Huge shift in Iready scores?

[Anonymous]

My 4th grade son was ahead in math last year and this year score in the 30th percentile. He did badly in multiplication facts, division, and geometry - all things taught in the last quarter of 3rd grade.

We’re applying to private school next year for our kids

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are parents really helping their kids take tests? Is that really happening???

I'm a teacher and I have kids score years ahead of their grade level on iReady. It doesn't matter how many times I tell parents that students need to take tests on their own. They still help them. We do these tests online during class and I see parents sitting next to them telling them answers. The district just wants data. It doesn't matter if it is valid.

These are the insane helicopter parents. My kid did spectacularly bad on his reading assessment. Several grades below grade level. I knew he would but now way in hell was I going to help him. The county needs to see the failing data-not that they care or will do anything about it. Nothing at home is valid but I want them to see the massive failure of DL. Why are earth are parents helping? Is an elem assessment that much of a blow to your ego if your kid bombs it??

You say nothing at home is valid, yet you want the county take your child's scores as valid and proof DL is a failure. Even if everyone cheats or whatever your theory is, it has no impact on your child's scores. They use norms that were already developed. Your child is not being compared to his current peers.

I agree that testing at home should not be weighed heavily. Some kids have noisy siblings next to them or home stress, abusive parents closeby and other things distracting them. However, this whole conspiracy theory that there is widespread cheating making your kid suffer does not hold up. Even if everyone but your child cheated, it would not affect your child's score. Also, teachers understand that if a student scores 25th percentile at school one year, 40th at school another, there is still no way the student miraculously scores 99th percentile at home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are parents really helping their kids take tests? Is that really happening???

I'm a teacher and I have kids score years ahead of their grade level on iReady. It doesn't matter how many times I tell parents that students need to take tests on their own. They still help them. We do these tests online during class and I see parents sitting next to them telling them answers. The district just wants data. It doesn't matter if it is valid.

These are the insane helicopter parents. My kid did spectacularly bad on his reading assessment. Several grades below grade level. I knew he would but now way in hell was I going to help him. The county needs to see the failing data-not that they care or will do anything about it. Nothing at home is valid but I want them to see the massive failure of DL. Why are earth are parents helping? Is an elem assessment that much of a blow to your ego if your kid bombs it??

You say nothing at home is valid, yet you want the county take your child's scores as valid and proof DL is a failure. Even if everyone cheats or whatever your theory is, it has no impact on your child's scores. They use norms that were already developed. Your child is not being compared to his current peers.

I agree that testing at home should not be weighed heavily. Some kids have noisy siblings next to them or home stress, abusive parents closeby and other things distracting them. However, this whole conspiracy theory that there is widespread cheating making your kid suffer does not hold up. Even if everyone but your child cheated, it would not affect your child's score. Also, teachers understand that if a student scores 25th percentile at school one year, 40th at school another, there is still no way the student miraculously scores 99th percentile at home.

DP. Some students are scoring overly highly due to their parents. However, other districts have published horrific declines in MAP scores, especially in black and brown students.

All due to distracting construction noise?

[Anonymous]

Where are you finding percentile scores? We just received the scaled scores but no percentile.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are parents really helping their kids take tests? Is that really happening???

I'm a teacher and I have kids score years ahead of their grade level on iReady. It doesn't matter how many times I tell parents that students need to take tests on their own. They still help them. We do these tests online during class and I see parents sitting next to them telling them answers. The district just wants data. It doesn't matter if it is valid.

These are the insane helicopter parents. My kid did spectacularly bad on his reading assessment. Several grades below grade level. I knew he would but now way in hell was I going to help him. The county needs to see the failing data-not that they care or will do anything about it. Nothing at home is valid but I want them to see the massive failure of DL. Why are earth are parents helping? Is an elem assessment that much of a blow to your ego if your kid bombs it??

