GPA on a 4.0 scale

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. It isn’t very confusing. Prep Scholar is a website that gives average GPAs and test scores for each college. They are obviously using weighted grades since some schools like Harvard and MIT are above a 4.0. At my kid’s Catholic HS, only a small handful of students (maybe 15 or fewer) have taken the most rigorous course load. Students aren’t allowed to just pick whatever they want. To get to the highest math class, a student would have to test out of algebra 1 and 2 as well as geometry to be able to start 9th grade in precalculus. Last year, two students did that. There is only one AP class for freshman and one for sophomores and you can only take them by invitation.

You are a familiar face around here. No college cares if you didn’t take precalc in 9th grade, and you imply in your posts that public schools are all easy grading.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. It isn’t very confusing. Prep Scholar is a website that gives average GPAs and test scores for each college. They are obviously using weighted grades since some schools like Harvard and MIT are above a 4.0. At my kid’s Catholic HS, only a small handful of students (maybe 15 or fewer) have taken the most rigorous course load. Students aren’t allowed to just pick whatever they want. To get to the highest math class, a student would have to test out of algebra 1 and 2 as well as geometry to be able to start 9th grade in precalculus. Last year, two students did that. There is only one AP class for freshman and one for sophomores and you can only take them by invitation.

Then send your kid to public if you think that’s so easy. I don’t get why people sabotage their kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. It isn’t very confusing. Prep Scholar is a website that gives average GPAs and test scores for each college. They are obviously using weighted grades since some schools like Harvard and MIT are above a 4.0. At my kid’s Catholic HS, only a small handful of students (maybe 15 or fewer) have taken the most rigorous course load. Students aren’t allowed to just pick whatever they want. To get to the highest math class, a student would have to test out of algebra 1 and 2 as well as geometry to be able to start 9th grade in precalculus. Last year, two students did that. There is only one AP class for freshman and one for sophomores and you can only take them by invitation.

You are a familiar face around here. No college cares if you didn’t take precalc in 9th grade, and you imply in your posts that public schools are all easy grading.

+1 Nobody cares about precalc in 9th grade.

It's hilarious the PP thinks some rando catholic school is more rigorous on math and science than the most competitive publics. LOL.

[Anonymous]

I’m pretty sure MIT (along with Caltech and Harvey Mudd) explicitly expect Calculus by 12th at the bare minimum. And most kids who get in will go way beyond that. The kids who get into any of those ARE THE STEM STARS. Even the kid who got in from my podunk hometown this year (I’m in mcps now) took Ap calculus as a high school freshman and then math at a university every year after. Other elite colleges don’t have those math expectations; calc in 11th or 12th will be sufficient for lottery consideration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. It isn’t very confusing. Prep Scholar is a website that gives average GPAs and test scores for each college. They are obviously using weighted grades since some schools like Harvard and MIT are above a 4.0. At my kid’s Catholic HS, only a small handful of students (maybe 15 or fewer) have taken the most rigorous course load. Students aren’t allowed to just pick whatever they want. To get to the highest math class, a student would have to test out of algebra 1 and 2 as well as geometry to be able to start 9th grade in precalculus. Last year, two students did that. There is only one AP class for freshman and one for sophomores and you can only take them by invitation.

Then send your kid to public if you think that’s so easy. I don’t get why people sabotage their kids.

I don’t send him because he is getting a much better education where he is and he is learning what hard work is. I’ve been to both public and private schools (and so has my son) and public school is just easy. I am a public school teacher and I cringe that our top students cannot handle private schools. They don’t have the stamina for the workload.

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. It isn’t very confusing. Prep Scholar is a website that gives average GPAs and test scores for each college. They are obviously using weighted grades since some schools like Harvard and MIT are above a 4.0. At my kid’s Catholic HS, only a small handful of students (maybe 15 or fewer) have taken the most rigorous course load. Students aren’t allowed to just pick whatever they want. To get to the highest math class, a student would have to test out of algebra 1 and 2 as well as geometry to be able to start 9th grade in precalculus. Last year, two students did that. There is only one AP class for freshman and one for sophomores and you can only take them by invitation.

Then send your kid to public if you think that’s so easy. I don’t get why people sabotage their kids.

