Club teams - high school spring?

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Anonymous wrote:As a coach of a (girls) MS club team and a HS team, I highly encourage playing multiple sports - I did it through my senior year of HS. Missing lax sometimes in the fall/winter is fine as long as it's communicated and I would say at least 2/3s of my teams play more than 1 sport.

It's a great mental break from lacrosse and helps develop other muscles i.e. reducing injuries. And some do it just to hang out with other friends.

Coaches that discourage it, IMO, are selfish.

What other sports are good conditioning for lax, for girls? Would track be helpful? My DD plays lax but really wants to join track in HS. She's in 7th now.

The best way to be ready to play lacrosse is to play lacrosse. But as the prior poster to you said time away from lacrosse is beneficial to the interest in the sport and to help reduce the likelihood of injuries. A month at least dedicated to overall strength building will reduce injuries, and is a great time to focus on speed development which is beneficial for all sports.

The second best way would be to play a sport that is as similar as possible, basketball is of course great.

If you're daughter is interested in track she should run for sure as she is interested. If she's open to suggestions on what to run then 100m, 200m and/or 400m are the best fit for lacrosse. Hurdles would also be good. And if she does indoor track I definitely suggest the 55m or 60m, whichever the program does. In 7th grade she's still at a developmental age where developing speed should be the priority, and will have the longest lasting positive influence and carryover to lacrosse. If someone says she should run the mile and/or the 2 mile to develop endurance then all your daughter will be doing is training to run slower on the field. She needs to increase her maximum speed. If she wants to run distance of course she should. But for the purposes of lacrosse she really needs to increase her top speed.

That could not be more incorrect. In NVA many great lacrosse players ran X-Country in the fall. Track is a Spring sport. Distance does not teach kids to run slow. Of course speed is important but endurance is very important as well. A player that can run all game will do well in lacrosse
Po

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a coach of a (girls) MS club team and a HS team, I highly encourage playing multiple sports - I did it through my senior year of HS. Missing lax sometimes in the fall/winter is fine as long as it's communicated and I would say at least 2/3s of my teams play more than 1 sport.

It's a great mental break from lacrosse and helps develop other muscles i.e. reducing injuries. And some do it just to hang out with other friends.

Coaches that discourage it, IMO, are selfish.

What other sports are good conditioning for lax, for girls? Would track be helpful? My DD plays lax but really wants to join track in HS. She's in 7th now.

The best way to be ready to play lacrosse is to play lacrosse. But as the prior poster to you said time away from lacrosse is beneficial to the interest in the sport and to help reduce the likelihood of injuries. A month at least dedicated to overall strength building will reduce injuries, and is a great time to focus on speed development which is beneficial for all sports.

The second best way would be to play a sport that is as similar as possible, basketball is of course great.

If you're daughter is interested in track she should run for sure as she is interested. If she's open to suggestions on what to run then 100m, 200m and/or 400m are the best fit for lacrosse. Hurdles would also be good. And if she does indoor track I definitely suggest the 55m or 60m, whichever the program does. In 7th grade she's still at a developmental age where developing speed should be the priority, and will have the longest lasting positive influence and carryover to lacrosse. If someone says she should run the mile and/or the 2 mile to develop endurance then all your daughter will be doing is training to run slower on the field. She needs to increase her maximum speed. If she wants to run distance of course she should. But for the purposes of lacrosse she really needs to increase her top speed.

That could not be more incorrect. In NVA many great lacrosse players ran X-Country in the fall. Track is a Spring sport. Distance does not teach kids to run slow. Of course speed is important but endurance is very important as well. A player that can run all game will do well in lacrosse
Po

Sorry but you are incorrect. Do some research. You get faster in lax by doing sprint distances. The shorter the better. Timed 10 yards is best. Look up a book called “feed the cats” by Tony Holler or go listen to a Mike Boyle podcast. If you know who Jamie Munro is he preaches this method and he is a lacrosse performance expert.

