Regular decision at UVA

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Anonymous wrote:DS HAS GPA 4.3 AND SAT 1430 WITH A FAIR AMOUNT OF GOOD ECS, APPLIED FOR CS, WHAT ARE THE CHANCES FOR ACCEPTANCE.

Depends on essays, course load rigor, and high school. The chance is certainly not zero as the PP said. We had lots of defers at our high school during the EA round. Many schools don't do class rank, but your son needs to be in the top 5%. A 4.3 at our high school is top 10%. We have a 6 point grading scale, so GPAs can be misleading.

According to the GPA/SAT comparison, OP's son likely doesn't have the course/school rigor such as those at TJ. So the chance is slim.

You can't compare GPA until you know the high school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:DS HAS GPA 4.3 AND SAT 1430 WITH A FAIR AMOUNT OF GOOD ECS, APPLIED FOR CS, WHAT ARE THE CHANCES FOR ACCEPTANCE.

Depends on essays, course load rigor, and high school. The chance is certainly not zero as the PP said. We had lots of defers at our high school during the EA round. Many schools don't do class rank, but your son needs to be in the top 5%. A 4.3 at our high school is top 10%. We have a 6 point grading scale, so GPAs can be misleading.

According to the GPA/SAT comparison, OP's son likely doesn't have the course/school rigor such as those at TJ. So the chance is slim.

You can't compare GPA until you know the high school.

What I meant was that a GPA of 4.3 with SAT of 1430 didn't seem to come from a school like TJ. A typical 4.3 TJ student would have an SAT score well above 1500, thus the conclusion on rigor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS HAS GPA 4.3 AND SAT 1430 WITH A FAIR AMOUNT OF GOOD ECS, APPLIED FOR CS, WHAT ARE THE CHANCES FOR ACCEPTANCE.

Depends on essays, course load rigor, and high school. The chance is certainly not zero as the PP said. We had lots of defers at our high school during the EA round. Many schools don't do class rank, but your son needs to be in the top 5%. A 4.3 at our high school is top 10%. We have a 6 point grading scale, so GPAs can be misleading.

According to the GPA/SAT comparison, OP's son likely doesn't have the course/school rigor such as those at TJ. So the chance is slim.

You can't compare GPA until you know the high school.

Here's an example from this year:

Lots of kids in our high school were deferred during EA. Only 4 kids got in that we know of so far (I think there are a few more, but can't confirm). Those GPAs range from 4.3 - 4.5. My DS (4.39, test optional) got in, but some kids with 4.5s didn't. To have a fighting chance, you need to be in the top 5% of the class. You simply can't look at stats and determine who has a chance and who doesn't. A 4.5 in our school is just about a 4.0 UW. I'd have to do the math, but a 4.6 is just about the max you can get to with some of the required 4.0 weighted classes.

[Anonymous]

DS has done 10 APs

[Anonymous]

Honestly, the odds are not great. UVA likes to see kids in top 5-10% of graduating class (echoing the other posts regarding the GPA number). If the 4.3 puts your kid in top 5% then there is a chance. SAT north of 1500 also would help. It is true that RD pool will be very competitive given the stats for deferrals (TJ-esque applicants) that have been posted in other threads.

Hope you have plan B in place. A self motivated student would do just fine no matter where he/she enrolls.

[Anonymous]

My DC applied RD to UVA. I showed the numbers to DC, and they understand it will be a rejection. It is a bummer since we are in state and it was their first choice. Had a bumpy freshman year, so needed senior grades. Accepted at a school ranked around the same, so not without options.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS HAS GPA 4.3 AND SAT 1430 WITH A FAIR AMOUNT OF GOOD ECS, APPLIED FOR CS, WHAT ARE THE CHANCES FOR ACCEPTANCE.

Depends on essays, course load rigor, and high school. The chance is certainly not zero as the PP said. We had lots of defers at our high school during the EA round. Many schools don't do class rank, but your son needs to be in the top 5%. A 4.3 at our high school is top 10%. We have a 6 point grading scale, so GPAs can be misleading.

According to the GPA/SAT comparison, OP's son likely doesn't have the course/school rigor such as those at TJ. So the chance is slim.

You can't compare GPA until you know the high school.

Here's an example from this year:

Lots of kids in our high school were deferred during EA. Only 4 kids got in that we know of so far (I think there are a few more, but can't confirm). Those GPAs range from 4.3 - 4.5. My DS (4.39, test optional) got in, but some kids with 4.5s didn't. To have a fighting chance, you need to be in the top 5% of the class. You simply can't look at stats and determine who has a chance and who doesn't. A 4.5 in our school is just about a 4.0 UW. I'd have to do the math, but a 4.6 is just about the max you can get to with some of the required 4.0 weighted classes.

Is the reference above is TJ?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS HAS GPA 4.3 AND SAT 1430 WITH A FAIR AMOUNT OF GOOD ECS, APPLIED FOR CS, WHAT ARE THE CHANCES FOR ACCEPTANCE.

