APS hybrid/virtual split

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We only chose hybrid because there is almost no chance of it happening anytime soon and wanted to allow for the potential of hybrid if it ever rolls out in the spring. That's at least if APS sticks to the metrics it had listed when the survey was out. If they change their position from the metrics stated at the time of the survey, well then we may too.

My thinking was exact same.

The metrics will be difficult to achieve. And if they change the metrics, a whole lot of people will rightly say they want to change their choice.

They just said they are changing their metrics. A sh*&ty thing to do right after the choice closed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We only chose hybrid because there is almost no chance of it happening anytime soon and wanted to allow for the potential of hybrid if it ever rolls out in the spring. That's at least if APS sticks to the metrics it had listed when the survey was out. If they change their position from the metrics stated at the time of the survey, well then we may too.

My thinking was exact same.

The metrics will be difficult to achieve. And if they change the metrics, a whole lot of people will rightly say they want to change their choice.

They just said they are changing their metrics. A sh*&ty thing to do right after the choice closed.

So far they've only said that they're going to add the CDC school metrics to the APS dashboard, in addition to the VDH metrics they've been using. We'll see what they say next week...

I wish they would just go ahead and call it, say hybrid isn't happening anytime soon beyond level 1. Stop pushing the dates back every couple weeks and just say, the case metrics are going up and we'll reassess a more realistic timeline when they are consistently lower. I think the uncertainty is creating stress for a lot of people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We only chose hybrid because there is almost no chance of it happening anytime soon and wanted to allow for the potential of hybrid if it ever rolls out in the spring. That's at least if APS sticks to the metrics it had listed when the survey was out. If they change their position from the metrics stated at the time of the survey, well then we may too.

My thinking was exact same.

The metrics will be difficult to achieve. And if they change the metrics, a whole lot of people will rightly say they want to change their choice.

I know a bunch of families that did this as well- they don’t want to send their kids anytime soon, definitely not before the holidays but they didn’t want to lose a chance to send kids in person in the spring. I think if they waited until after the holidays and surveyed everyone in late January or February with a March starting date, more people may have went hybrid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We only chose hybrid because there is almost no chance of it happening anytime soon and wanted to allow for the potential of hybrid if it ever rolls out in the spring. That's at least if APS sticks to the metrics it had listed when the survey was out. If they change their position from the metrics stated at the time of the survey, well then we may too.

My thinking was exact same.

The metrics will be difficult to achieve. And if they change the metrics, a whole lot of people will rightly say they want to change their choice.

They just said they are changing their metrics. A sh*&ty thing to do right after the choice closed.

So far they've only said that they're going to add the CDC school metrics to the APS dashboard, in addition to the VDH metrics they've been using. We'll see what they say next week...

I wish they would just go ahead and call it, say hybrid isn't happening anytime soon beyond level 1. Stop pushing the dates back every couple weeks and just say, the case metrics are going up and we'll reassess a more realistic timeline when they are consistently lower. I think the uncertainty is creating stress for a lot of people.

I would rather they leave themselves flexibility to bring in more kids when the numbers improve. We all have access to the metrics they are using and the current case numbers. It’s pretty easy to follow along and see that it’s not happening in Nov and hearing what people are planning for thanksgiving, it’s not happening in December either. I’m thinking late January at the earliest.

[Anonymous]

We switched from Hybrid to full distance for our 1st grader. We found a program to supervise distance learning and he’s thriving. I don’t think he could handle 2 locations and 3 routines between daycare, school, asynchronous and synchronous days. In July I was desperate for any amount of social interaction for my kid. Now I have met that needs, I don’t need the additional risk and hassle of hybrid.

Anecdotally - people in pods who are working out well and are happy to stay for the same reasons I am keeping my kid in daycare.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For me it’s so much more difficult to arrange for care a couple days a week than just dealing with DL. the rolling drop off and no extended day make this a nightmare for almost all parents.

Plus kids in different grades going on different days— not useful from the childcare aspect for many families.

+1000
..and for schools trying to plan for this

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We only chose hybrid because there is almost no chance of it happening anytime soon and wanted to allow for the potential of hybrid if it ever rolls out in the spring. That's at least if APS sticks to the metrics it had listed when the survey was out. If they change their position from the metrics stated at the time of the survey, well then we may too.

My thinking was exact same.

The metrics will be difficult to achieve. And if they change the metrics, a whole lot of people will rightly say they want to change their choice.

They just said they are changing their metrics. A sh*&ty thing to do right after the choice closed.

So far they've only said that they're going to add the CDC school metrics to the APS dashboard, in addition to the VDH metrics they've been using. We'll see what they say next week...

I wish they would just go ahead and call it, say hybrid isn't happening anytime soon beyond level 1. Stop pushing the dates back every couple weeks and just say, the case metrics are going up and we'll reassess a more realistic timeline when they are consistently lower. I think the uncertainty is creating stress for a lot of people.