You say nothing at home is valid, yet you want the county take your child's scores as valid and proof DL is a failure. Even if everyone cheats or whatever your theory is, it has no impact on your child's scores. They use norms that were already developed. Your child is not being compared to his current peers.

I agree that testing at home should not be weighed heavily. Some kids have noisy siblings next to them or home stress, abusive parents closeby and other things distracting them. However, this whole conspiracy theory that there is widespread cheating making your kid suffer does not hold up. Even if everyone but your child cheated, it would not affect your child's score. Also, teachers understand that if a student scores 25th percentile at school one year, 40th at school another, there is still no way the student miraculously scores 99th percentile at home.

DP. Some students are scoring overly highly due to their parents. However, other districts have published horrific declines in MAP scores, especially in black and brown students.

All due to distracting construction noise?

That was not the point. It could be distractions and stressors. It could be DL is not working for many kids. The thing is you can't say it's all invalid and then say it's proof DL isn't working. It is silly to worry about those cheating. It will be clear to teachers. Scores don't miraculously leap up in extremes in most cases.

[Anonymous]

Or it could be that your kid was distracted and clicking randomly while doing iReady in his bedroom while no one else was around. I think this is probably the #1 reason for a decline in test scores this fall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Or it could be that your kid was distracted and clicking randomly while doing iReady in his bedroom while no one else was around. I think this is probably the #1 reason for a decline in test scores this fall.

Not the loss of a 1/3rd of the school year last year or any summer school or any school this fall? Really? You think the #1 reason for a decline in scores is none of those things?

[Anonymous]

Where do you get the iready score? It was not with the report card. I didn't help my kid with the test so I'd like to know how they did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where do you get the iready score? It was not with the report card. I didn't help my kid with the test so I'd like to know how they did.

If your school didn't send it with the report card, reach out to either your child's teacher or the front office to ask for it.

Until this year our school didn't automatically send home iReady parent reports. You had to ask for it, then they'd mail it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Or it could be that your kid was distracted and clicking randomly while doing iReady in his bedroom while no one else was around. I think this is probably the #1 reason for a decline in test scores this fall.

This was happening in school too when it first came out. Now teachers know to watch the kids to see if they are just clicking to get to the videogames.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where do you get the iready score? It was not with the report card. I didn't help my kid with the test so I'd like to know how they did.

If your school didn't send it with the report card, reach out to either your child's teacher or the front office to ask for it.

Until this year our school didn't automatically send home iReady parent reports. You had to ask for it, then they'd mail it.

Thanks. Thats annoying they don't all just send them home. I'll think about if I truly care to see them. I was mainly interested to see if my kid's score went down over the year like it did last year. Trying to decide if we should stay here and seeing the score drop over the year makes me wonder how much of FCPS "great schools" is really due to a concentration of higher educated parents.

[Anonymous]

I now more than ever appreciate the teachers that use the iReady as a gauge, but don't lock in that the kid *is* the score whatever the score is.

[Anonymous]

IReady is really a very poor test and as a teacher, I had very little faith in it. The county was going to do away with it, and then the pandemic hit, and they needed something. I would disregard it. Just look at your child’s individual work samples and you could always download a released math test from the state education website and have him take it and see how he does. Don’t bet the farm on iReady, truly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:IReady is really a very poor test and as a teacher, I had very little faith in it. The county was going to do away with it, and then the pandemic hit, and they needed something. I would disregard it. Just look at your child’s individual work samples and you could always download a released math test from the state education website and have him take it and see how he does. Don’t bet the farm on iReady, truly.

Wish you were our kids' teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or it could be that your kid was distracted and clicking randomly while doing iReady in his bedroom while no one else was around. I think this is probably the #1 reason for a decline in test scores this fall.

Not the loss of a 1/3rd of the school year last year or any summer school or any school this fall? Really? You think the #1 reason for a decline in scores is none of those things?

If OP's kid is as smart as she says he is, then yes. You'd better believe OP had summer supplementation and a tutor.