DL - Teacher Burnout

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, what is your suggestion op? To short change the children's education even more by demanding less direct instruction time?

Open the schools to in person instruction. Problem solved!

Have you seen the projections for hoe many students and staff will be infected?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work as a digital events specialist and I would like to address the issue of teacher burnout while teaching online FT. I see this type of burnout in my own industry frequently, however it is easier to be flexible and take time to recharge. Most of our teachers have not been trained to teach in a digital environment full-time very day. Teaching online requires vastly different energy utilization and I feel that the the current proposed teaching schedules will cause massive burnout for many of our teachers.

The learning environment for our children will be completely different and each child will have a different way of adapting to this new environment and the teacher will need to adjust to this new learning environment and be able to assist their students as well as parents. The facilitation of content will be different and teachers will need to be flexible to adjust if necessary. Parents will be able to observe and question teaching styles and this may cause additional stress for teachers. Keep in mind, contrary to my own job where I facilitate perhaps a few meetings a month, the teachers will be expected to be at peak performance every day during this entire 2020/2021 school year. Expectations from their employer and parents will be high.

I don't believe that this learning model will be sustainable over the long run.

I guess the entire summer, winter break and spring break isn't enough, how about they just work 1 month a year.

[Anonymous]

Most teachers work in the summer. I work two jobs during the school year and another job in the summer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teachers spend all day with 20+ children crammed into a room. There is absolutely nothing more draining than that. I understand it is a very different type of energy utilization but it will be a huge relief compared to what they are used to in terms of energy requirements- if they didn’t burnout in the classroom, they won’t during DL...

I'm a teacher who finds leading zoom lessons way more draining than teaching in school. I don't understand why it is so much more tiring for me, but it definitely is.

[Anonymous]

OP, I'm a teacher and unfortunately don't have the flexibility and authority to design class the way I want to.

But if I could I would really likt to start the day with a 30-40 minute whole group "morning meeting" and calendar and read aloud time class meeting, and then just do small group classes the rest of the day.

I'd also like to send home paper work packets for my students, weekly. Instead of having to do everything online I want the kids to use pencil and paper for some activities. Including handwriting practice!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Teachers spend all day with 20+ children crammed into a room. There is absolutely nothing more draining than that. I understand it is a very different type of energy utilization but it will be a huge relief compared to what they are used to in terms of energy requirements- if they didn’t burnout in the classroom, they won’t during DL...

No. In over twenty years of teaching in a number of significantly different districts, countries and SES student groups, nothing was as draining as teaching on line last spring. Every nerve in your body is tense with an effort to connect with the classes. Hours and hours of preparation were essential because the things that we know work in a classroom don’t necessarily work on line. I’m thinking the reason teachers are just waking up to the fear of teaching face to face covid-ridden classes is because after the spring everyone who taught ( I don’t mean those in districts who were limited to Not introducing new material or grading) were too fried to even think about the next year. We really hoped things would be improved and we could safely return to classes. Now , we’re being told to plan for four different scenarios, and it’s hard to even determine a route. Even half time synchronous teaching is living hell. And, frankly, my students were great; they made an obvious effort to make things work. Even kids who talked over each other in class tried to listen to each other on line. There is no good solution right now, and pouring boiling oil on teachers is hardly encouraging.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, what is your suggestion op? To short change the children's education even more by demanding less direct instruction time?

Not the op. I'm pretty sure this is a gently PSA to teachers, parents, and teachers. When I switched to online teaching I was shocked out how hard it was. I wasn't prepared for how drained I felt, not to mention my voice, aches from sitting too long, stress because of internet connections or technical difficulties.

I've had tons of zoom meetings and have taken several online courses and never thought that online teaching would be so hard. It's a million times different from being a student\participant\part of a group on zoom. It took awhile to get used to. For the first few weeks all of my downtime was spent sleeping or watching netflix and just relaxing. And I recommend fellow teachers to do the same thing for the first few weeks of school. And if you don't have time, make the time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers spend all day with 20+ children crammed into a room. There is absolutely nothing more draining than that. I understand it is a very different type of energy utilization but it will be a huge relief compared to what they are used to in terms of energy requirements- if they didn’t burnout in the classroom, they won’t during DL...

I'm a teacher who finds leading zoom lessons way more draining than teaching in school. I don't understand why it is so much more tiring for me, but it definitely is.

+1.

I double dog dare every parent complaining about their child's teacher to try teaching a online course... with kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers spend all day with 20+ children crammed into a room. There is absolutely nothing more draining than that. I understand it is a very different type of energy utilization but it will be a huge relief compared to what they are used to in terms of energy requirements- if they didn’t burnout in the classroom, they won’t during DL...

No. In over twenty years of teaching in a number of significantly different districts, countries and SES student groups, nothing was as draining as teaching on line last spring. Every nerve in your body is tense with an effort to connect with the classes. Hours and hours of preparation were essential because the things that we know work in a classroom don’t necessarily work on line. I’m thinking the reason teachers are just waking up to the fear of teaching face to face covid-ridden classes is because after the spring everyone who taught ( I don’t mean those in districts who were limited to Not introducing new material or grading) were too fried to even think about the next year. We really hoped things would be improved and we could safely return to classes. Now , we’re being told to plan for four different scenarios, and it’s hard to even determine a route. Even half time synchronous teaching is living hell. And, frankly, my students were great; they made an obvious effort to make things work. Even kids who talked over each other in class tried to listen to each other on line. There is no good solution right now, and pouring boiling oil on teachers is hardly encouraging.

