Best Post I’ve Seen in a Month on DL/Hybrid Choice

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Whoever wrote this should have reread it before posting. A lot of it is just totally wrong. And he comes off as self-righteous.

Can people who want DL just choose DL and stop feeling the need to force other people into it just so their kids aren’t left out of something? These over the top-long winded posts are getting out of hand.

It is not about missing out, at least not for us.

From a public health perspective, if we are able to have the option of DL, I think we should take it. If you are completely and truly strained, I get why f2f is relevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hate this post. My child has fairly severe disabilities. I cannot educate him or meet his needs at home. I feel that posts like this pretend that he and my family do not exist.

It made me feel like crap too, as I can't educate my son or meet his needs at home either. I feel like our kids are going to be left behind even more than they are now. And it makes me cry.

[Anonymous]

Oh the drama!

Oh the”read this long and suffering diatribe about why I am right and this is not a rehash of the 1000+ other same dribble!”

Btw do people realize that high school sports have started practices? Youth baseball - they are out there too. No doubt that many of these people claiming in person students are “teacher killers!” Are also the ones sending their kids back to sports because “that’s different! My kid needs the socialization/exercise/ etc and besides I can’t write self righteous commentary on that !”

[Anonymous]

I honestly wish that the county would put resources to create a truly robust DL curriculum. One that also allow for a higher level of engagement between teachers and students, and between students and students. Do opt-in for other activities, like sports and clubs, as an aside for those who want to engage in f2f.

[Anonymous]

The funny thing is - this guy just said on another post on here that he is letting his kids decide. So he’s not even following is own non-logic.

[Anonymous]

I think a region-wide, if not national, teachers strike is coming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If you’re in this camp, and I acknowledge that many, many people are, I’m asking you to consider that number from a slightly different angle.

FCPS has 189,000 children. .0016 of that is 302. 302 dead children are the Calvary Hill you’re erecting your argument on. So, let’s agree to do this: stop presenting this as a data point. If this is your argument, I challenge you to have courage equal to your conviction. Go ahead, plant a flag on the internet and say, “Only 302 children will die.” No one will. That’s the kind action on social media that gets you fired from your job. And I trust our social media enclave isn’t so careless and irresponsible with life that it would even, for even a millisecond, enter any of your minds to make such an argument.

Considered another way: You’re presented with a bag with 189,000 $1 bills. You’re told that in the bag are 302 random bills, they look and feel just like all the others, but each one of those bills will kill you. Do you take the money out of the bag?

This doesn’t make sense to me. The death rate of 0.0016 is for those children who contract the virus, not of the total population. The author is saying that if all 189K students in FCPS contract COVID, 302 of them will die.

That’s not going to happen.

There have been 1,237 cases of COVID in children ages 0-17 in Fairfax County in the last 4 months. Zero of them have died.

.0016*1237 is just under 2. If you understand statistics, that's entirely consistent with his/her post, and the numbers we have are under confinement.

Yes, the math is correct. 0.0016 of 1237 is just under 2 and 0.0016 of 189,000 is 302. The poster is incorrectly applying that probability of death to ALL 189000 students if we go back to school 2 days a week. That is an incorrect assumption. The 0.0016 statistic applies to those under 17 that have contracted COVID.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can people who want DL just choose DL and stop feeling the need to force other people into it just so their kids aren’t left out of something? These over the top-long winded posts are getting out of hand.

To be fair, it’s coming from all sides. Parents and teachers are trying to convince others to choose DL or hybrid on this board. And some of the arguments are frankly insulting to both sides. Teachers aren’t babysitters; you just want to drink wine all day; you’re putting your child’s life at risk; you’re a lazy teacher; hybrid teachers will be bottom of the barrel worst teacher’s; four teachers failed at DL; and on and on. It’s gross.

We have the info we feel we need. We made a choice. If you feel you don’t have the info you need, by all means keep asking and keep pressuring the school board. But attacking each other here is unnecessary and ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

The math in this post alone invalidates it. We are not going to let every student and teacher get COVID, as is assumed here. That's complete nonsense and just made up to get an emotional eaction.

We should doing everything we can to keep infection rates low in the community (#schoolsbeforebars) and aggressively react to any outbreak. We should also take all proposed measure (masks/cohortings/distancing/handwashing/cleaning) to keep any infections as contained as possible.

Students who can effectively learn from home should strongly consider taking that option. For kids who can't, regardless of the reason, we should do all we can to make school as safe as we can.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think a region-wide, if not national, teachers strike is coming.

Yeah, that’s not happening, at least in Virginia. It’s a right to work state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The funny thing is - this guy just said on another post on here that he is letting his kids decide. So he’s not even following is own non-logic.

Looks like he changed his mind. I understand that because I did the same. A couple weeks ago, we reluctantly let the kids decide. My girl has an extraordinary academic opportunity that she’s worked hard for three years to achieve. My boy needs the structured socialization —not what we can give him through “hanging out”. He’s not athletic really either. We let them decide based on what we thought would be offered. Having seen what is actually offered, we are now learning toward overriding their choice. It’s not worth the risk or the chaos.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The math in this post alone invalidates it. We are not going to let every student and teacher get COVID, as is assumed here. That's complete nonsense and just made up to get an emotional eaction.

We should doing everything we can to keep infection rates low in the community (#schoolsbeforebars) and aggressively react to any outbreak. We should also take all proposed measure (masks/cohortings/distancing/handwashing/cleaning) to keep any infections as contained as possible.

Students who can effectively learn from home should strongly consider taking that option. For kids who can't, regardless of the reason, we should do all we can to make school as safe as we can.

If we have such power, why are we "letting" other people get it under conditions that aren't half as bad as what attending school will entail?

It's fair to assume that most, if not all, will get it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think a region-wide, if not national, teachers strike is coming.

Yeah, that’s not happening, at least in Virginia. It’s a right to work state.

Starting May 2021 collective bargaining will be allowed in VA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hate this post. My child has fairly severe disabilities. I cannot educate him or meet his needs at home. I feel that posts like this pretend that he and my family do not exist.

I don't hate this post. It does not matter if your child has disabilities or is in a magnet program or is an athlete or a regular kid who wants to hang out with his friends. It does not matter if they are ESOL, FARMS, on grade, below or above grade level...one thing unifying them all is that no one is dispensable and everyone's health is of paramount importance. Going back to school is a very myopic want because within 3 weeks of school opening many students and many parents will fall sick and some will die.

The choice is

Being at home, not getting nicely educated, doing some weird DL, watching too much TV, wasting a year.

OR

Going to school, having a weird social and academic experience which will be a waste of time, falling sick, making others in the family fall sick, spreading the disease, losing health, wealth, earning capacity, maybe dying or developing severe disabilities. Wasting a life.


I will choose being at home and watching netflix for a year or two. Wasting a year is better than wasting a life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think a region-wide, if not national, teachers strike is coming.

Yeah, that’s not happening, at least in Virginia. It’s a right to work state.

Starting May 2021 collective bargaining will be allowed in VA

So the strike will come in May. Got it.