Being asked to move up a team

[Anonymous]

If the team the keeper is moving to is decent and used to winning they will welcome a full time goalie with open arms. Otherwise, field players will have to fill in until they find someone else. My DC is a keeper and guests for older teams at their club a decent amount. She is not great friends with them but they are appreciative of her being there

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Anonymous wrote:Reading that this is an injury fill in for a GK, talk to your current coach and get their input. Also ask yourself how DD would feel if she played well in the spring, maybe won a tournament or two and had a great time, then got demoted when the prior GK recovered

+1 There is no guarantee that when other goalie is healthy again your dd will still get top spot.

No. But there is a guarantee that she won't get the top spot if she doesn't try. This is an opportunity. If she wants to play at a higher level, then she should seize it. No it may not work out - that's life.

Equally if she has other goals it is perfectly reasonable to turn the opportunity down. But don't turn it down because it may not work out. By that reasoning you'd never get out of bed in the morning.

The easiest way to move up is to move clubs. In OP’s situation, best case she moves up and takes a girl’s spot due to injury. She better hope that girl doesn’t have good friends on the team, otherwise she’s getting ostracized (especially as a keeper)

Yes, I'm sure a U13 team would rather spend a season playing field players in goal than having a dedicated keeper. Also, this dynamic would also be a risk if she moved to a new club and displaced a team's keeper there. That's a matter of a team having asshole players, not of moving within vs. between clubs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reading that this is an injury fill in for a GK, talk to your current coach and get their input. Also ask yourself how DD would feel if she played well in the spring, maybe won a tournament or two and had a great time, then got demoted when the prior GK recovered

+1 There is no guarantee that when other goalie is healthy again your dd will still get top spot.

No. But there is a guarantee that she won't get the top spot if she doesn't try. This is an opportunity. If she wants to play at a higher level, then she should seize it. No it may not work out - that's life.

Equally if she has other goals it is perfectly reasonable to turn the opportunity down. But don't turn it down because it may not work out. By that reasoning you'd never get out of bed in the morning.

The easiest way to move up is to move clubs. In OP’s situation, best case she moves up and takes a girl’s spot due to injury. She better hope that girl doesn’t have good friends on the team, otherwise she’s getting ostracized (especially as a keeper)

Girls teams can be social minefields - but I highly doubt this would be an issue. Girls ostracize teammates for complex reasons, but they rarely ostracize the best players because they all want to win.

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Anonymous wrote:Reading that this is an injury fill in for a GK, talk to your current coach and get their input. Also ask yourself how DD would feel if she played well in the spring, maybe won a tournament or two and had a great time, then got demoted when the prior GK recovered

+1 There is no guarantee that when other goalie is healthy again your dd will still get top spot.

No. But there is a guarantee that she won't get the top spot if she doesn't try. This is an opportunity. If she wants to play at a higher level, then she should seize it. No it may not work out - that's life.

Equally if she has other goals it is perfectly reasonable to turn the opportunity down. But don't turn it down because it may not work out. By that reasoning you'd never get out of bed in the morning.

The easiest way to move up is to move clubs. In OP’s situation, best case she moves up and takes a girl’s spot due to injury. She better hope that girl doesn’t have good friends on the team, otherwise she’s getting ostracized (especially as a keeper)

Girls teams can be social minefields - but I highly doubt this would be an issue. Girls ostracize teammates for complex reasons, but they rarely ostracize the best players because they all want to win.

I actually think the girls will be grateful they have a good keeper to help them out while the OG Keeper heals. They wont ostracize her for being temp solution.

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Anonymous wrote:Reading that this is an injury fill in for a GK, talk to your current coach and get their input. Also ask yourself how DD would feel if she played well in the spring, maybe won a tournament or two and had a great time, then got demoted when the prior GK recovered

+1 There is no guarantee that when other goalie is healthy again your dd will still get top spot.

No. But there is a guarantee that she won't get the top spot if she doesn't try. This is an opportunity. If she wants to play at a higher level, then she should seize it. No it may not work out - that's life.

Equally if she has other goals it is perfectly reasonable to turn the opportunity down. But don't turn it down because it may not work out. By that reasoning you'd never get out of bed in the morning.

The easiest way to move up is to move clubs. In OP’s situation, best case she moves up and takes a girl’s spot due to injury. She better hope that girl doesn’t have good friends on the team, otherwise she’s getting ostracized (especially as a keeper)

They might if she becomes a permanent solution of the old keeper still has friends on the team.

Girls teams can be social minefields - but I highly doubt this would be an issue. Girls ostracize teammates for complex reasons, but they rarely ostracize the best players because they all want to win.

I actually think the girls will be grateful they have a good keeper to help them out while the OG Keeper heals. They wont ostracize her for being temp solution.

