How to handle vaccinated MIL visit

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The odds of your fully vaccinated MIL 1) contracting Covid and 2) having a high enough viral load to transmit it to your family are very low. The risk is not zero, but it is very low. I can't tell you what your level of comfort should be, but I would let her come without additional quarantining.

We don’t know the answer to #2 at this time, which is why vaccinated people still have to wear masks

Yeah, we don't know the answer, as in there hasn't been a clinical trial testing for that. Scientists are pretty sure the vaccines DO reduce transmission should someone be in the small minority that does become infected after vaccination, though. I would be comfortable taking that risk for the trade off of being able to see grandparents after a year. Apparently you would not.

[Anonymous]

Have her test if you are uncertain and then not see them for a couple of days. I can't think it would be any significant infection transmission rate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The odds of your fully vaccinated MIL 1) contracting Covid and 2) having a high enough viral load to transmit it to your family are very low. The risk is not zero, but it is very low. I can't tell you what your level of comfort should be, but I would let her come without additional quarantining.

We don’t know the answer to #2 at this time, which is why vaccinated people still have to wear masks

Yeah, we don't know the answer, as in there hasn't been a clinical trial testing for that. Scientists are pretty sure the vaccines DO reduce transmission should someone be in the small minority that does become infected after vaccination, though. I would be comfortable taking that risk for the trade off of being able to see grandparents after a year. Apparently you would not.

I would be comfortable in their case since grandparents can drive to them. In cases where grandparents would have to fly or use other mass transit where they are in close quarters with others who may or may not be masked, not comfortable. Mainly uncomfortable because kids aren’t vaccinated. Hopefully there will be more data on transmission by vaccinated individuals soon.

[Anonymous]

LOL! I posted yesterday that all the old people we booked and helped get the vaccine will now be mad if the rest of us are not getting together left and right with them and everyone else! Cause.... they are going to be safe! And as most of the bookers, who gives an eff about the rest of us.
So, no MIL will likely not give it to you, but she clearly thinks her health is more important than yours.

[Anonymous]

I would feel safe having her visit. I haven’t seen my family but once in 14 months (we all hard-corps quarantined and tested before last time). Nothing in life is risk FREE but man, these vaccines are a game changer. There will be plenty of room in hospitals and we know so much more than we did a year ago. Almost time to open things up.

—one who has been really conservative about Covid precautions but will massively loosen them up for our family once vaccinated

[Anonymous]

I’m looking forward to see how the Texas reopening plays out over the next couple months!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think this is a big risk, honestly. There just isn’t evidence showing that vaccinated or immune people are transmitting this virus. We know that asymptomatic transmission is lower than symptomatic transmission anyways.

Arohnd 40% of cases are from asymptomatic transmission. Your statement that asymptomatic transmission is “lower” is correct... but another way to say it would be “almost half”. Tomato, tamahto.

I’d like a cite for your 40% number, but even if it is true, that’s 40% among the unvaccinated population. The results in Israel tell us that the vaccine reduces asymptomatic cases by 90%. I won’t presume to do the epidemiological math on this, but that means that roughly 10% of the vaccinated people who would have had a infectious asymptomatic case get it (so 10% of the 40%?). That’s a very small risk. Not to mention there is controversy over exactly how many cases are transmitted by asymptomatic carriers in the first place. If the covid vaccine does not prevent transmission, it will be an outlier among vaccines.

I really believe that covid has broken many people’s perception of risk. The other day my very perceptive teen son, who has been very careful about covid precautions, said “Mom, I think there are a lot of people who want the quarantine to go on forever.” Out of the mouths of babes.

https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-israel-vaccine-int/israeli-studies-find-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-reduces-transmission-idUSKBN2AJ08J

[Anonymous]

Are you and your DH high risk? If not I would have no qualms inviting a vaccinated houseguest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m looking forward to see how the Texas reopening plays out over the next couple months!

Do you know there are 15 states that are without a mask restriction?

[Anonymous]

I don't think you should single out SILs family. You could ask her to quarantine before visiting (I wouldn't, but you could). Otherwise, what is the point of saying you can do anything else, but not see this one family? If you are worried about her getting it and passing it to to you, be worried about everyone, not just the SIL's family.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m looking forward to see how the Texas reopening plays out over the next couple months!

Do you know there are 15 states that are without a mask restriction?

Yes. The difference is Texas will not have any restrictions on businesses either. They’re able to reopen at 100% capacity + no masks. Will be fun

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m looking forward to see how the Texas reopening plays out over the next couple months!

Family lives there (in multiple different counties). The "reopening" part of the order is a joke. They've been at 75% capacity, absolutely unenforced. The 100% will make no discernible difference.

Rescinding the mask order is, of course, asinine and will have terrible consequences, but Abbott doesn't care, as long as he can pander to his big business donors, get reelected and kiss Trump's ample orange rear end.

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't have an issue with letting MIL visit. We were all asked to stay home to protect the vulnerable and not be selfish since the risk was not borne equally across all groups. If someone vulnerable, like your MIL, is vaccinated then why are you so worried about your family? Are any of you high risk or vulnerable? If not, what's the issue?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m looking forward to see how the Texas reopening plays out over the next couple months!

Family lives there (in multiple different counties). The "reopening" part of the order is a joke. They've been at 75% capacity, absolutely unenforced. The 100% will make no discernible difference.

Rescinding the mask order is, of course, asinine and will have terrible consequences, but Abbott doesn't care, as long as he can pander to his big business donors, get reelected and kiss Trump's ample orange rear end.[/quot]

PP here. Yes, my cousin is a teacher and she is terrified. The school won’t impose a mask mandate to protect teachers there either. It’s unfortunate... wearing a mask doesn’t hurt anyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wouldn't have an issue with letting MIL visit. We were all asked to stay home to protect the vulnerable and not be selfish since the risk was not borne equally across all groups. If someone vulnerable, like your MIL, is vaccinated then why are you so worried about your family? Are any of you high risk or vulnerable? If not, what's the issue?

Well, I don't think anyone, even those who aren't high risk, want to get COVID. We just don't know enough about whether vaccinated people can still harbor and transmit virus even if they don't get it themselves, so while it's definitely a huge help to have a vaccine, it's best if people visit with those who are ALSO vaccinated for now.