Anybody installing DC Covid Alert Notice (DC CAN) today?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hard pass on this.

I understand the emotion, but what is your educated reason for passing on this.

I would have thought that we could have distributed this in April and it would have been super useful, but I cannot come up with a solid reason why it would not still be useful today.

Honestly, I don’t need the stress of getting a notification if I happen to be close to someone else who tested positive. If I have symptoms, I’ll go take a test. But, there’s no real reason for me to deal with the fear and anxiety that will come from this.

[Anonymous]

Yes. Done. On all the phones in our household.

[Anonymous]

Done on mine and will have the kids enable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hard pass on this.

I understand the emotion, but what is your educated reason for passing on this.

I would have thought that we could have distributed this in April and it would have been super useful, but I cannot come up with a solid reason why it would not still be useful today.

Honestly, I don’t need the stress of getting a notification if I happen to be close to someone else who tested positive. If I have symptoms, I’ll go take a test. But, there’s no real reason for me to deal with the fear and anxiety that will come from this.

But you could still have the virus (and infect others) even if you don’t have symptoms. So this will help you avoid the additional fear and anxiety of wondering after the fact if you passed it on to someone else. No?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm still not going anywhere where this would be useful. If I pass someone hiking or on a walk around the neighborhood wearing a mask, then I don't really need to know they were infected because the chance of me getting it was almost nil. If I start working in the office or going out to eat, then sure. But until then, no way am I letting the gov't keep tabs on my whereabouts. Especially because they can link this info to basically everything you do on your phone. They don't like your social media presence because you repost antifa stuff? well then, they'll be sure to nab you at the next protest. No thanks.

1. I don't think that's how these apps work. It's proximity and time, but teaching relative proximity with bluetooth rather than GPS.

2. If the government wants your location because of protests or antifa or whatever then they already have plenty of ways to access it. Get rid of your phone, wear a Burka, and enter your home through a subterranean network of sewers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hard pass on this.

I understand the emotion, but what is your educated reason for passing on this.

I would have thought that we could have distributed this in April and it would have been super useful, but I cannot come up with a solid reason why it would not still be useful today.

Honestly, I don’t need the stress of getting a notification if I happen to be close to someone else who tested positive. If I have symptoms, I’ll go take a test. But, there’s no real reason for me to deal with the fear and anxiety that will come from this.

But you could still have the virus (and infect others) even if you don’t have symptoms. So this will help you avoid the additional fear and anxiety of wondering after the fact if you passed it on to someone else. No?

That’s not something I’m really afraid of, to be honest. I worry about my own health, and expect others to do the same. I’m not counting on anyone to protect me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm still not going anywhere where this would be useful. If I pass someone hiking or on a walk around the neighborhood wearing a mask, then I don't really need to know they were infected because the chance of me getting it was almost nil. If I start working in the office or going out to eat, then sure. But until then, no way am I letting the gov't keep tabs on my whereabouts. Especially because they can link this info to basically everything you do on your phone. They don't like your social media presence because you repost antifa stuff? well then, they'll be sure to nab you at the next protest. No thanks.

1. I don't think that's how these apps work. It's proximity and time, but teaching relative proximity with bluetooth rather than GPS.

2. If the government wants your location because of protests or antifa or whatever then they already have plenty of ways to access it. Get rid of your phone, wear a Burka, and enter your home through a subterranean network of sewers.

Can Jeff or someone confirm this (maybe with a cite) because it probably makes the difference between turning it on or not for us.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm still not going anywhere where this would be useful. If I pass someone hiking or on a walk around the neighborhood wearing a mask, then I don't really need to know they were infected because the chance of me getting it was almost nil. If I start working in the office or going out to eat, then sure. But until then, no way am I letting the gov't keep tabs on my whereabouts. Especially because they can link this info to basically everything you do on your phone. They don't like your social media presence because you repost antifa stuff? well then, they'll be sure to nab you at the next protest. No thanks.

1. I don't think that's how these apps work. It's proximity and time, but teaching relative proximity with bluetooth rather than GPS.

2. If the government wants your location because of protests or antifa or whatever then they already have plenty of ways to access it. Get rid of your phone, wear a Burka, and enter your home through a subterranean network of sewers.

Can Jeff or someone confirm this (maybe with a cite) because it probably makes the difference between turning it on or not for us.

