American Academy of Pediatrics says schools should open IN PERSON

[Anonymous]

And they're WRONG. They shouldn't even be saying "open if it's safe to do so" in the current volatile context when they know very well it will be seized upon and miscontrued.

As many scientists, doctors, epidemiologists and virologists know.

But honestly the AAP has been run by morons for decades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Cool, so why is my pediatrician's office still encouraging virtual appointments right now and requiring temp checks before you're allowed into the waiting room?

Because by definition lots of those kids are sick??

I have bad news for you if you think parents are going to keep their sick kids home in the Fall.

[Anonymous]

The AAP isn't saying schools should open in person because it's safe. They are saying that the goal should be to open in person because they think that's what's best for kids. It's goal-oriented reasoning. They aren't epidemiologists, they're pediatricians. So their input about kids and child development is probably great, but their input about novel infectious diseases is less compelling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The AAP isn't saying schools should open in person because it's safe. They are saying that the goal should be to open in person because they think that's what's best for kids. It's goal-oriented reasoning. They aren't epidemiologists, they're pediatricians. So their input about kids and child development is probably great, but their input about novel infectious diseases is less compelling.

No, they're basing it on the available data on how the virus spreads among kids:

"SARS-CoV-2 appears to behave differently in children and adolescents than other common respiratory viruses, such as influenza, on which much of the current guidance regarding school closures is based. Although children and adolescents play a major role in amplifying influenza outbreaks, to date, this does not appear to be the case with SARS-CoV-2. Although many questions remain, the preponderance of evidence indicates that children and adolescents are less likely to be symptomatic and less likely to have severe disease resulting from SARS-CoV-2 infection. In addition, children may be less likely to become infected and to spread infection."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The AAP isn't saying schools should open in person because it's safe. They are saying that the goal should be to open in person because they think that's what's best for kids. It's goal-oriented reasoning. They aren't epidemiologists, they're pediatricians. So their input about kids and child development is probably great, but their input about novel infectious diseases is less compelling.

No, they're basing it on the available data on how the virus spreads among kids:

"SARS-CoV-2 appears to behave differently in children and adolescents than other common respiratory viruses, such as influenza, on which much of the current guidance regarding school closures is based. Although children and adolescents play a major role in amplifying influenza outbreaks, to date, this does not appear to be the case with SARS-CoV-2. Although many questions remain, the preponderance of evidence indicates that children and adolescents are less likely to be symptomatic and less likely to have severe disease resulting from SARS-CoV-2 infection. In addition, children may be less likely to become infected and to spread infection."

“In addition, children MAY be less likely to become infected and to spread infection.” Now, that’s a reassuring statement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The AAP isn't saying schools should open in person because it's safe. They are saying that the goal should be to open in person because they think that's what's best for kids. It's goal-oriented reasoning. They aren't epidemiologists, they're pediatricians. So their input about kids and child development is probably great, but their input about novel infectious diseases is less compelling.

No, they're basing it on the available data on how the virus spreads among kids:

"SARS-CoV-2 appears to behave differently in children and adolescents than other common respiratory viruses, such as influenza, on which much of the current guidance regarding school closures is based. Although children and adolescents play a major role in amplifying influenza outbreaks, to date, this does not appear to be the case with SARS-CoV-2. Although many questions remain, the preponderance of evidence indicates that children and adolescents are less likely to be symptomatic and less likely to have severe disease resulting from SARS-CoV-2 infection. In addition, children may be less likely to become infected and to spread infection."

“In addition, children MAY be less likely to become infected and to spread infection.” Now, that’s a reassuring statement.

That's how science works, any synopsis of reputable research that you see will almost always use phrasing like "appears to...", "the data suggests...", "indications are that...", "may be less likely...", "the preponderance of evidence...", etc. They will rarely make definitive black-and-white type statements.

[Anonymous]

So 21 year olds spread it in bars but high school kids won’t spread it?

I’m dubious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They say schools should try to open in person... if it can be done so safely.

I think we all agree on that?

Exactly. People keep citing this report as if we don't all agree and, more relevantly, as if it doesn't include the social distancing measures which are THE VERY REASON why school systems are opting for hybrid and distance learning.

We ALL believe it would be better for schools to open full-time and in person. But since the schools (well certainly FCPS, which is over capacityall over the place) can not follow any of the AAP's recommendations, then following AAP's logic, they should not open.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They say schools should try to open in person... if it can be done so safely.

I think we all agree on that?

Exactly. People keep citing this report as if we don't all agree and, more relevantly, as if it doesn't include the social distancing measures which are THE VERY REASON why school systems are opting for hybrid and distance learning.

We ALL believe it would be better for schools to open full-time and in person. But since the schools (well certainly FCPS, which is over capacityall over the place) can not follow any of the AAP's recommendations, then following AAP's logic, they should not open.

The AAP does suggest relaxing the SD requirements for elementary schools, classifying them as "lower priority", and saying that the risk reduction they achieve may not justify the harms of trying to implement them.

[Anonymous]

For ES kids adding a mask requirement easily counterbalances any reduced SD needed to allow full capacity.

[Anonymous]

The CDC told people not to wear masks and killed thousands of people. The government wants women to skip mammograms until they are 50 and not do checks for lumps. Just because some group states their own agenda does not mean humanity will not suffer because of it. Sure going to school five days a week is good for kids. But wearing masks 7 hours a day is bad for kids too. Bringing home the virus and killing their parents is bad for kids too. No group is above their own agenda even if they claim to be not bias.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They say schools should try to open in person... if it can be done so safely.

I think we all agree on that?

The problem isn't the kids getting sick - we all know this. The problem is the kids transmitting the disease to adults. I love the AAP, but what's great for kids isn't going to be necessarily great for adults.

There has been no documented case of a child infecting in adult in countries with robust contact tracing. It doesn’t happen.

I get that it’s weird - every time I have been sick in the last ten years I caught it from one of my kids. But that isn’t happening with this virus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The CDC told people not to wear masks and killed thousands of people. The government wants women to skip mammograms until they are 50 and not do checks for lumps. Just because some group states their own agenda does not mean humanity will not suffer because of it. Sure going to school five days a week is good for kids. But wearing masks 7 hours a day is bad for kids too. Bringing home the virus and killing their parents is bad for kids too. No group is above their own agenda even if they claim to be not bias.

First of all, biasED.

Second of all, kids don’t infect adults with this. They just don’t. And we don’t know if wearing masks all day is bad for kids but we know having no school is bad for kids, their parents, the economy, and the future. It is so disruptive that we need to be sure that it helps, and we aren’t, so we shouldn’t do it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Schools aren't about kids - they're about teachers. And the teachers unions are not going to sllow this.

This confirms the evil system. Ok, Ppal or teacher, this is way too much. Find another job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The CDC told people not to wear masks and killed thousands of people. The government wants women to skip mammograms until they are 50 and not do checks for lumps. Just because some group states their own agenda does not mean humanity will not suffer because of it. Sure going to school five days a week is good for kids. But wearing masks 7 hours a day is bad for kids too. Bringing home the virus and killing their parents is bad for kids too. No group is above their own agenda even if they claim to be not bias.

First of all, biasED.

Second of all, kids don’t infect adults with this. They just don’t. And we don’t know if wearing masks all day is bad for kids but we know having no school is bad for kids, their parents, the economy, and the future. It is so disruptive that we need to be sure that it helps, and we aren’t, so we shouldn’t do it.

Kids will infect adults with this when they go back to school. Anyone who states otherwise is lying. No different then when the CDC lied about face masks. It fits the agenda.