WNT v Holland

[Anonymous]

+1,000,000

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Like I said the Dutch speed of play was too slow to beat the USA
Yes the Dutch speed of play > the USA speed of play

Spain can do it and will. Especially against Lloyd Rapinoe and the other older players

Yes Dunn > Rapinoe

You keep posting how WNT will fall yet they keep winning. Maybe someday you’ll be right, but you’ve been wrong so many times before it won’t matter.

Exactly my thought.

"The world is catching up and will surpass us" and "we beat everyone on athletisms" crowds continue to regurgitate the same talking points fornyears as if we are not evolving as well.

We know...We know

You are overreacting. The PP was simply making a point that USWNT needs to get younger and that older players will have hard time keeping up with younger opposition from other countries. I don't think that PP was bashing our team. Do you really think that Rapinoe and Lloyd, who will be 36 and 39 by the time next world cup arrives, will be able to start against elite level opponents? Other teams are getting better so we cannot go to the next WC with players that are too old in soccer terms.

Back to back wins on the European Champions.
Back to back titles as World Champions.

More than enough young talent to fill the ranks.

Surely, I'm not the one over-reacting

Yes, you are overreacting. A simple point about aging stars makes you extremely defensive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like I said the Dutch speed of play was too slow to beat the USA
Yes the Dutch speed of play > the USA speed of play

Spain can do it and will. Especially against Lloyd Rapinoe and the other older players

Yes Dunn > Rapinoe

You keep posting how WNT will fall yet they keep winning. Maybe someday you’ll be right, but you’ve been wrong so many times before it won’t matter.

Exactly my thought.

"The world is catching up and will surpass us" and "we beat everyone on athletisms" crowds continue to regurgitate the same talking points fornyears as if we are not evolving as well.

We know...We know

You are overreacting. The PP was simply making a point that USWNT needs to get younger and that older players will have hard time keeping up with younger opposition from other countries. I don't think that PP was bashing our team. Do you really think that Rapinoe and Lloyd, who will be 36 and 39 by the time next world cup arrives, will be able to start against elite level opponents? Other teams are getting better so we cannot go to the next WC with players that are too old in soccer terms.

Back to back wins on the European Champions.
Back to back titles as World Champions.

More than enough young talent to fill the ranks.

Surely, I'm not the one over-reacting

Yes, you are overreacting. A simple point about aging stars makes you extremely defensive.

Ok. Euro-trash.

[Anonymous]

Here's the list of USWNT players, who are over 30:

Rapino (co-captain),
Lloyd (co-captain),
Long,
Morgan,
Press,
Heath,
Sauerbrunn,
O'Hara,
Krieger.

That's half the starters from the WC wining squad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like I said the Dutch speed of play was too slow to beat the USA
Yes the Dutch speed of play > the USA speed of play

Spain can do it and will. Especially against Lloyd Rapinoe and the other older players

Yes Dunn > Rapinoe

You keep posting how WNT will fall yet they keep winning. Maybe someday you’ll be right, but you’ve been wrong so many times before it won’t matter.

Exactly my thought.

"The world is catching up and will surpass us" and "we beat everyone on athletisms" crowds continue to regurgitate the same talking points fornyears as if we are not evolving as well.

We know...We know

You are overreacting. The PP was simply making a point that USWNT needs to get younger and that older players will have hard time keeping up with younger opposition from other countries. I don't think that PP was bashing our team. Do you really think that Rapinoe and Lloyd, who will be 36 and 39 by the time next world cup arrives, will be able to start against elite level opponents? Other teams are getting better so we cannot go to the next WC with players that are too old in soccer terms.

Back to back wins on the European Champions.
Back to back titles as World Champions.

More than enough young talent to fill the ranks.

Surely, I'm not the one over-reacting

Yes, you are overreacting. A simple point about aging stars makes you extremely defensive.

Ok. Euro-trash.

Still overreacting, calm down, please.

[Anonymous]

I think the posters that you say are over-reacting (one being me) are talking about the post that said we were "out possessed" and we are :going to get get caught and surpassed".....blah blah blah. Its the same BS every couple of years.

We obliterated Holland, the Euro Champions, twice now. They didn't out possess. They didn't have out legit shot. In fact, our goalie made one dive for an off frame shot. We were the ones that should have been rusty.....we weren't. We have tons of young talent. The younger Mewis looked great. Right now, everything is looking up for the future.