I would rather they leave themselves flexibility to bring in more kids when the numbers improve. We all have access to the metrics they are using and the current case numbers. It’s pretty easy to follow along and see that it’s not happening in Nov and hearing what people are planning for thanksgiving, it’s not happening in December either. I’m thinking late January at the earliest.

Flexibility is nice, but they keep pushing dates back only slightly when it is very clear things aren't going to change that much that quickly. So just stop giving out new dates and instead say they will reassess the timeline as metrics allow. They're just giving somewhat conflicting messages. On the one hand they have been very clear that they are following the metrics, they've been transparent about what those metrics are, and we can all see that we are nowhere near level 2 metrics and in fact are going in the wrong direction. On the other hand they are pushing back the hybrid dates 2 weeks at a time, as if it's a real possibility even though it's clearly not. So just connect those two messages together and be transparent about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We only chose hybrid because there is almost no chance of it happening anytime soon and wanted to allow for the potential of hybrid if it ever rolls out in the spring. That's at least if APS sticks to the metrics it had listed when the survey was out. If they change their position from the metrics stated at the time of the survey, well then we may too.

My thinking was exact same.

The metrics will be difficult to achieve. And if they change the metrics, a whole lot of people will rightly say they want to change their choice.

I know a bunch of families that did this as well- they don’t want to send their kids anytime soon, definitely not before the holidays but they didn’t want to lose a chance to send kids in person in the spring. I think if they waited until after the holidays and surveyed everyone in late January or February with a March starting date, more people may have went hybrid.

This was initially why we chose hybrid. We switched to virtual because we were worried schools would open in November even with rising cases

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We only chose hybrid because there is almost no chance of it happening anytime soon and wanted to allow for the potential of hybrid if it ever rolls out in the spring. That's at least if APS sticks to the metrics it had listed when the survey was out. If they change their position from the metrics stated at the time of the survey, well then we may too.

My thinking was exact same.

The metrics will be difficult to achieve. And if they change the metrics, a whole lot of people will rightly say they want to change their choice.

I know a bunch of families that did this as well- they don’t want to send their kids anytime soon, definitely not before the holidays but they didn’t want to lose a chance to send kids in person in the spring. I think if they waited until after the holidays and surveyed everyone in late January or February with a March starting date, more people may have went hybrid.

This was initially why we chose hybrid. We switched to virtual because we were worried schools would open in November even with rising cases

Oh and hybrid started sounding less appealing with the concurrent plan. How can a teacher teach properly if his/her attention is split between kids in the classroom and kids online? Add to this the uncertainty of schools closing for two weeks if someone gets covid, and then having asynchronous, synchronous and in person learning all in the same week. It just sounds too stressful to deal with. Oh and we have a four year old at home who we pulled out of preschool in September because it didn’t make sense to have our kindergartner at home and preschooler in school (how would we explain that to our kindergartner?) Plus it’s easier when they have each other to play with. Virtual hasn’t been great but it sounds better than hybrid

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We only chose hybrid because there is almost no chance of it happening anytime soon and wanted to allow for the potential of hybrid if it ever rolls out in the spring. That's at least if APS sticks to the metrics it had listed when the survey was out. If they change their position from the metrics stated at the time of the survey, well then we may too.

My thinking was exact same.

The metrics will be difficult to achieve. And if they change the metrics, a whole lot of people will rightly say they want to change their choice.

I know a bunch of families that did this as well- they don’t want to send their kids anytime soon, definitely not before the holidays but they didn’t want to lose a chance to send kids in person in the spring. I think if they waited until after the holidays and surveyed everyone in late January or February with a March starting date, more people may have went hybrid.

This was initially why we chose hybrid. We switched to virtual because we were worried schools would open in November even with rising cases

Oh and hybrid started sounding less appealing with the concurrent plan. How can a teacher teach properly if his/her attention is split between kids in the classroom and kids online? Add to this the uncertainty of schools closing for two weeks if someone gets covid, and then having asynchronous, synchronous and in person learning all in the same week. It just sounds too stressful to deal with. Oh and we have a four year old at home who we pulled out of preschool in September because it didn’t make sense to have our kindergartner at home and preschooler in school (how would we explain that to our kindergartner?) Plus it’s easier when they have each other to play with. Virtual hasn’t been great but it sounds better than hybrid

Wanted to add that we are already applying for private schools next fall. Smaller classes probably means they will open in the fall unlike public school which will probably be hybrid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We only chose hybrid because there is almost no chance of it happening anytime soon and wanted to allow for the potential of hybrid if it ever rolls out in the spring. That's at least if APS sticks to the metrics it had listed when the survey was out. If they change their position from the metrics stated at the time of the survey, well then we may too.

