Oh crap block 1 need advice/encouragement

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Anonymous wrote:NP- how did you get your kid on the potty for the first time? Physically put them there? That will be a complete nonstarter with mine who melts down if manhandled. I've tried bribing. We started this afternoon.



How do you get your child into the stroller or car seat?


She's been in a stroller or car seat for her entire life. The potty is new.



So she won’t let you pick her up and sit her anyplace she hasn’t been in in her whole life?! Seriously that’s insane, PP! You have to show her how to use a potty.


Omg. Of course I'm going to show her how to use the potty. I'm actually insanely strict. But I don't want her first experience of the potty to be me forcing her on it. Last week I tried to force her into her new winter bunting and it caused a 45 minute meltdown. Physically holding a kicking and crying toddler on a potty doesn't seem like the best way to start this process.




How old is your toddler? Is she developmentally normal and curious?


She's almost 23 months. Yes, in fact pretty advanced (I hate saying that because it sounds ridiculous but she knows all her numbers and letters). She's just very strong willed and has never liked being moved or restrained. Anyway, we have made progress since last night! Daddy got her to sit on the toilet. Now she'll sit, working on peeing.
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Anonymous wrote:NP- how did you get your kid on the potty for the first time? Physically put them there? That will be a complete nonstarter with mine who melts down if manhandled. I've tried bribing. We started this afternoon.



How do you get your child into the stroller or car seat?


She's been in a stroller or car seat for her entire life. The potty is new.



So she won’t let you pick her up and sit her anyplace she hasn’t been in in her whole life?! Seriously that’s insane, PP! You have to show her how to use a potty.


Omg. Of course I'm going to show her how to use the potty. I'm actually insanely strict. But I don't want her first experience of the potty to be me forcing her on it. Last week I tried to force her into her new winter bunting and it caused a 45 minute meltdown. Physically holding a kicking and crying toddler on a potty doesn't seem like the best way to start this process.




How old is your toddler? Is she developmentally normal and curious?


She's almost 23 months. Yes, in fact pretty advanced (I hate saying that because it sounds ridiculous but she knows all her numbers and letters). She's just very strong willed and has never liked being moved or restrained. Anyway, we have made progress since last night! Daddy got her to sit on the toilet. Now she'll sit, working on peeing.


It isn’t for every child. I had a really strong willed independent kid and oh crap was a disaster. A crappy disaster, literally. I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone with anything other than a totally complacent toddler.

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Anonymous wrote:NP- how did you get your kid on the potty for the first time? Physically put them there? That will be a complete nonstarter with mine who melts down if manhandled. I've tried bribing. We started this afternoon.



How do you get your child into the stroller or car seat?


She's been in a stroller or car seat for her entire life. The potty is new.



So she won’t let you pick her up and sit her anyplace she hasn’t been in in her whole life?! Seriously that’s insane, PP! You have to show her how to use a potty.


Omg. Of course I'm going to show her how to use the potty. I'm actually insanely strict. But I don't want her first experience of the potty to be me forcing her on it. Last week I tried to force her into her new winter bunting and it caused a 45 minute meltdown. Physically holding a kicking and crying toddler on a potty doesn't seem like the best way to start this process.




How old is your toddler? Is she developmentally normal and curious?


She's almost 23 months. Yes, in fact pretty advanced (I hate saying that because it sounds ridiculous but she knows all her numbers and letters). She's just very strong willed and has never liked being moved or restrained. Anyway, we have made progress since last night! Daddy got her to sit on the toilet. Now she'll sit, working on peeing.


It isn’t for every child. I had a really strong willed independent kid and oh crap was a disaster. A crappy disaster, literally. I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone with anything other than a totally complacent toddler.



Like with everything with her I'm determined that this not turn into a power struggle. DH and I are both very strong willed and our parents handled it poorly. Like with her eating, I'm going to just keep it neutral and light. I don't want to force it. She just did a little pee in it! God sorry everyone for live blogging this experience but we're all trapped in our houses so.
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Glad to hear things are progressing. Stay positive!
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Anonymous wrote:NP- how did you get your kid on the potty for the first time? Physically put them there? That will be a complete nonstarter with mine who melts down if manhandled. I've tried bribing. We started this afternoon.



