Who exactly will be managing the CARES classrooms?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If people don't want to work with children, they shouldn't have gotten a job with DC public schools. I'm all on board with central office staff working in classrooms. Up to and including the chancellor.

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Don't ask people do do what you're not wiling to do. Since this is all hands on deck, the Chancellor and the Mayor need to be in classrooms and they should work in schools in Wards 7 & 8 to boot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If people don't want to work with children, they shouldn't have gotten a job with DC public schools. I'm all on board with central office staff working in classrooms. Up to and including the chancellor.

You have an office job, right? If your boss told you that the custodian, or a secretary, or the accountant was out sick and you were going to sub in for them, how would you feel about that? Would you say that, if you didn't want to do accounting or empty trash cans you should not have taken a job at a company? Of course not.

To be clear, I am not denigrating teachers or equating their role with that of custodians or accountants (although, their work is pretty damn important, too). My only point is that your logic is absolutely bonkers.

[Anonymous]

The Chancellor and all the Chiefs and Deputy Chiefs and Directors better be in the classrooms. But we know that is not going to happen. They are only good at making ridiculous plans and imposing them on everyone else

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Perry Stein article yesterday said central office staff need to be prepared to do this.

Yes. It is this. Central office staff are in an uproar about this. They do not want to do this. They are being forced.

Maybe if they had a union .....

Aren't all DC government employees are represented by a union?
Can't say I have a ton of sympathy for them. Maybe they should have worked on a more comprehensive, imaginative plan over the last six months.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't know much about the "caring adult' in the CARES classrooms. They will NOT be staffed by teachers or other school staff. They only need to be over 18 and have passed a background check. They are to supervise the 11 students in the classroom as they learn virtually.

This is incorrect. My school will be using any available paraprofessionals and after school staff. We have also reached out to our long time subs.

The district is trying to get central office staff to do this and will be sending them a survey soon. AND surprise surprise....they DON'T want to be at a school in person. Oh but it's so safe....why not central office staff?

They don't even want to be in person in their office.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If people don't want to work with children, they shouldn't have gotten a job with DC public schools. I'm all on board with central office staff working in classrooms. Up to and including the chancellor.

You have an office job, right? If your boss told you that the custodian, or a secretary, or the accountant was out sick and you were going to sub in for them, how would you feel about that? Would you say that, if you didn't want to do accounting or empty trash cans you should not have taken a job at a company? Of course not.

To be clear, I am not denigrating teachers or equating their role with that of custodians or accountants (although, their work is pretty damn important, too). My only point is that your logic is absolutely bonkers.

This logic doesn't pan out. In the CARES classroom they'll simply be supervising not teaching.

If someone told me I'd still be paid to just watch custodians clean in person...well that's pretty cushy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If people don't want to work with children, they shouldn't have gotten a job with DC public schools. I'm all on board with central office staff working in classrooms. Up to and including the chancellor.

You have an office job, right? If your boss told you that the custodian, or a secretary, or the accountant was out sick and you were going to sub in for them, how would you feel about that? Would you say that, if you didn't want to do accounting or empty trash cans you should not have taken a job at a company? Of course not.

To be clear, I am not denigrating teachers or equating their role with that of custodians or accountants (although, their work is pretty damn important, too). My only point is that your logic is absolutely bonkers.

Not really. If you choose to work in a public school system in central office you should be prepared to be asked to be in a classroom. This isn’t like we are going around to office buildings demanding secretaries and lawyers come and watch kids. I actually think if we demanded central office workers spend more time in and in charge of classrooms there would be significantly better policies coming out of there

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If people don't want to work with children, they shouldn't have gotten a job with DC public schools. I'm all on board with central office staff working in classrooms. Up to and including the chancellor.

You have an office job, right? If your boss told you that the custodian, or a secretary, or the accountant was out sick and you were going to sub in for them, how would you feel about that? Would you say that, if you didn't want to do accounting or empty trash cans you should not have taken a job at a company? Of course not.

