It's very uncommon. You might be asked to rewrite a portion, or add a section, before the official sign-off, but your advisor shouldn't let you defend if you aren't ready. The defense isn't exactly a formality, but pretty close. |
Thanks all from OP. I’ve always wondered about the process and appreciate the insights. |
The ABD is such a crock because the D is the hardest and most difficult part. I would never admit being ABD, either PhD or nothing. |
Correct. Lots of people fail Ph.D. comps (and Masters out or retake them). It is rare in the US to fail a dissertation, and generally the advisor's fault for not recognizing the student is not ready. Some corrections are normal, though, but this essentially counts as 'passed'. |
I disagree. Prior to defending my dissertation I completed 3+ years of coursework including multiple practica, passed my written comps, had multiple years of individual and group supervision, passed a foreign language exam, completed a pre-dissertation research project, and completed a year long internship with a competitive application process. Being able to indicate my status as an ABD was an asset that appropriately allowed me to find jobs that financially allowed me to work on and complete my dissertation — a process that took a couple of years. |
What is ABD? |
"All But Dissertation" |
Exactly. There are not supposed to be surprises at a thesis defense. Nobody is supposed to be pins & needles on the edge of their seat, uncertain of outcome. |
I fail my transverse event in phd what to do supervisor is in favor to continue as I international student-athletes can I doplease suggest |
I am a phd student in uws fail in transverse event, supervision is not supporting what can I do as a international student |
Eh, that really depends on the program, and maybe the field. In my PhD program, we had several pre-dissertation research projects, but the dissertation was the hardest part. We did not have heavy coursework, comps, or practica/internships. I hire researchers who mostly have PhDs and I would not find ABD status to be much of an asset. I would think of someone who is ABD as similar to someone with a terminal MS, except that I would be wondering why they couldn't finish their dissertation. I'd also be wondering why they are advertising their ABD status as if I should be impressed by it. |
This is how it works in all the programs I’m familiar with (mostly science if that matters) |
My husband has a PhD and serves on people's committees. They just had someone fail her proposal defense and the committee reamed out her advisor for letting her go in front of her committee when she wasn't ready. And that was just the proposal. You'd have to have an absolutely awful advisor to fail your thesis defense. |
I didn't go through a PhD program but had a colleague who made it sound like dissertation defense was more political than anything. You only defend if it's hinted that you will pass. My friend actually maneuvered into a new advisor to replace an unsupportive one then successfully defended her dissertation without issue. |
Same. Knew several people who dropped out of their Ph.D A bit off topic, but I wonder what percentage of those who begin a Ph.D actually earn their degree? |