[Anonymous]

I posted this:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any lineup with a wing like Heath that defends and another opposite (meaning NOT Rapinoe) will be stronger.
Philosophically the USW try to overwhelm withnotessure athleticism and intensity. If a team can withstand the storm,
then they have a decent chance to break thru against US late. The Dutch are too big and slow in ball movement to succeed
Spain 🇪🇸 is the formidable opponent now.
Several players: Morgan, O’Hara, sauerbrann are all looking either rusty or old. Ertz also looks a step slower for her but still fast enough. Lloyd and Morgan now don’t press fast enough and do 1 thing only, strike on mreceived balsnin center. Time for a lot of change. Also time for a new keeper but the USW keeper rarely gets tested so hard to expose that aging.
Morgan offsides not smart today and very late on her high press, she needs to get in game shape by playing.
LaVelle is so good right now it looks like she is playing down

Someone replied:
LOL the Dutch speed of play and passing was much better over all vs the US. It could be rust but that is not the US’s game. You can see it in the way Sam Mewis and Rose Lavelle played. Playing at Man City has upped their game. US is just better from top to bottom by a lot. Crystal Dunn should be up top with that Mewis and Lavelle line.

And then I wrote this:




Like I said the Dutch speed of play was too slow to beat the USA
Yes the Dutch speed of play > the USA speed of play

Spain can do it and will. Especially against Lloyd Rapinoe and the other older players

Yes Dunn > Rapinoe


So to be clear:
1. I agree the Dutch style of play was possession based and their speed of play at that was > the US at that
2. The US really isn’t playing a possession game they are trying to play more like Liverpool
3. The aging US players are simply not as fast as they were
4. the young US players are a better fit for the team and style they are playing
5. Spain’s speed of play is > the Dutch
6. When I said Spain can and will I mean the they can and will play with a speed and precision
That will cause real problems for an aging Us team
7. I am advocating for a shift to the younger Us players - Especially if the US intends to stick with its current style of pressing and physical close downs and challenges
8. Here’s your controversy: I think if you played the aging US lineup in the next World Cup - a forward line of Pinoe , Morgan, Lloyd and the aging mids then I think the US loses that Cup
It really isn’t that controversial. Look at the age of the USMNT and the attacking possession they want to play: getting old sucks

Now back to your nastiness about how the US women will destroy the eurotrash, defy the laws of aging as Pinoe plays until she’s 50 like sir Stanley, and
Converts the world of women’s and men’s soccer into a game of college style goalkicks to 6ft mids and through balls all day. Meanwhile Rose wilts and wastes away on a team of arthritic thunder thighed pushers.
Rose is the best player in the women’s world right now and that covers a lot. At some point she is gonna let the coach know what she wants for her team in the next World Cup. Her style of play right now says give her someone to pass with that can run with her - that ain’t the geezerettes

[Anonymous]

+1 on point of view
-1 on the geezerettes, they are really nice and they throw the thunder around well

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I posted this:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any lineup with a wing like Heath that defends and another opposite (meaning NOT Rapinoe) will be stronger.
Philosophically the USW try to overwhelm withnotessure athleticism and intensity. If a team can withstand the storm,
then they have a decent chance to break thru against US late. The Dutch are too big and slow in ball movement to succeed
Spain 🇪🇸 is the formidable opponent now.
Several players: Morgan, O’Hara, sauerbrann are all looking either rusty or old. Ertz also looks a step slower for her but still fast enough. Lloyd and Morgan now don’t press fast enough and do 1 thing only, strike on mreceived balsnin center. Time for a lot of change. Also time for a new keeper but the USW keeper rarely gets tested so hard to expose that aging.
Morgan offsides not smart today and very late on her high press, she needs to get in game shape by playing.
LaVelle is so good right now it looks like she is playing down

Someone replied:
LOL the Dutch speed of play and passing was much better over all vs the US. It could be rust but that is not the US’s game. You can see it in the way Sam Mewis and Rose Lavelle played. Playing at Man City has upped their game. US is just better from top to bottom by a lot. Crystal Dunn should be up top with that Mewis and Lavelle line.

And then I wrote this:




Like I said the Dutch speed of play was too slow to beat the USA
Yes the Dutch speed of play > the USA speed of play

Spain can do it and will. Especially against Lloyd Rapinoe and the other older players

Yes Dunn > Rapinoe


So to be clear:
1. I agree the Dutch style of play was possession based and their speed of play at that was > the US at that
2. The US really isn’t playing a possession game they are trying to play more like Liverpool
3. The aging US players are simply not as fast as they were
4. the young US players are a better fit for the team and style they are playing
5. Spain’s speed of play is > the Dutch
6. When I said Spain can and will I mean the they can and will play with a speed and precision
That will cause real problems for an aging Us team
7. I am advocating for a shift to the younger Us players - Especially if the US intends to stick with its current style of pressing and physical close downs and challenges
8. Here’s your controversy: I think if you played the aging US lineup in the next World Cup - a forward line of Pinoe , Morgan, Lloyd and the aging mids then I think the US loses that Cup
It really isn’t that controversial. Look at the age of the USMNT and the attacking possession they want to play: getting old sucks

Now back to your nastiness about how the US women will destroy the eurotrash, defy the laws of aging as Pinoe plays until she’s 50 like sir Stanley, and
Converts the world of women’s and men’s soccer into a game of college style goalkicks to 6ft mids and through balls all day. Meanwhile Rose wilts and wastes away on a team of arthritic thunder thighed pushers.
Rose is the best player in the women’s world right now and that covers a lot. At some point she is gonna let the coach know what she wants for her team in the next World Cup. Her style of play right now says give her someone to pass with that can run with her - that ain’t the geezerettes

Good analysis. The real question is who are the 3 young forwards that can step in for Rapinoe, Morgan and Heath and provide the same or better quality? Do we have a young striker of Morgan's quality or a young winger with Heath's skill set?