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Anonymous wrote:Reading that this is an injury fill in for a GK, talk to your current coach and get their input. Also ask yourself how DD would feel if she played well in the spring, maybe won a tournament or two and had a great time, then got demoted when the prior GK recovered

+1 There is no guarantee that when other goalie is healthy again your dd will still get top spot.

No. But there is a guarantee that she won't get the top spot if she doesn't try. This is an opportunity. If she wants to play at a higher level, then she should seize it. No it may not work out - that's life.

Equally if she has other goals it is perfectly reasonable to turn the opportunity down. But don't turn it down because it may not work out. By that reasoning you'd never get out of bed in the morning.

The easiest way to move up is to move clubs. In OP’s situation, best case she moves up and takes a girl’s spot due to injury. She better hope that girl doesn’t have good friends on the team, otherwise she’s getting ostracized (especially as a keeper)

Girls teams can be social minefields - but I highly doubt this would be an issue. Girls ostracize teammates for complex reasons, but they rarely ostracize the best players because they all want to win.

I actually think the girls will be grateful they have a good keeper to help them out while the OG Keeper heals. They wont ostracize her for being temp solution.

They might if she becomes a permanent solution of the old keeper still has friends on the team.

So basically you're saying that rosters should be sacrosanct until the team ages out, that no club should ever be allowed to demote a player and replace them with someone more skilled at any point because of the potential social issues if the demoted player has friends on their old team?

[Anonymous]

Yes, I'm sure a U13 team would rather spend a season playing field players in goal than having a dedicated keeper.

Who knows? My son's U12 team decided to do that - for reasons that escape both me and him - while searching for a dedicated keeper, because they were hoping to find a better keeper than the one on the team the level below. Very frustrating.

[Anonymous]

So basically you're saying that rosters should be sacrosanct until the team ages out, that no club should ever be allowed to demote a player and replace them with someone more skilled at any point because of the potential social issues if the demoted player has friends on their old team?

Not PP, and I don't agree with that, but I do think that, unless there is a fairly significant difference in the quality of the players, teams hesitate to demote in order to pull up, because they don't want to lose the $$.

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So basically you're saying that rosters should be sacrosanct until the team ages out, that no club should ever be allowed to demote a player and replace them with someone more skilled at any point because of the potential social issues if the demoted player has friends on their old team?

Not PP, and I don't agree with that, but I do think that, unless there is a fairly significant difference in the quality of the players, teams hesitate to demote in order to pull up, because they don't want to lose the $$.

Most decent clubs aren't struggling to fill roster spots. If one player leaves over a demotion, there's usually someone else interested in making a move into the club who is willing to pay the $$.

[Anonymous]

So basically you're saying that rosters should be sacrosanct until the team ages out, that no club should ever be allowed to demote a player and replace them with someone more skilled at any point because of the potential social issues if the demoted player has friends on their old team?


Not PP, and I don't agree with that, but I do think that, unless there is a fairly significant difference in the quality of the players, teams hesitate to demote in order to pull up, because they don't want to lose the $$.


Most decent clubs aren't struggling to fill roster spots. If one player leaves over a demotion, there's usually someone else interested in making a move into the club who is willing to pay the $$.

That's true for the A teams, but not really below.

[Anonymous]

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So basically you're saying that rosters should be sacrosanct until the team ages out, that no club should ever be allowed to demote a player and replace them with someone more skilled at any point because of the potential social issues if the demoted player has friends on their old team?


Not PP, and I don't agree with that, but I do think that, unless there is a fairly significant difference in the quality of the players, teams hesitate to demote in order to pull up, because they don't want to lose the $$.


Most decent clubs aren't struggling to fill roster spots. If one player leaves over a demotion, there's usually someone else interested in making a move into the club who is willing to pay the $$.

That's true for the A teams, but not really below.

Sounds like your club must have recruitment problems if they can’t fill their rosters.

[Anonymous]

o basically you're saying that rosters should be sacrosanct until the team ages out, that no club should ever be allowed to demote a player and replace them with someone more skilled at any point because of the potential social issues if the demoted player has friends on their old team?


Not PP, and I don't agree with that, but I do think that, unless there is a fairly significant difference in the quality of the players, teams hesitate to demote in order to pull up, because they don't want to lose the $$.


Most decent clubs aren't struggling to fill roster spots. If one player leaves over a demotion, there's usually someone else interested in making a move into the club who is willing to pay the $$.


That's true for the A teams, but not really below.


Sounds like your club must have recruitment problems if they can’t fill their rosters.

Not partciularly, but although they def want the $$, they are not going to fill it with a random body either. And we are within a close drive of several other good clubs.