How do you get your child into the stroller or car seat?


She's been in a stroller or car seat for her entire life. The potty is new.



So she won’t let you pick her up and sit her anyplace she hasn’t been in in her whole life?! Seriously that’s insane, PP! You have to show her how to use a potty.


Omg. Of course I'm going to show her how to use the potty. I'm actually insanely strict. But I don't want her first experience of the potty to be me forcing her on it. Last week I tried to force her into her new winter bunting and it caused a 45 minute meltdown. Physically holding a kicking and crying toddler on a potty doesn't seem like the best way to start this process.




How old is your toddler? Is she developmentally normal and curious?


She's almost 23 months. Yes, in fact pretty advanced (I hate saying that because it sounds ridiculous but she knows all her numbers and letters). She's just very strong willed and has never liked being moved or restrained. Anyway, we have made progress since last night! Daddy got her to sit on the toilet. Now she'll sit, working on peeing.


It isn’t for every child. I had a really strong willed independent kid and oh crap was a disaster. A crappy disaster, literally. I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone with anything other than a totally complacent toddler.




I disagree completely! Oh Crap worked beautifully on my extremely strong-willed, independent and high energy toddler. He decided when he had to go and I would remind him but not bug him. He trained at 22 months.
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Anonymous wrote:NP- how did you get your kid on the potty for the first time? Physically put them there? That will be a complete nonstarter with mine who melts down if manhandled. I've tried bribing. We started this afternoon.



How do you get your child into the stroller or car seat?


She's been in a stroller or car seat for her entire life. The potty is new.



So she won’t let you pick her up and sit her anyplace she hasn’t been in in her whole life?! Seriously that’s insane, PP! You have to show her how to use a potty.


Omg. Of course I'm going to show her how to use the potty. I'm actually insanely strict. But I don't want her first experience of the potty to be me forcing her on it. Last week I tried to force her into her new winter bunting and it caused a 45 minute meltdown. Physically holding a kicking and crying toddler on a potty doesn't seem like the best way to start this process.




How old is your toddler? Is she developmentally normal and curious?


She's almost 23 months. Yes, in fact pretty advanced (I hate saying that because it sounds ridiculous but she knows all her numbers and letters). She's just very strong willed and has never liked being moved or restrained. Anyway, we have made progress since last night! Daddy got her to sit on the toilet. Now she'll sit, working on peeing.


It isn’t for every child. I had a really strong willed independent kid and oh crap was a disaster. A crappy disaster, literally. I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone with anything other than a totally complacent toddler.




I disagree completely! Oh Crap worked beautifully on my extremely strong-willed, independent and high energy toddler. He decided when he had to go and I would remind him but not bug him. He trained at 22 months.



+1. I think Oh Crap worked because my child was independent and strong-willed (but not a brat). I also added rewards in a mesh bag she could see but not touch and she could choose one for each successful potty trip. I’ve never had to remind her to use the toilet.
Anonymous
After potty training 2 kids and reading DCUM potty training posts for 4 years I’m convinced that the attitude of the parents going into potty training is more important than any particular potty training technique.
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Anonymous wrote:NP- how did you get your kid on the potty for the first time? Physically put them there? That will be a complete nonstarter with mine who melts down if manhandled. I've tried bribing. We started this afternoon.



How do you get your child into the stroller or car seat?


She's been in a stroller or car seat for her entire life. The potty is new.



So she won’t let you pick her up and sit her anyplace she hasn’t been in in her whole life?! Seriously that’s insane, PP! You have to show her how to use a potty.


Omg. Of course I'm going to show her how to use the potty. I'm actually insanely strict. But I don't want her first experience of the potty to be me forcing her on it. Last week I tried to force her into her new winter bunting and it caused a 45 minute meltdown. Physically holding a kicking and crying toddler on a potty doesn't seem like the best way to start this process.




How old is your toddler? Is she developmentally normal and curious?