[Anonymous]

Nobody cares outside of America. Japan’s women’s team made the final in 2015 and they didn’t have a domestic league.

Want to know why USWNT subsidize their NWSL salaries many times more the league average? You guessed it. Nobody goes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I posted this:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any lineup with a wing like Heath that defends and another opposite (meaning NOT Rapinoe) will be stronger.
Philosophically the USW try to overwhelm withnotessure athleticism and intensity. If a team can withstand the storm,
then they have a decent chance to break thru against US late. The Dutch are too big and slow in ball movement to succeed
Spain 🇪🇸 is the formidable opponent now.
Several players: Morgan, O’Hara, sauerbrann are all looking either rusty or old. Ertz also looks a step slower for her but still fast enough. Lloyd and Morgan now don’t press fast enough and do 1 thing only, strike on mreceived balsnin center. Time for a lot of change. Also time for a new keeper but the USW keeper rarely gets tested so hard to expose that aging.
Morgan offsides not smart today and very late on her high press, she needs to get in game shape by playing.
LaVelle is so good right now it looks like she is playing down

Someone replied:
LOL the Dutch speed of play and passing was much better over all vs the US. It could be rust but that is not the US’s game. You can see it in the way Sam Mewis and Rose Lavelle played. Playing at Man City has upped their game. US is just better from top to bottom by a lot. Crystal Dunn should be up top with that Mewis and Lavelle line.

And then I wrote this:




Like I said the Dutch speed of play was too slow to beat the USA
Yes the Dutch speed of play > the USA speed of play

Spain can do it and will. Especially against Lloyd Rapinoe and the other older players

Yes Dunn > Rapinoe


So to be clear:
1. I agree the Dutch style of play was possession based and their speed of play at that was > the US at that
2. The US really isn’t playing a possession game they are trying to play more like Liverpool
3. The aging US players are simply not as fast as they were
4. the young US players are a better fit for the team and style they are playing
5. Spain’s speed of play is > the Dutch
6. When I said Spain can and will I mean the they can and will play with a speed and precision
That will cause real problems for an aging Us team
7. I am advocating for a shift to the younger Us players - Especially if the US intends to stick with its current style of pressing and physical close downs and challenges
8. Here’s your controversy: I think if you played the aging US lineup in the next World Cup - a forward line of Pinoe , Morgan, Lloyd and the aging mids then I think the US loses that Cup
It really isn’t that controversial. Look at the age of the USMNT and the attacking possession they want to play: getting old sucks

Now back to your nastiness about how the US women will destroy the eurotrash, defy the laws of aging as Pinoe plays until she’s 50 like sir Stanley, and
Converts the world of women’s and men’s soccer into a game of college style goalkicks to 6ft mids and through balls all day. Meanwhile Rose wilts and wastes away on a team of arthritic thunder thighed pushers.
Rose is the best player in the women’s world right now and that covers a lot. At some point she is gonna let the coach know what she wants for her team in the next World Cup. Her style of play right now says give her someone to pass with that can run with her - that ain’t the geezerettes

Good analysis. The real question is who are the 3 young forwards that can step in for Rapinoe, Morgan and Heath and provide the same or better quality? Do we have a young striker of Morgan's quality or a young winger with Heath's skill set?

Thanks for rehashing your stupidity....and adding to it.

[Anonymous]

Did someone ask the angry squirrel to use rehash in a sentence? The truth tends to keep coming up. Calling it names doesn’t change the truth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did someone ask the angry squirrel to use rehash in a sentence? The truth tends to keep coming up. Calling it names doesn’t change the truth.

Rose Lavelle is the best player in the world that is wasting away with her thunder thigh teammates? Do you know how arrogant (and wrong) you are?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did someone ask the angry squirrel to use rehash in a sentence? The truth tends to keep coming up. Calling it names doesn’t change the truth.

Rose Lavelle is the best player in the world that is wasting away with her thunder thigh teammates? Do you know how arrogant (and wrong) you are?

Literally every player in the UEFA Champions League are better than Rose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did someone ask the angry squirrel to use rehash in a sentence? The truth tends to keep coming up. Calling it names doesn’t change the truth.

Rose Lavelle is the best player in the world that is wasting away with her thunder thigh teammates? Do you know how arrogant (and wrong) you are?

Literally every player in the UEFA Champions League are better than Rose.

Apparently not the Dutch ones...