I don’t send him because he is getting a much better education where he is and he is learning what hard work is. I’ve been to both public and private schools (and so has my son) and public school is just easy. I am a public school teacher and I cringe that our top students cannot handle private schools. They don’t have the stamina for the workload.

Your son doesn't have the stamina for the workload at a competitive public or a legit private school. Enjoy St. Mediocre's.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. It isn’t very confusing. Prep Scholar is a website that gives average GPAs and test scores for each college. They are obviously using weighted grades since some schools like Harvard and MIT are above a 4.0. At my kid’s Catholic HS, only a small handful of students (maybe 15 or fewer) have taken the most rigorous course load. Students aren’t allowed to just pick whatever they want. To get to the highest math class, a student would have to test out of algebra 1 and 2 as well as geometry to be able to start 9th grade in precalculus. Last year, two students did that. There is only one AP class for freshman and one for sophomores and you can only take them by invitation.

Then send your kid to public if you think that’s so easy. I don’t get why people sabotage their kids.

I don’t send him because he is getting a much better education where he is and he is learning what hard work is. I’ve been to both public and private schools (and so has my son) and public school is just easy. I am a public school teacher and I cringe that our top students cannot handle private schools. They don’t have the stamina for the workload.

I hope you get fired.

"public school'' ain't a monolith. Yeah, full ib is a walk in at the park

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m pretty sure MIT (along with Caltech and Harvey Mudd) explicitly expect Calculus by 12th at the bare minimum. And most kids who get in will go way beyond that. The kids who get into any of those ARE THE STEM STARS. Even the kid who got in from my podunk hometown this year (I’m in mcps now) took Ap calculus as a high school freshman and then math at a university every year after. Other elite colleges don’t have those math expectations; calc in 11th or 12th will be sufficient for lottery consideration.

You think most kids who get into MIT took AP Calc in 9th grade? Clueless!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m pretty sure MIT (along with Caltech and Harvey Mudd) explicitly expect Calculus by 12th at the bare minimum. And most kids who get in will go way beyond that. The kids who get into any of those ARE THE STEM STARS. Even the kid who got in from my podunk hometown this year (I’m in mcps now) took Ap calculus as a high school freshman and then math at a university every year after. Other elite colleges don’t have those math expectations; calc in 11th or 12th will be sufficient for lottery consideration.

You think most kids who get into MIT took AP Calc in 9th grade? Clueless!

Ok, 10th is more like it. But this kid took it in 9th.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP here. The kids who got into HYP or similar in the last couple years--none were valedictorians.

False. I did.

[Anonymous]

Harvard's common data set GPA = 4.18. Harvard, at least, is using weighted GPA.

https://oir.harvard.edu/files/huoir/files/harvard_cds_2018-19.pdf#page=10

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Harvard's common data set GPA = 4.18. Harvard, at least, is using weighted GPA.

https://oir.harvard.edu/files/huoir/files/harvard_cds_2018-19.pdf#page=10

OP here. Exactly. This is what I mean. If the reported GPA is below 4.0, how are you supposed to know if they are using weighted or unweighted?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard's common data set GPA = 4.18. Harvard, at least, is using weighted GPA.

https://oir.harvard.edu/files/huoir/files/harvard_cds_2018-19.pdf#page=10

OP here. Exactly. This is what I mean. If the reported GPA is below 4.0, how are you supposed to know if they are using weighted or unweighted?

The PP of that Harvard GPA here. From what I can tell, there is no one standard for that field on the common data set. Which is infuriating, because it makes it hard to gauge where your kid's GPA lands for that school. They should set a standard for it and the schools abide by it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Harvard's common data set GPA = 4.18. Harvard, at least, is using weighted GPA.

https://oir.harvard.edu/files/huoir/files/harvard_cds_2018-19.pdf#page=10

OP here. Exactly. This is what I mean. If the reported GPA is below 4.0, how are you supposed to know if they are using weighted or unweighted?

The PP of that Harvard GPA here. From what I can tell, there is no one standard for that field on the common data set. Which is infuriating, because it makes it hard to gauge where your kid's GPA lands for that school. They should set a standard for it and the schools abide by it.

Just look at sat scores or naviance. They can’t make a standard because every high school grades differently: weighted, unweighted, 5.0 scale, 6.0 scale, 100% scale, 4.0 scale, no grades at all