To be clear, I am not denigrating teachers or equating their role with that of custodians or accountants (although, their work is pretty damn important, too). My only point is that your logic is absolutely bonkers.

Not really. If you choose to work in a public school system in central office you should be prepared to be asked to be in a classroom. This isn’t like we are going around to office buildings demanding secretaries and lawyers come and watch kids. I actually think if we demanded central office workers spend more time in and in charge of classrooms there would be significantly better policies coming out of there

X10,000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If people don't want to work with children, they shouldn't have gotten a job with DC public schools. I'm all on board with central office staff working in classrooms. Up to and including the chancellor.

You have an office job, right? If your boss told you that the custodian, or a secretary, or the accountant was out sick and you were going to sub in for them, how would you feel about that? Would you say that, if you didn't want to do accounting or empty trash cans you should not have taken a job at a company? Of course not.

To be clear, I am not denigrating teachers or equating their role with that of custodians or accountants (although, their work is pretty damn important, too). My only point is that your logic is absolutely bonkers.

This logic doesn't pan out. In the CARES classroom they'll simply be supervising not teaching.

If someone told me I'd still be paid to just watch custodians clean in person...well that's pretty cushy.

There is no such thing as "supervising" a classroom full of kids ages 3-6. I don't care if those kids are experiencing the highest quality DL education you could possibly conceive of. The person in charge of that classroom is a daycare teacher, qualified or not. You are going to be on your knees on the floor, talking those kids through crying jabs and meltdowns and negotiating sharing policies and everything else a daycare teacher does.

It will not be "cushy" and I sincerely hope, for the sake of everyone involved not least the kids, that the person is adequately paid and has the proper training for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If people don't want to work with children, they shouldn't have gotten a job with DC public schools. I'm all on board with central office staff working in classrooms. Up to and including the chancellor.

You have an office job, right? If your boss told you that the custodian, or a secretary, or the accountant was out sick and you were going to sub in for them, how would you feel about that? Would you say that, if you didn't want to do accounting or empty trash cans you should not have taken a job at a company? Of course not.

To be clear, I am not denigrating teachers or equating their role with that of custodians or accountants (although, their work is pretty damn important, too). My only point is that your logic is absolutely bonkers.

This logic doesn't pan out. In the CARES classroom they'll simply be supervising not teaching.

If someone told me I'd still be paid to just watch custodians clean in person...well that's pretty cushy.

There is no such thing as "supervising" a classroom full of kids ages 3-6. I don't care if those kids are experiencing the highest quality DL education you could possibly conceive of. The person in charge of that classroom is a daycare teacher, qualified or not. You are going to be on your knees on the floor, talking those kids through crying jabs and meltdowns and negotiating sharing policies and everything else a daycare teacher does.

It will not be "cushy" and I sincerely hope, for the sake of everyone involved not least the kids, that the person is adequately paid and has the proper training for it.

You probably don't think that because you can't control your own kids for DL so a room of 11 seems difficult.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If people don't want to work with children, they shouldn't have gotten a job with DC public schools. I'm all on board with central office staff working in classrooms. Up to and including the chancellor.

You have an office job, right? If your boss told you that the custodian, or a secretary, or the accountant was out sick and you were going to sub in for them, how would you feel about that? Would you say that, if you didn't want to do accounting or empty trash cans you should not have taken a job at a company? Of course not.

To be clear, I am not denigrating teachers or equating their role with that of custodians or accountants (although, their work is pretty damn important, too). My only point is that your logic is absolutely bonkers.

This logic doesn't pan out. In the CARES classroom they'll simply be supervising not teaching.

If someone told me I'd still be paid to just watch custodians clean in person...well that's pretty cushy.

There is no such thing as "supervising" a classroom full of kids ages 3-6. I don't care if those kids are experiencing the highest quality DL education you could possibly conceive of. The person in charge of that classroom is a daycare teacher, qualified or not. You are going to be on your knees on the floor, talking those kids through crying jabs and meltdowns and negotiating sharing policies and everything else a daycare teacher does.

It will not be "cushy" and I sincerely hope, for the sake of everyone involved not least the kids, that the person is adequately paid and has the proper training for it.

