Need a "non-Karen" haircut for chin length hair that I'm growing out

Anonymous
The look you are wanting to avoid rarely happens by accident. Don’t spike it or “add volume at the roots” with your dryer and you will be ok.
Anonymous
The pic you posted is great. The problem is the next phase. I have very thick hair, and there was no way to avoid the mushroom cloud look without an undercut. Then of course, you have an undercut.

For me, tape in extentions have been awesome. Keep them short, just below chin length, and do a shag
Anonymous
The stacking on the back of this bob will lead to the look you are trying to avoid. But the front is nice.
Anonymous
Have you considered bangs?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The pic you posted is great. The problem is the next phase. I have very thick hair, and there was no way to avoid the mushroom cloud look without an undercut. Then of course, you have an undercut.

For me, tape in extentions have been awesome. Keep them short, just below chin length, and do a shag


Sorry, this is me, I meant just below SHOULDER length
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The pic you posted is great. The problem is the next phase. I have very thick hair, and there was no way to avoid the mushroom cloud look without an undercut. Then of course, you have an undercut.

For me, tape in extentions have been awesome. Keep them short, just below chin length, and do a shag


Sorry, this is me, I meant just below SHOULDER length


All I have to say is that I'm glad I have kept my hair long! At some point - around 40? - I realized that it wasn't growing as quickly and if I wanted long hair I better get it and keep it.
Anonymous
I alternate between this sort of layered look and a single length blunt cut bob depending on my mood.

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/1d/8f/bb/1d8fbb0f15d2d4f81edfa6d72b7b5443.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/6a/ad/ba/6aadba7ddaf180a2bf39b84177ca088d.jpg
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The pic you posted is great. The problem is the next phase. I have very thick hair, and there was no way to avoid the mushroom cloud look without an undercut. Then of course, you have an undercut.

For me, tape in extentions have been awesome. Keep them short, just below chin length, and do a shag


Sorry, this is me, I meant just below SHOULDER length


All I have to say is that I'm glad I have kept my hair long! At some point - around 40? - I realized that it wasn't growing as quickly and if I wanted long hair I better get it and keep it.


Thats a shame! Hair is so fun. I loved my pixie that I cut at 42. It was edgy and hot, I'm dating and men loved it. I like it long too, and can afford to get it that way.....its the very phase OP is talking about that I dont like...the earlobe to shoulder blade length is the pits.

I'd urge you to not rule yourself out at 40! Eat a good diet and take collagen if your hair is unhealthy, maybe it will grow faster?
Anonymous
Do you have any wave at all in your hair? If so, consider leaning into that. I found that with a little help from products, my hair would produce a nice beach-y wave at about that length. It looked pretty good--and definitely less severe than a lot of bobs--and was also really easy to style.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Do you have any wave at all in your hair? If so, consider leaning into that. I found that with a little help from products, my hair would produce a nice beach-y wave at about that length. It looked pretty good--and definitely less severe than a lot of bobs--and was also really easy to style.


OP here. I do have quite a bit of wave and when my hair is long I definitely lean into it. But the texture seems to have changed a bit since I last had long hair and I'm struggling to find products that work. Do you have any recommendations? I would love to find something that would enhance the wave and allow me to air dry or diffuse it. Right now I've been blow drying pretty much every time because otherwise I wind up with a kind of unfortunate Steve Bannon-esque wavy mullet situation (oh god, I hate growing my hair out so much).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here. I was really not trying to be mean. I am a middle-aged white woman. My hair used to be long and then has been in a pixie for years, and now I'm in this in-between place and don't know what to do. I have seen a ton of criticism of middle-aged white womens' appearance lately, and especially this specific angled bob haircut, because of the whole Karen thing. I know that criticism is misogynistic, but that doesn't mean I want to walk into it. I'm looking for a haircut that makes me feel good about myself, not something that reminds me of memes about racist women. I know that's frustrating -- women should just be able to wear our hair how we want! But the truth is that people judge us for how we look, and I want to avoid any judgment that makes people think I'm racist or small-minded (or unattractive, for that matter).

Anyway, I actually really like this cut below and think my hair is long enough to do it and has the right texture (most of the others from the link sent are too long -- my hair isn't there yet). Do people have opinions about how this will look on a white lady? Agree about avoiding the Kate Gosslin spiky hair thing, but this looks really soft and full, plus pretty easy to style.



I'm also experimenting with headbands which I think help a bit with my bang grow-out issue. Never thought I'd be a headband girl, but I'm desperate. My hair has been depressing me all year and is taking way too long to grow.


This is a wig!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The pic you posted is great. The problem is the next phase. I have very thick hair, and there was no way to avoid the mushroom cloud look without an undercut. Then of course, you have an undercut.

For me, tape in extentions have been awesome. Keep them short, just below chin length, and do a shag


Sorry, this is me, I meant just below SHOULDER length


All I have to say is that I'm glad I have kept my hair long! At some point - around 40? - I realized that it wasn't growing as quickly and if I wanted long hair I better get it and keep it.


Thats a shame! Hair is so fun. I loved my pixie that I cut at 42. It was edgy and hot, I'm dating and men loved it. I like it long too, and can afford to get it that way.....its the very phase OP is talking about that I dont like...the earlobe to shoulder blade length is the pits.

I'd urge you to not rule yourself out at 40! Eat a good diet and take collagen if your hair is unhealthy, maybe it will grow faster?


OP here and I am with you on a short pixie in your 40s! If you have the bone structure for a pixie, it's a super sexy cut. The main reason I'm growing mine out is that the upkeep is intense -- I have to get it cut shaped every 6 weeks at a minimum to keep it looking good, because my hair has a lot of natural poof and will start to look helmet-like if I get lax. That's way too much salon time for Covid so I'm growing out... but I often miss my short cut and will probably return to it at some point. The key is just to fully commit to it.

But yes, this in-between situation is the pits. I would just pin it back and forget about it for a while, but I have some family photos coming up and need my hair to look good enough that I don't mind looking at that haircut for years to come. Ugh.
Anonymous
I'm sorry, but you sound exactly like the type of person who SHOULD have this type of haircut. Like you for sure have the personality for it. How rude.
Anonymous
Never knew a Karen had a Certain hair style, like Kate Gosselin’s?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am growing out a short pixie cut, with the goal of shoulder skimming hair. Right now it's around chin length, but all different lengths because I'm growing out such a short cut. I've trimmed it in back a little to avoid a mullet, but need to get a proper haircut this spring so that it has better shape and to maintain health as I grow it out.

The problem is that when I look at haircuts for my hair length, they all look like that classic white-lady Karen cut -- lots of angled bobs with side parts. I don't want a talk-to-the-manager cut.

Is there a mid length cut that doesn't look like this? I feel like it will help when my bangs are fully grown out but right now they are still at about eye length and it's contributing to the overall Karen feel. Also, my hair is mid-weight and mid-volume, with some big waves but no curl. And it's dark blonde with streaks of gray.

Any ideas? Or do I just have to accept that I look like everyone's loathed middle-aged white lady neighbor until I can grow it long enough to do something better with it?


That is a really mean-spirited post.


+1 -- and misogynistic


Agree
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