Dog can't be trusted not to run off

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OMG

This is literally the second first thing you teach your dog.

This is a training. There are LIBRARIES field with books on how to train your dog not to run.

First day: my new dog would just run outside if you only tried to open the door..

Few days later: you can open the door as wide as you can, the dog will be sitting one yard from the door
inside and will not make a move! NO words or comments needed.

How do you get there? Through training. You do it yourself. No need for other people.
Just google it or look on youtube.

First thing you teach your kids when you go to swim school - how to float so they won't drawn.

First thing you teach your dog or cat when you get him to your new home - how NOT to escape through
the open door because you will have it sometimes open and they can always dart out.

It takes discipline and prize and sometimes other methods but never cruelty and always smart witty ways.

Lol

My skinny kids can't float. Neither can I. Some things can be taught, other things need to be worked around.

[Anonymous]

OP is your dog approaching other dogs on its jaunt? Not only are cars a safety issue but uncontrolled interactions. Off leash dog running toward a leashed dog sounds like a recipe for disaster.

Do you use the command "place"? Coupled with gating in the home so that the dog can't reach any exterior doors without notice could help.

[Anonymous]

Indoor electric fence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Indoor electric fence.

Genius

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our newest dog is not too new, it has been 2.5 years since adoption.

But she cannot be trusted not to run off. If the front door were left open, she'd run. This has happened a handful of times. We have to kennel her if we are in in and out bringing in groceries. She was an escape artist with an opening in our fence at one point until we secured it. She can't be trusted to be loose anywhere without a fence.

She is high-energy and seems to love us, but loves to run and explore, and doesn't get enough or fast enough daily runs with me. This is a mixed breed terrier type dog.

DH and my other dogs have not been like this. Have you had success getting a dog like this to become more trustworthy to not run off? We've been focused on other various training issues as she is a difficult though sweet dog. The Covid times have been so busy we have not had time for this training issue.

I had a dog like this (adopted) and people who think it's a quick fix have no idea. Even if I tried to just open the door enough for me to squeak out, sometimes I wasn't fast enough. If I had to carry even a bag of groceries in, I would kennel. Securing in my yard only worked for a month at most before he'd find another way out.

Yes, there was training and exercise. No, it didn't really get better. Dog was perfect in every other way and I just had to work around that one issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OMG

This is literally the second first thing you teach your dog.

This is a training. There are LIBRARIES field with books on how to train your dog not to run.

First day: my new dog would just run outside if you only tried to open the door..

Few days later: you can open the door as wide as you can, the dog will be sitting one yard from the door
inside and will not make a move! NO words or comments needed.

How do you get there? Through training. You do it yourself. No need for other people.
Just google it or look on youtube.

First thing you teach your kids when you go to swim school - how to float so they won't drawn.

First thing you teach your dog or cat when you get him to your new home - how NOT to escape through
the open door because you will have it sometimes open and they can always dart out.

It takes discipline and prize and sometimes other methods but never cruelty and always smart witty ways.

good luck with a hunting hound or a sight hound

[Anonymous]

op and pps with runaway dogs, what are the breeds? Husky?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:op and pps with runaway dogs, what are the breeds? Husky?

From Embark:

27.4% Russell-type Terrier
14.8% Labrador Retriever
13.0% Siberian Husky
9.6% Cocker Spaniel
8.8% Shetland Sheepdog
8.7% Australian Cattle Dog
8.3% Golden Retriever
9.4% Supermutt Learn More

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:op and pps with runaway dogs, what are the breeds? Husky?

From Embark:

27.4% Russell-type Terrier
14.8% Labrador Retriever
13.0% Siberian Husky
9.6% Cocker Spaniel
8.8% Shetland Sheepdog
8.7% Australian Cattle Dog
8.3% Golden Retriever
9.4% Supermutt Learn More

I also have a beagle/coon hound who was not nearly so bad (could open a door around her and didn't find ways to escape through the fence) but would never have been trusted off leash. She's now 7 and is actually good enough that I can walk her in the forest-off leash and if she gets out she'll come when called - but it was a long long process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our newest dog is not too new, it has been 2.5 years since adoption.

