New York Times writing about parenting, please stop.

[Anonymous]

OP why don't you get outraged with people living in squalor or children living in homeless shelters rather than people living in a small space but providing their children everything they need?

[Anonymous]

We're having a third kid soon. Kid will take our bedroom. I'll float in-between there for BFing and probably sleeping on the pull-out bed the living room for breaks. That's what I did when we had DD2 because I didn't want to put her up on the third floor so young.

DS3 will share a room! With his sister! Probably for 4-5 years, so ages 2-7 ish! Quel horreur!

Step outside the bubble.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP why don't you get outraged with people living in squalor or children living in homeless shelters rather than people living in a small space but providing their children everything they need?

+1000000 sick of reading this crap too. Where are these stories about real people? Not the upper middle class whites their Readership “can relate to”?

[Anonymous]

They only thing that was strange/offputting about the article to me was that two employed adults paying less than $2000/m in rent had their two children sharing the school provided device for online learning. Was there a reason they couldn't spend $300 on a chromebook? Was that not allowed by the school? Makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

That situation is common in NY City. If course a NY publication would write about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Children stacked like inmates in their own house, everyone working too many hours for too little, toddlers in daycare so many hours of the week their parents barely know them - putting the mirror up to NY Parents and the reflection isn't good.

I can't shake the feeling that these parents are just doing something fundamentally wrong. Three kids in a one-bedroom? I mean, I get that they are doing the best they can with what they've got, but it just screams "bad judgement" to me! A well-educated, older couple, sleeping on a pull-out in their own living room is a pretty strong indication that you've made some bad choices along the way. And yes, of course, NY has its own set of rules and "normals" but I walked away from this article feeling a distinct sense of pity for these people, and yes, especially the kids.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/22/realestate/fitting-a-family-of-five-into-a-one-bedroom-in-brooklyn.html

I get that its a slow news cycle, but seriously, do we have to write long-form articles commemorating the time a man actually took care of his kid? Does it really take a pandemic for parents to notice and connect with their children?
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/19/parenting/childcare-family-relationships-coronavirus.html?action=click&algo=als_engaged2_desk_filter&block=editors_picks_recirc&fellback=false&imp_id=382670784&impression_id=341059846&index=0&pgtype=Article®ion=footer

You get that they are doing the best with what they've got? Read what you wrote and admit you don't get it at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Children stacked like inmates in their own house, everyone working too many hours for too little, toddlers in daycare so many hours of the week their parents barely know them - putting the mirror up to NY Parents and the reflection isn't good.

I can't shake the feeling that these parents are just doing something fundamentally wrong. Three kids in a one-bedroom? I mean, I get that they are doing the best they can with what they've got, but it just screams "bad judgement" to me! A well-educated, older couple, sleeping on a pull-out in their own living room is a pretty strong indication that you've made some bad choices along the way. And yes, of course, NY has its own set of rules and "normals" but I walked away from this article feeling a distinct sense of pity for these people, and yes, especially the kids.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/22/realestate/fitting-a-family-of-five-into-a-one-bedroom-in-brooklyn.html

I get that its a slow news cycle, but seriously, do we have to write long-form articles commemorating the time a man actually took care of his kid? Does it really take a pandemic for parents to notice and connect with their children?
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/19/parenting/childcare-family-relationships-coronavirus.html?action=click&algo=als_engaged2_desk_filter&block=editors_picks_recirc&fellback=false&imp_id=382670784&impression_id=341059846&index=0&pgtype=Article®ion=footer

A 2+ bedroom appt in NYC ain’t cheap. And of course, people around the world live on dirt floors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Children stacked like inmates in their own house, everyone working too many hours for too little, toddlers in daycare so many hours of the week their parents barely know them - putting the mirror up to NY Parents and the reflection isn't good.

I can't shake the feeling that these parents are just doing something fundamentally wrong. Three kids in a one-bedroom? I mean, I get that they are doing the best they can with what they've got, but it just screams "bad judgement" to me! A well-educated, older couple, sleeping on a pull-out in their own living room is a pretty strong indication that you've made some bad choices along the way. And yes, of course, NY has its own set of rules and "normals" but I walked away from this article feeling a distinct sense of pity for these people, and yes, especially the kids.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/22/realestate/fitting-a-family-of-five-into-a-one-bedroom-in-brooklyn.html

I get that its a slow news cycle, but seriously, do we have to write long-form articles commemorating the time a man actually took care of his kid? Does it really take a pandemic for parents to notice and connect with their children?
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/19/parenting/childcare-family-relationships-coronavirus.html?action=click&algo=als_engaged2_desk_filter&block=editors_picks_recirc&fellback=false&imp_id=382670784&impression_id=341059846&index=0&pgtype=Article®ion=footer

Meh? The majority of people in this world do not live in sprawling suburban houses (which doesn't mean they're somehow "lesser" than you). Their principal readership is New Yorkers, and New Yorkers both (1) live in small apartments and (2) have children.

[Anonymous]

There are so many things parents can do wrong when it comes to raising children. Living in a clean and aesthetically pleasing, though small, apartment doesn't seem to be one of them. Actually, I loved their bunk bed. Got three boys myself, and will consider that one!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are so clueless. The vast majority of the world lives as you described. Children share bedrooms, parents sleep in living rooms. Yet, they manage to raise perfectly happy, well-rounded children and adults.

American children are given way more than they ever really need (except those in poverty of course). Get a grip, OP.

Yes, multiple people different ages and sexes sharing a couple of rooms is how most the world lives. American mindset with each child in own room is not the norm.

[Anonymous]

I enjoyed the article. I think it’s interesting to see how others live. Wouldn’t be my choice, but I can appreciate why they’ve chosen it. And I wish my house was that well organized!

[Anonymous]

That's nuts to me, but to each their own. That's WAAAAAYYYY too little space for me, though being so near the park is super. What would be really cool is if they are able to rent a second 1-bedroom apartment in the same building, and use one apartment for sleeping quarters and the other apartment for daytime living. That would be great!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh OP. I haven’t read it yet, but my idea of bad parenting is taking a newborn home to a house where you put them alone in their own room 30 feet from their mother and you listen to them through an electronic device. Families that live in more intimate spaces have more intimacy, generally speaking. Look at the bond that siblings have when they share a room. I just separated my kids and I’m worried about it.

+100. The idea that you let a kid under 1 "cry it out" in a separate room is insanity to me. However, I'm not going to judge because I know that every family is different.

[Anonymous]

You haven't made any bad choices along the way, OP? Your life must have been boring as hell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That's nuts to me, but to each their own. That's WAAAAAYYYY too little space for me, though being so near the park is super. What would be really cool is if they are able to rent a second 1-bedroom apartment in the same building, and use one apartment for sleeping quarters and the other apartment for daytime living. That would be great!!

That's stupid.