The contact tracking protocol relies on bluetooth. GPS is specifically prohibited:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-apps-idUSKBN22G28W

Both companies said privacy and preventing governments from using the system to compile data on citizens was a primary goal. The system uses Bluetooth signals from phones to detect encounters and does not use or store GPS location data.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Installed. I'd appreciate knowing if I was in contact with someone.

And, if for some reason I do catch it I'd like to be able to give a heads up to anyone I was around.

Oh look, a citizen!
How in the flip are we not all boiling down our complicated feelings and thoughts to this very basic bottom line?

Agree with PP. Enabled the tracking device on my phone. The government can already access my whereabouts from my phone anyway. Not to mention, I'm not doing anything illegal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hard pass on this.

I understand the emotion, but what is your educated reason for passing on this.

I would have thought that we could have distributed this in April and it would have been super useful, but I cannot come up with a solid reason why it would not still be useful today.

Honestly, I don’t need the stress of getting a notification if I happen to be close to someone else who tested positive. If I have symptoms, I’ll go take a test. But, there’s no real reason for me to deal with the fear and anxiety that will come from this.

But you could still have the virus (and infect others) even if you don’t have symptoms. So this will help you avoid the additional fear and anxiety of wondering after the fact if you passed it on to someone else. No?

That’s not something I’m really afraid of, to be honest. I worry about my own health, and expect others to do the same. I’m not counting on anyone to protect me.

If there is one thing that this virus has proven to us it is that at the end of the day, people are incredibly selfish.

[Anonymous]

These apps are state, or in some cases, locality specific, and at least with the android ones, you can only have one active at a time. so while in this area it might be reasonable to have the VA, DC and (when they have one) MD apps enabled, that doesn't work.

As noted in the article, the different systems don't inter-operate:

"She added that right now, the D.C. system cannot communicate with the neighboring states, due to Virginia having a different software system and Maryland not having a contact-tracing system available for smartphones." So if the person next to you has the VA (or for anywhere else) one active and you have the DC one on you will *not* get notified if the VA person later reported a positive test into their app (which feeds into their state public health system). This is what comes from the lack of a national policy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hard pass on this.

I understand the emotion, but what is your educated reason for passing on this.

I would have thought that we could have distributed this in April and it would have been super useful, but I cannot come up with a solid reason why it would not still be useful today.

Honestly, I don’t need the stress of getting a notification if I happen to be close to someone else who tested positive. If I have symptoms, I’ll go take a test. But, there’s no real reason for me to deal with the fear and anxiety that will come from this.

This is the sanest thing I've read.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hard pass on this.

I understand the emotion, but what is your educated reason for passing on this.

I would have thought that we could have distributed this in April and it would have been super useful, but I cannot come up with a solid reason why it would not still be useful today.

Honestly, I don’t need the stress of getting a notification if I happen to be close to someone else who tested positive. If I have symptoms, I’ll go take a test. But, there’s no real reason for me to deal with the fear and anxiety that will come from this.

But you could still have the virus (and infect others) even if you don’t have symptoms. So this will help you avoid the additional fear and anxiety of wondering after the fact if you passed it on to someone else. No?

Isn't that the same with every illness under the sun?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hard pass on this.

I understand the emotion, but what is your educated reason for passing on this.

I would have thought that we could have distributed this in April and it would have been super useful, but I cannot come up with a solid reason why it would not still be useful today.

Honestly, I don’t need the stress of getting a notification if I happen to be close to someone else who tested positive. If I have symptoms, I’ll go take a test. But, there’s no real reason for me to deal with the fear and anxiety that will come from this.

But you could still have the virus (and infect others) even if you don’t have symptoms. So this will help you avoid the additional fear and anxiety of wondering after the fact if you passed it on to someone else. No?

That’s not something I’m really afraid of, to be honest. I worry about my own health, and expect others to do the same. I’m not counting on anyone to protect me.

If there is one thing that this virus has proven to us it is that at the end of the day, people are incredibly selfish.

PP here.
You just figured that out? That’s almost endearingly naive.

[Anonymous]

Bump. Wondering if those who installed the service can share their experiences. Have you received any notices regarding exposure? How has this worked out?

I'm debating installing it on my work phone, if my office says it is permitted. (I'm a fed.)