But she cannot be trusted not to run off. If the front door were left open, she'd run. This has happened a handful of times. We have to kennel her if we are in in and out bringing in groceries. She was an escape artist with an opening in our fence at one point until we secured it. She can't be trusted to be loose anywhere without a fence.

She is high-energy and seems to love us, but loves to run and explore, and doesn't get enough or fast enough daily runs with me. This is a mixed breed terrier type dog.

DH and my other dogs have not been like this. Have you had success getting a dog like this to become more trustworthy to not run off? We've been focused on other various training issues as she is a difficult though sweet dog. The Covid times have been so busy we have not had time for this training issue.

I had a dog like this (adopted) and people who think it's a quick fix have no idea. Even if I tried to just open the door enough for me to squeak out, sometimes I wasn't fast enough. If I had to carry even a bag of groceries in, I would kennel. Securing in my yard only worked for a month at most before he'd find another way out.

Yes, there was training and exercise. No, it didn't really get better. Dog was perfect in every other way and I just had to work around that one issue.

I am OP. Thanks to all who understand.

Mine is a terrier mix, so from the list someone posted, it's the breed with the highest propensity to run off. We've tried obedience training, behaviorist, youtube videos. Of course we are not perfect dog owners and and have been busy especially with virtual school etc.

I remain hopeful that it will get better but yea we just work around it for now.

[Anonymous]

I have a beagle with an incredibly high prey drive who will certainly dash out an open door if he smells prey (pretty much anything that moves). In my beagle group, several people have said their beagle crashed through their screen door hunting a fox. If the door is open for a brief moment and there’s no prey to be hunted, he won’t try but there’s no way I’d trust him to hang out in an open doorway.

[Anonymous]

This board is rife with smug people who know nothing but delight in putting others down.

Training does not mean the dog will never run away.
Most dogs, despite the best training, will never be 100% reliable on recall.

So please train your dog, OP, but you are right that this only gives you a margin of safety within which to operate, not certainty.

My own dog has been trained to death. If already outside, unleashed, he still runs... and comes back. But coyly. I have to work for it. What he's reliable on is waiting inside the house when doors are open. He will probably not progress much beyond that.

[Anonymous]

What KIND OF DOGS!!! do you people have! And how little do you train them?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m glad your DH hasn’t been like this. It’s more difficult to keep them locked up.

hahahaha! Yes, that's my ex.

We adopted a similar dog, OP, a real rescue mix from West Virginia who was a hunting dog whose owners left her loose after she had babies and hunting season was over. She's now about eight, and this is the first year she's stopped running away. When we first got her, we hired three trainers, and nothing worked. Every time a door was open, she would shoot through it before we could react. We had a dog walker quit after a week. When friends watched our dog while we were on vacation, she ran away the first morning and was found half a mile away before they knew she was missing. She runs in front of cars, and it's a miracle she hasn't been hit. We called Invisifence to our home, and the salesperson was honest with us and told us that our dog would run THROUGH the fence because she was so driven by her hunting instinct. Our second trainer concurred.

So, dog parks and hikes without leashes will never happen for our dog. We have everything fenced in. Even so, gardeners and friends leave the gate open, and we swear that our dog waits for these opportunities. She has spent the night outdoors. I have cried too many times, thinking she's been hit by a car. But so far, she's okay.

Obviously, I can just commiserate and hope maybe you do a better job at training than we did. I do think that some dogs are just driven to run away and hunt. We love our dog, she is sweet and cuddly when inside with us. Outdoors, she just seems to have her own life - PP, you understand that, ha.

This is a good thing! You shouldn't let your dog off leash. Some people with dogs on leashes do not like to be approached by an off leash dog. Some people are afraid of dogs. This is not a bad thing!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What KIND OF DOGS!!! do you people have! And how little do you train them?

Hounds!!!! As MULTIPLE PEOPLE posted! Above! Why are you so worked up about this!?