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Of course you get faster running sprints. Show me data that a girl will get slower running cross country? Jamie Munro is best know for adding Canadian Box style to field lacrosse. Anyone will agree that running sprints helps that is obvious. What you are incorrect about is that running distance will hurt development.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course you get faster running sprints. Show me data that a girl will get slower running cross country? Jamie Munro is best know for adding Canadian Box style to field lacrosse. Anyone will agree that running sprints helps that is obvious. What you are incorrect about is that running distance will hurt development.

Long distance will make your kid slower in lacrosse. Good Luck.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course you get faster running sprints. Show me data that a girl will get slower running cross country? Jamie Munro is best know for adding Canadian Box style to field lacrosse. Anyone will agree that running sprints helps that is obvious. What you are incorrect about is that running distance will hurt development.

Try having an open mind and watch this webinar. Long distance for a lacrosse athlete is a waste of time. There are better ways to spend that time.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ACU_3BwWnsRSeHNgm6avDTf9fMDQ6BoT/view?usp=sharing

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You sound like an I refuse to be wrong person. How can building endurance be bad? You stated long distance running hurts development. Not true. Sprints are great for lax players. However as a spring sport I know lots of all met lacrosse players not one was all met track

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You sound like an I refuse to be wrong person. How can building endurance be bad? You stated long distance running hurts development. Not true. Sprints are great for lax players. However as a spring sport I know lots of all met lacrosse players not one was all met track

You can't be an all-met in two spring sports. It's a counter-factual example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course you get faster running sprints. Show me data that a girl will get slower running cross country? Jamie Munro is best know for adding Canadian Box style to field lacrosse. Anyone will agree that running sprints helps that is obvious. What you are incorrect about is that running distance will hurt development.

Munro is leaning on two sports performance experts, it's not him creating the concepts.

If you're legitimately interested I suggest you consider checking out Tony Holler's YouTube. He also is half of the Track-Football Consortium (TFC). Here's one of the articles that conveys the spirit of his perspective.

The general concept - running distance is indeed practicing to run slower than sprinting. That is an absolute fact. You spend your time practicing running a sub-optimal speed for lacrosse (or any field sport for that matter). You are running at a less than sprinting speed, so you are de-training your body to run fast. You're promoting the adaptation of slow-twitch muscle fibers, lessening the output and capacity of the fast-twitch fibers, and transitioning the intermediary muscle fibers to aerobic function.

As an example (from Holler) - it's the end of a game and two players are running at a semi-fast but not all out speed. Let's say 15mph. If player A can reach a top speed of 20mph, and player B only 16mph which one is going to more easily be able to run at 15mph? Player A. By having a higher maximum speed running at a lesser speed is easier. You both increase overall speed AND aerobic capacity by cultivating speed.

What players in lacrosse or like sports need is Repeat Sprint Ability (RSA). This would stem from having a max speed of 20mph, and then being able to run at 18mph as many times as possible. Using the prior example which player will be able to repeatedly run at 16mph? Player A. Which player is going to be able to outrun the other for a ground ball? Player A.

Holler is now consulting to UVA, Princeton, UPenn and several other D1 programs. I'm personally bummed he is because I had come across Holler and the TFC two years ago and thought it was being completely missed by lacrosse, but it seems to be really gaining awareness. Holler spoke at IMLCA and has been changing lots of minds and perspectives on what to prioritize: speed over endurance.

Adding aerobic capacity is drastically easier to do than adding speed. Speed takes years to develop.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of course you get faster running sprints. Show me data that a girl will get slower running cross country? Jamie Munro is best know for adding Canadian Box style to field lacrosse. Anyone will agree that running sprints helps that is obvious. What you are incorrect about is that running distance will hurt development.

Try having an open mind and watch this webinar. Long distance for a lacrosse athlete is a waste of time. There are better ways to spend that time.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ACU_3BwWnsRSeHNgm6avDTf9fMDQ6BoT/view?usp=sharing

Did you gank his IMLCA presentation??

Pretty sure that is supposed to be their IP and not stored on someone's Google Drive.