My thinking was exact same.

The metrics will be difficult to achieve. And if they change the metrics, a whole lot of people will rightly say they want to change their choice.

I know a bunch of families that did this as well- they don’t want to send their kids anytime soon, definitely not before the holidays but they didn’t want to lose a chance to send kids in person in the spring. I think if they waited until after the holidays and surveyed everyone in late January or February with a March starting date, more people may have went hybrid.

This was initially why we chose hybrid. We switched to virtual because we were worried schools would open in November even with rising cases

Oh and hybrid started sounding less appealing with the concurrent plan. How can a teacher teach properly if his/her attention is split between kids in the classroom and kids online? Add to this the uncertainty of schools closing for two weeks if someone gets covid, and then having asynchronous, synchronous and in person learning all in the same week. It just sounds too stressful to deal with. Oh and we have a four year old at home who we pulled out of preschool in September because it didn’t make sense to have our kindergartner at home and preschooler in school (how would we explain that to our kindergartner?) Plus it’s easier when they have each other to play with. Virtual hasn’t been great but it sounds better than hybrid

APS isn't doing concurrent for ES/level 2 students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We only chose hybrid because there is almost no chance of it happening anytime soon and wanted to allow for the potential of hybrid if it ever rolls out in the spring. That's at least if APS sticks to the metrics it had listed when the survey was out. If they change their position from the metrics stated at the time of the survey, well then we may too.

My thinking was exact same.

The metrics will be difficult to achieve. And if they change the metrics, a whole lot of people will rightly say they want to change their choice.

I know a bunch of families that did this as well- they don’t want to send their kids anytime soon, definitely not before the holidays but they didn’t want to lose a chance to send kids in person in the spring. I think if they waited until after the holidays and surveyed everyone in late January or February with a March starting date, more people may have went hybrid.

This is why we chose virtual.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We only chose hybrid because there is almost no chance of it happening anytime soon and wanted to allow for the potential of hybrid if it ever rolls out in the spring. That's at least if APS sticks to the metrics it had listed when the survey was out. If they change their position from the metrics stated at the time of the survey, well then we may too.

My thinking was exact same.

The metrics will be difficult to achieve. And if they change the metrics, a whole lot of people will rightly say they want to change their choice.

I know a bunch of families that did this as well- they don’t want to send their kids anytime soon, definitely not before the holidays but they didn’t want to lose a chance to send kids in person in the spring. I think if they waited until after the holidays and surveyed everyone in late January or February with a March starting date, more people may have went hybrid.

This was initially why we chose hybrid. We switched to virtual because we were worried schools would open in November even with rising cases

Oh and hybrid started sounding less appealing with the concurrent plan. How can a teacher teach properly if his/her attention is split between kids in the classroom and kids online? Add to this the uncertainty of schools closing for two weeks if someone gets covid, and then having asynchronous, synchronous and in person learning all in the same week. It just sounds too stressful to deal with. Oh and we have a four year old at home who we pulled out of preschool in September because it didn’t make sense to have our kindergartner at home and preschooler in school (how would we explain that to our kindergartner?) Plus it’s easier when they have each other to play with. Virtual hasn’t been great but it sounds better than hybrid

You don’t understand the options you were given. You should read the APS website carefully that lays out what they’re planning for K-5..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We only chose hybrid because there is almost no chance of it happening anytime soon and wanted to allow for the potential of hybrid if it ever rolls out in the spring. That's at least if APS sticks to the metrics it had listed when the survey was out. If they change their position from the metrics stated at the time of the survey, well then we may too.

My thinking was exact same.

The metrics will be difficult to achieve. And if they change the metrics, a whole lot of people will rightly say they want to change their choice.

I know a bunch of families that did this as well- they don’t want to send their kids anytime soon, definitely not before the holidays but they didn’t want to lose a chance to send kids in person in the spring. I think if they waited until after the holidays and surveyed everyone in late January or February with a March starting date, more people may have went hybrid.

This was initially why we chose hybrid. We switched to virtual because we were worried schools would open in November even with rising cases

Oh and hybrid started sounding less appealing with the concurrent plan. How can a teacher teach properly if his/her attention is split between kids in the classroom and kids online? Add to this the uncertainty of schools closing for two weeks if someone gets covid, and then having asynchronous, synchronous and in person learning all in the same week. It just sounds too stressful to deal with. Oh and we have a four year old at home who we pulled out of preschool in September because it didn’t make sense to have our kindergartner at home and preschooler in school (how would we explain that to our kindergartner?) Plus it’s easier when they have each other to play with. Virtual hasn’t been great but it sounds better than hybrid

Wanted to add that we are already applying for private schools next fall. Smaller classes probably means they will open in the fall unlike public school which will probably be hybrid.

You and everyone else. Good luck.