to gain access to DC preK. Meanwhile legit DC residents are on waiting lists 50 deep for a prek spot.