Intellectual Elite and the Liberals

[Anonymous]

Barbara Bush may have been politically incorrect to say what she did. But she was right.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Barbara Bush may have been politically incorrect to say what she did. But she was right.

Yeah, living in a football stadium is so much better than having your own house. I'm assuming you are not an intellectual and therefore not part of the intellectual elite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love this site for political conversation. Extremist smoke screens and generalizations never go unchallenged.

Way to criticize generalizations by making a complete generalization. Good move. No one will ever confuse you with the intellectual elite now.

You might note that in attacking that generalization (which, being about this particular forum, was arguably not a generalization), you made sure that it was not an exception to the rule it proclaimed. Which I should perhaps be sharp enough to realize was your point?

I am not the PP, by the way. But in splitting hairs like that, I may give the impression that I aspire to be part of the intellectual elite. Possible true as far as intellectual goes, but at most the intellectual hoi polloi. In Latin that's hoius intellectuallus polloius -- "hip" for short.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Barbara Bush may have been politically incorrect to say what she did. But she was right.

Yeah, living in a football stadium is so much better than having your own house. I'm assuming you are not an intellectual and therefore not part of the intellectual elite.

Agreed. I'm trying to figure out how poor and working class people who already have a roof over their heads, food in their houses, and presumably some even have jobs to go to would be better off living like refugees in a football stadium.

Now homeless people. Maybe some of them would be better off. But a family whose kids are enrolled in school and getting tutoring -- who might even be on their way to getting up and out of that neighborhood (I'm thinking of a family I know) -- it would not be an improvement to have their home and community ripped away from them.

But it just shows how Barbara Bush (god love her) is really out of touch with the way people live. I don't hold it against her. She is old and not thinking clearly and saying things she wouldn't have said in the past -- and she only said what a lot of people are thinking. But those people, like you pp, have a distorted view of low-income neighborhoods.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love this site for political conversation. Extremist smoke screens and generalizations never go unchallenged.

Way to criticize generalizations by making a complete generalization. Good move. No one will ever confuse you with the intellectual elite now.

You might note that in attacking that generalization (which, being about this particular forum, was arguably not a generalization), you made sure that it was not an exception to the rule it proclaimed. Which I should perhaps be sharp enough to realize was your point?

I am not the PP, by the way. But in splitting hairs like that, I may give the impression that I aspire to be part of the intellectual elite. Possible true as far as intellectual goes, but at most the intellectual hoi polloi. In Latin that's hoius intellectuallus polloius -- "hip" for short.

I thought hoi polloi was Greek.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:... I am not the PP, by the way. But in splitting hairs like that, I may give the impression that I aspire to be part of the intellectual elite. Possible true as far as intellectual goes, but at most the intellectual hoi polloi. In Latin that's hoius intellectuallus polloius -- "hip" for short.

I thought hoi polloi was Greek.

You're absolutely right; my Latin version was thoroughly bogus. Just trying to keep things light.

[Anonymous]

It is. She aspires for it to be latin, though.

[Anonymous]

No, she aspires to be read by William Shatner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Barbara Bush may have been politically incorrect to say what she did. But she was right.

Clearly, no one will confuse you for intellectual.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Barbara Bush may have been politically incorrect to say what she did. But she was right.

Clearly, no one will confuse you for intellectual.

I think the proper response was "Yeah, too damn far right!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:... I am not the PP, by the way. But in splitting hairs like that, I may give the impression that I aspire to be part of the intellectual elite. Possible true as far as intellectual goes, but at most the intellectual hoi polloi. In Latin that's hoius intellectuallus polloius -- "hip" for short.

I thought hoi polloi was Greek.

You're absolutely right; my Latin version was thoroughly bogus. Just trying to keep things light.

Oh I know. I was just giving you a hard time!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Barbara Bush may have been politically incorrect to say what she did. But she was right.

You can tell me. You are the same person who said that the earthquake was the best thing that could have ever happened to the Haitian people, right. You are on a roll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:... I am not the PP, by the way. But in splitting hairs like that, I may give the impression that I aspire to be part of the intellectual elite. Possible true as far as intellectual goes, but at most the intellectual hoi polloi. In Latin that's hoius intellectuallus polloius -- "hip" for short.

I thought hoi polloi was Greek.

You're absolutely right; my Latin version was thoroughly bogus. Just trying to keep things light.

Oh I know. I was just giving you a hard time!

You knew my tongue was in my cheek, so you decided to be cheeky, eh?
Do we belong in the humor forum? Is there a humor forum? More specifically (for me) a lame humor forum?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OK. Recently, I keep seeing articles about the "intellectual elite" or "educated class" always being associated with "liberals." Some articles talk about how the "intellectual elite" are "out of touch" with the country; others comment that perhaps the government should promote vocation school instead of a college education, as college is "elitist," especially in this economy; and yet others note that universities are hotbeds for liberalism. But what baffles me is that these comments are coming from folks (right wing, to be sure) who have degrees from Yale, Harvard, and the like! Am I missing something? Seriously.

You may be interested in reading an interesting book called, "What's the matter with Kansas? How conservatives won the heart of America" By Thomas Frank. Very interesting and relevant to your question.

[Anonymous]

Krauthammer had an interesting piece along this theme today:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/04/AR2010020403623.html

(Had to read online since the paper didn't make it )

This being a democracy, don't the Democrats see that clinging to this agenda will march them over a cliff? Don't they understand Massachusetts?
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Well, they understand it through a prism of two cherished axioms: (1) The people are stupid and (2) Republicans are bad. Result? <em>The dim, led by the malicious, vote incorrectly.</em>