OP here. I'm concerned that teachers are going to quit or take LOA if the entire school year is going to be virtual. I work one virtual conference per month and it is extremely exhausting, not to mention all of the planning and preparation that goes into preparing virtual conferences and exhibits. And I'm working with ADULTS! I can only imagine how difficult and mentally draining this will be for teachers, especially for those in the younger grades.

[Anonymous]

Reading these forums with so much whining parents and teachers are draining.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers spend all day with 20+ children crammed into a room. There is absolutely nothing more draining than that. I understand it is a very different type of energy utilization but it will be a huge relief compared to what they are used to in terms of energy requirements- if they didn’t burnout in the classroom, they won’t during DL...

I'm a teacher who finds leading zoom lessons way more draining than teaching in school. I don't understand why it is so much more tiring for me, but it definitely is.

+1.

I double dog dare every parent complaining about their child's teacher to try teaching a online course... with kids.

This is why we have been saying that teaching ES age kids is an in person job. It can’t be done effectively.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers spend all day with 20+ children crammed into a room. There is absolutely nothing more draining than that. I understand it is a very different type of energy utilization but it will be a huge relief compared to what they are used to in terms of energy requirements- if they didn’t burnout in the classroom, they won’t during DL...

No. In over twenty years of teaching in a number of significantly different districts, countries and SES student groups, nothing was as draining as teaching on line last spring. Every nerve in your body is tense with an effort to connect with the classes. Hours and hours of preparation were essential because the things that we know work in a classroom don’t necessarily work on line. I’m thinking the reason teachers are just waking up to the fear of teaching face to face covid-ridden classes is because after the spring everyone who taught ( I don’t mean those in districts who were limited to Not introducing new material or grading) were too fried to even think about the next year. We really hoped things would be improved and we could safely return to classes. Now , we’re being told to plan for four different scenarios, and it’s hard to even determine a route. Even half time synchronous teaching is living hell. And, frankly, my students were great; they made an obvious effort to make things work. Even kids who talked over each other in class tried to listen to each other on line. There is no good solution right now, and pouring boiling oil on teachers is hardly encouraging.

OP here. I'm concerned that teachers are going to quit or take LOA if the entire school year is going to be virtual. I work one virtual conference per month and it is extremely exhausting, not to mention all of the planning and preparation that goes into preparing virtual conferences and exhibits. And I'm working with ADULTS! I can only imagine how difficult and mentally draining this will be for teachers, especially for those in the younger grades.

I'm confused. Teachers were adamant that they needed DL, now they have DL but they can't do DL, that's too hard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm a teacher and unfortunately don't have the flexibility and authority to design class the way I want to.

But if I could I would really likt to start the day with a 30-40 minute whole group "morning meeting" and calendar and read aloud time class meeting, and then just do small group classes the rest of the day.

I'd also like to send home paper work packets for my students, weekly. Instead of having to do everything online I want the kids to use pencil and paper for some activities. Including handwriting practice!

As an APS parent of K-2 kid, I would LOVE this set up. It makes so much more sense. The proposed APS schedule for K-2 is nuts and I don't see how it will be sustainable for anyone - kids, teachers, or parents. The proposed schedule seems designed by someone who hasn't had a young child or been in an early ed classroom in a long time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Teachers spend all day with 20+ children crammed into a room. There is absolutely nothing more draining than that. I understand it is a very different type of energy utilization but it will be a huge relief compared to what they are used to in terms of energy requirements- if they didn’t burnout in the classroom, they won’t during DL...

No. In over twenty years of teaching in a number of significantly different districts, countries and SES student groups, nothing was as draining as teaching on line last spring. Every nerve in your body is tense with an effort to connect with the classes. Hours and hours of preparation were essential because the things that we know work in a classroom don’t necessarily work on line. I’m thinking the reason teachers are just waking up to the fear of teaching face to face covid-ridden classes is because after the spring everyone who taught ( I don’t mean those in districts who were limited to Not introducing new material or grading) were too fried to even think about the next year. We really hoped things would be improved and we could safely return to classes. Now , we’re being told to plan for four different scenarios, and it’s hard to even determine a route. Even half time synchronous teaching is living hell. And, frankly, my students were great; they made an obvious effort to make things work. Even kids who talked over each other in class tried to listen to each other on line. There is no good solution right now, and pouring boiling oil on teachers is hardly encouraging.

OP here. I'm concerned that teachers are going to quit or take LOA if the entire school year is going to be virtual. I work one virtual conference per month and it is extremely exhausting, not to mention all of the planning and preparation that goes into preparing virtual conferences and exhibits. And I'm working with ADULTS! I can only imagine how difficult and mentally draining this will be for teachers, especially for those in the younger grades.

I'm confused. Teachers were adamant that they needed DL, now they have DL but they can't do DL, that's too hard.

Not all teachers wanted distance learning.

[Anonymous]

How about the parents putting in 15-18 hour days due to DL supporting their young children, meals,meals,meals, and then 7-9 hours of office work, calls, deliverables.