Depends on essays, course load rigor, and high school. The chance is certainly not zero as the PP said. We had lots of defers at our high school during the EA round. Many schools don't do class rank, but your son needs to be in the top 5%. A 4.3 at our high school is top 10%. We have a 6 point grading scale, so GPAs can be misleading.

According to the GPA/SAT comparison, OP's son likely doesn't have the course/school rigor such as those at TJ. So the chance is slim.

You can't compare GPA until you know the high school.

Here's an example from this year:

Lots of kids in our high school were deferred during EA. Only 4 kids got in that we know of so far (I think there are a few more, but can't confirm). Those GPAs range from 4.3 - 4.5. My DS (4.39, test optional) got in, but some kids with 4.5s didn't. To have a fighting chance, you need to be in the top 5% of the class. You simply can't look at stats and determine who has a chance and who doesn't. A 4.5 in our school is just about a 4.0 UW. I'd have to do the math, but a 4.6 is just about the max you can get to with some of the required 4.0 weighted classes.

Is the reference above is TJ?

Not PP, but there're a lot more than 4 people got in UVA this year.

[Anonymous]

you need to be in the top 5% of the class

This is all that matters. Coming from a NoVa public, this is all that matters. Where are you in class. YEAH I KNOW, it is said FCPS doesn't rank students. I believe that but there is still *some* way or colleges to know.

Not saying the number is 5%. In a better year it might be 10%. No student from a NoVa public who's out of the top 15-20% of their class, unless a recruited athlete/URM, need not apply. Look out of state. For a NoVa student where UVA is a reach, a possible waitliist, that student can attend out of state with merit aid for less total cost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, the odds are not great. UVA likes to see kids in top 5-10% of graduating class (echoing the other posts regarding the GPA number). If the 4.3 puts your kid in top 5% then there is a chance. SAT north of 1500 also would help. It is true that RD pool will be very competitive given the stats for deferrals (TJ-esque applicants) that have been posted in other threads.

Hope you have plan B in place. A self motivated student would do just fine no matter where he/she enrolls.

Coming out of Covington, VA? Sure, probably has a shot.

Coming out of NOVA? No. If you read the EA thread, you will see multiple legacy applicants, URMs (legacy and URMs!), strong ECs, etc., with similar or better stats and APs that were outright rejected in the EA round.

UVA decided to feast at the ED and EA smorgasbord, knowing that in-state tuition would give it a heads up in our pandemic-stricken application year. I don't like it, but I also would have done the same. UVA spotted a market deficiency and jumped at it. But it sucks being on the receiving end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Honestly, the odds are not great. UVA likes to see kids in top 5-10% of graduating class (echoing the other posts regarding the GPA number). If the 4.3 puts your kid in top 5% then there is a chance. SAT north of 1500 also would help. It is true that RD pool will be very competitive given the stats for deferrals (TJ-esque applicants) that have been posted in other threads.

Hope you have plan B in place. A self motivated student would do just fine no matter where he/she enrolls.

Coming out of Covington, VA? Sure, probably has a shot.

Coming out of NOVA? No. If you read the EA thread, you will see multiple legacy applicants, URMs (legacy and URMs!), strong ECs, etc., with similar or better stats and APs that were outright rejected in the EA round.

UVA decided to feast at the ED and EA smorgasbord, knowing that in-state tuition would give it a heads up in our pandemic-stricken application year. I don't like it, but I also would have done the same. UVA spotted a market deficiency and jumped at it. But it sucks being on the receiving end.

I get so tired of hearing this. Last year 4 students applied to UVA from Allegheny County -- 4! -- and only one got in. Rural VA is not stealing your kids' spots.

[Anonymous]

25% admit rate is still higher than NOVA!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:25% admit rate is still higher than NOVA!

WRONG. Fairfax: 36 percent admit rate; Arlington 35; Loudoun 30. 1843 students from these counties admitted in 2019. ONE from Allegheny County.

[Anonymous]

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Coming out of Covington, VA? Sure, probably has a shot.

Coming out of NOVA? No. If you read the EA thread, you will see multiple legacy applicants, URMs (legacy and URMs!), strong ECs, etc., with similar or better stats and APs that were outright rejected in the EA round.

UVA decided to feast at the ED and EA smorgasbord, knowing that in-state tuition would give it a heads up in our pandemic-stricken application year. I don't like it, but I also would have done the same. UVA spotted a market deficiency and jumped at it. But it sucks being on the receiving end.

What does this even mean? If anything, when finances are rough due to the pandemic (testing, accommodations, housing refunds), they'd want more non-residents for the higher tuition.

And they've always admitted the bulk of their students during EA. You can see that in the numbers they publish on the admissions blog.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:25% admit rate is still higher than NOVA!

WRONG. Fairfax: 36 percent admit rate; Arlington 35; Loudoun 30. 1843 students from these counties admitted in 2019. ONE from Allegheny County.

Don't give facts to these people, they need a crutch to rationalize the deferral/waitlist/reject. The my kid didn't get into UVA parents here are a self licking ice cream cone, the world outside of NOVA is filled with inferior students that can only achieve admission by a handout, gross.