I agree. I hope DCPS can find some great people for these classrooms, but I’m not counting on it. Hopefully we’ll know more by the time they start offering CARES slots to families.

[Anonymous]

The people supervising the CARES will have at least one year of college, and of course FBI back ground checks, that is it.

Glad that I can opt out of that, and people that need it most can take advantage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If people don't want to work with children, they shouldn't have gotten a job with DC public schools. I'm all on board with central office staff working in classrooms. Up to and including the chancellor.

You have an office job, right? If your boss told you that the custodian, or a secretary, or the accountant was out sick and you were going to sub in for them, how would you feel about that? Would you say that, if you didn't want to do accounting or empty trash cans you should not have taken a job at a company? Of course not.

To be clear, I am not denigrating teachers or equating their role with that of custodians or accountants (although, their work is pretty damn important, too). My only point is that your logic is absolutely bonkers.

Not really. If you choose to work in a public school system in central office you should be prepared to be asked to be in a classroom. This isn’t like we are going around to office buildings demanding secretaries and lawyers come and watch kids. I actually think if we demanded central office workers spend more time in and in charge of classrooms there would be significantly better policies coming out of there

What you don’t understand is that the rank and file central office staff have very little to do with these ham handed decisions. The top people at central do not like their authority questioned and tend to get rid of workers who push back. Yet it is the mid level and lower level folks who will be forced into classrooms while the top people who make these dumb decisions will happily continue to work from home

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If people don't want to work with children, they shouldn't have gotten a job with DC public schools. I'm all on board with central office staff working in classrooms. Up to and including the chancellor.

You have an office job, right? If your boss told you that the custodian, or a secretary, or the accountant was out sick and you were going to sub in for them, how would you feel about that? Would you say that, if you didn't want to do accounting or empty trash cans you should not have taken a job at a company? Of course not.

To be clear, I am not denigrating teachers or equating their role with that of custodians or accountants (although, their work is pretty damn important, too). My only point is that your logic is absolutely bonkers.

Not really. If you choose to work in a public school system in central office you should be prepared to be asked to be in a classroom. This isn’t like we are going around to office buildings demanding secretaries and lawyers come and watch kids. I actually think if we demanded central office workers spend more time in and in charge of classrooms there would be significantly better policies coming out of there

What you don’t understand is that the rank and file central office staff have very little to do with these ham handed decisions. The top people at central do not like their authority questioned and tend to get rid of workers who push back. Yet it is the mid level and lower level folks who will be forced into classrooms while the top people who make these dumb decisions will happily continue to work from home

Exactly why the majority of central office isn't unionized, so they can carry out the evil and those with better intent can't band together.

The solution was hybrid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If people don't want to work with children, they shouldn't have gotten a job with DC public schools. I'm all on board with central office staff working in classrooms. Up to and including the chancellor.

You have an office job, right? If your boss told you that the custodian, or a secretary, or the accountant was out sick and you were going to sub in for them, how would you feel about that? Would you say that, if you didn't want to do accounting or empty trash cans you should not have taken a job at a company? Of course not.

To be clear, I am not denigrating teachers or equating their role with that of custodians or accountants (although, their work is pretty damn important, too). My only point is that your logic is absolutely bonkers.

Not really. If you choose to work in a public school system in central office you should be prepared to be asked to be in a classroom. This isn’t like we are going around to office buildings demanding secretaries and lawyers come and watch kids. I actually think if we demanded central office workers spend more time in and in charge of classrooms there would be significantly better policies coming out of there

What you don’t understand is that the rank and file central office staff have very little to do with these ham handed decisions. The top people at central do not like their authority questioned and tend to get rid of workers who push back. Yet it is the mid level and lower level folks who will be forced into classrooms while the top people who make these dumb decisions will happily continue to work from home

Forced into classrooms? Give me a break. For all the work most of these people do, they should be subbing at least 25% of the time in a normal year. Central office has more people who push paper around and pretend to be working than I have ever seen in a school system. They are bloated.