She's almost 23 months. Yes, in fact pretty advanced (I hate saying that because it sounds ridiculous but she knows all her numbers and letters). She's just very strong willed and has never liked being moved or restrained. Anyway, we have made progress since last night! Daddy got her to sit on the toilet. Now she'll sit, working on peeing.


It isn’t for every child. I had a really strong willed independent kid and oh crap was a disaster. A crappy disaster, literally. I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone with anything other than a totally complacent toddler.




Ha ha! Yeah, the hundreds of thousands of early potty-trainers successful using Oh Crap are all “complacent”!

You just failed, PP.
Anonymous
Don’t quit. It’s a process. Don’t quit. 24 months is so much easier than 3...4...5.

we didn’t master pants at home before we left the house, though. I couldn’t be homebound that long! We just removed the pants when we got back home.
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We potty trained three kids with Oh Crap, beginning shortly after each turned two. One clicked practically overnight, one took about a month, and one took a painful 6 months, and continued to have the occasional pee accident for over a year. The one who had a hard time potty training is also the one who turned out to have ADHD.
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Just keep going! My kid is the opposite of “complacent” and is extremely independent (which is why he took to using the potty himself so quickly). He was done at 23 months.

Here is your encouragement: having a toddler who uses the toilet (with insert) to poop is the best thing ever! It also totally cured his withholding and constipation. You’re helping the environment and saving money by not using diapers for the next year. And your child looks so cute in underwear!
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Anonymous wrote:Just keep going! My kid is the opposite of “complacent” and is extremely independent (which is why he took to using the potty himself so quickly). He was done at 23 months.

Here is your encouragement: having a toddler who uses the toilet (with insert) to poop is the best thing ever! It also totally cured his withholding and constipation. You’re helping the environment and saving money by not using diapers for the next year. And your child looks so cute in underwear!



Let me add the most important part - it’s easier and far less emotional on the child to potty train before two.
Anonymous
OP here- still not going well. Its day 6 and we are still on block 1. I saw some progress on day 3, no further progress day 4. Then day 5 I had to send her back to daycare. She really wasnt ready for pants, but I had to go to work. It didnt go well. But she did pee once on the potty there (a win!) everything else accidents. AND daycare said she has to wear underwear and cant go commando moving forward. Day 6 she goes to daycare in pants and underwear and it was a disaster. All accidents. Big surprise since we are skipping several steps!

I am home with her every thurs-sunday. So tomorrow (day 8), I will obviously go back to block 1. But im so discouraged. Day 1-4 were so hard on me and I feel like we are starting all over. I have to work Mon-Wed and daycare says she has to wear underwear and pants. Will she ever get it with this requirement?? Will I be doomed to do block one every thurs-sunday?

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OP, my kid also fought the potty like it was made of hot lava. He is a neurotypical child who is very verbal and curious, and we are far from lax parents. Oh Crap did not work for us in a single weekend - it took about two months of convincing him to sit every half hour. It was painful and I’m dreading doing it again with my youngest, not gonna lie.

The advice of letting him soil himself and feel wet and uncomfortable didn’t work - he either didn’t care or thought it was funny. Going without pants didn’t work either - he thought it was hilarious to pee on the floor and didn’t mind helping us to clean up the mess. What did work was setting an alarm and bribing him to sit (find your kid’s currency - mine is book obsessed), and giving him a reward afterwards (in our case it was savory treats like a small piece of bacon or a few tortilla chips). Once he got it, we stopped the rewards and had pretty much no accidents. And he started waking up dry in the morning. He was 2.5.

Good luck - you got this!
Anonymous
We stayed in block 1 of Oh Crap for about 2 weeks, but that was mostly because it was the pandemic, and we could, and because she was withholding poops. It was a lot of two steps forward and two steps back. She had been pretty consistent and was in pants and underwear by the time she went back to daycare two months later, and it was like starting over again. At daycare, they sit kids on the potty pretty much every hour, and she was holding it all day or having 1-2 accidents a day. It took her a couple of weeks to reacclimate.
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