For people with black colleagues

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"We show up for work anyway. And we contain our rage, tears, fear and sadness. .... We don’t take our pain to work."

That's because work is not the place for it. This is called being professional. It might surprise you how many of your coworkers (of all races) are struggling to get out of bed in the morning and put on a happy face for Zoom meetings. Does the author really think that only Blacks have agonized over hospitalized relatives and the real possibility that they will die alone? And how about the millions of people who don't even have co-workers anymore because their jobs disappeared?

"On behalf of your Black colleagues: we’re not okay. And you shouldn’t be either."

News flash: We aren't.

This post sums up DCUM in a nutshell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This article expresses what they may be feeling right now and urges non-POCs to have empathy: https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/05/9841376/black-trauma-george-floyd-dear-white-people

Blah blah blah blah let's riot that solves everything blah blah blah

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This article expresses what they may be feeling right now and urges non-POCs to have empathy: https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/05/9841376/black-trauma-george-floyd-dear-white-people

Blah blah blah blah let's riot that solves everything blah blah blah

Is the author encouraging folks to riot? I missed that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"We show up for work anyway. And we contain our rage, tears, fear and sadness. .... We don’t take our pain to work."

That's because work is not the place for it. This is called being professional. It might surprise you how many of your coworkers (of all races) are struggling to get out of bed in the morning and put on a happy face for Zoom meetings. Does the author really think that only Blacks have agonized over hospitalized relatives and the real possibility that they will die alone? And how about the millions of people who don't even have co-workers anymore because their jobs disappeared?

"On behalf of your Black colleagues: we’re not okay. And you shouldn’t be either."

News flash: We aren't.

This post sums up DCUM in a nutshell.

Yep. “That’s enough about you. Don’t you see how hard it is for me? Wah.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"...others have had to navigate surviving a pandemic in a country they were actually never meant to live in"?
Ummm...is the author trying to apply this statement to black people in 2020 USA? Why the need to add manufactured drama to an already understandably-traumatic event? It's enough on its own without this type of hyperbolic nonsense that distracts from the issue that a black man was killed by a white cop in broad daylight.

An understandably traumatic event that is killing black and brown people at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. Is that you call “manufactured drama”?

No. You either misread (or misunderstood) my reference. The "manufactured drama" is the part where the author implies that in 2020, people of color are challenged with the task of navigating surviving a pandemic "in a country they were actually never meant to live in"
Perhaps their ancestors were "never meant to live in" this country? But by that standard, mine weren't either. It's just a strangely divisive setup when one isn't needed. The ACTUAL issue isn't that at all. It is what YOU called out about black and brown people being killed at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. This other stuff about how certain people "were actually never meant to live in" is a red herring.

Were your ancestors brought here by force - on a slave ship?

Google indentured servants. Slave labor for decades until their “debt” was paid off.

Scots were sent here against their will after the rebellion.

What about the Jewish people who were resettled here during the holocaust or in the aftermath?

Not apples to apples (since nothing ever is), but yes, there are plenty of whites whose ancestors were slave labor or forcibly resettled here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:"...others have had to navigate surviving a pandemic in a country they were actually never meant to live in"?
Ummm...is the author trying to apply this statement to black people in 2020 USA? Why the need to add manufactured drama to an already understandably-traumatic event? It's enough on its own without this type of hyperbolic nonsense that distracts from the issue that a black man was killed by a white cop in broad daylight.

An understandably traumatic event that is killing black and brown people at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. Is that you call “manufactured drama”?

No. You either misread (or misunderstood) my reference. The "manufactured drama" is the part where the author implies that in 2020, people of color are challenged with the task of navigating surviving a pandemic "in a country they were actually never meant to live in"
Perhaps their ancestors were "never meant to live in" this country? But by that standard, mine weren't either. It's just a strangely divisive setup when one isn't needed. The ACTUAL issue isn't that at all. It is what YOU called out about black and brown people being killed at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. This other stuff about how certain people "were actually never meant to live in" is a red herring.

Were your ancestors brought here by force - on a slave ship?

Google indentured servants. Slave labor for decades until their “debt” was paid off.

Scots were sent here against their will after the rebellion.

What about the Jewish people who were resettled here during the holocaust or in the aftermath?

Not apples to apples (since nothing ever is), but yes, there are plenty of whites whose ancestors were slave labor or forcibly resettled here.

Good luck discussing world history with a dc bubble inhabitant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"...others have had to navigate surviving a pandemic in a country they were actually never meant to live in"?
Ummm...is the author trying to apply this statement to black people in 2020 USA? Why the need to add manufactured drama to an already understandably-traumatic event? It's enough on its own without this type of hyperbolic nonsense that distracts from the issue that a black man was killed by a white cop in broad daylight.

An understandably traumatic event that is killing black and brown people at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. Is that you call “manufactured drama”?

No. You either misread (or misunderstood) my reference. The "manufactured drama" is the part where the author implies that in 2020, people of color are challenged with the task of navigating surviving a pandemic "in a country they were actually never meant to live in"
Perhaps their ancestors were "never meant to live in" this country? But by that standard, mine weren't either. It's just a strangely divisive setup when one isn't needed. The ACTUAL issue isn't that at all. It is what YOU called out about black and brown people being killed at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. This other stuff about how certain people "were actually never meant to live in" is a red herring.

Were your ancestors brought here by force - on a slave ship?

Google indentured servants. Slave labor for decades until their “debt” was paid off.

Scots were sent here against their will after the rebellion.


What about the Jewish people who were resettled here during the holocaust or in the aftermath?

Not apples to apples (since nothing ever is), but yes, there are plenty of whites whose ancestors were slave labor or forcibly resettled here.

But they weren't whipped and chained. They weren't stripped of their identity and sold for a dollar. Come on.

[Anonymous]

Back OT - i think this was a great question. So now what? Ignore and not say anything? Like nothing is happening? It seems like the easy way, but I’m not sure it’s the correct way. My office is still FT T/W and we usually do check in and just talk about stuff for a minute or two before getting down to business. I’m not sure I have words or it’s my place as a “white woman of privelage” to say anything.

[Anonymous]

its sad because I never in my 32 years of live, have I seen a racist cop or a racist person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Back OT - i think this was a great question. So now what? Ignore and not say anything? Like nothing is happening? It seems like the easy way, but I’m not sure it’s the correct way. My office is still FT T/W and we usually do check in and just talk about stuff for a minute or two before getting down to business. I’m not sure I have words or it’s my place as a “white woman of privelage” to say anything.

I think the answer is to never post or speak about the injustices that you are experiencing. That’s what i have learned this weekend IRL and on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:"...others have had to navigate surviving a pandemic in a country they were actually never meant to live in"?
Ummm...is the author trying to apply this statement to black people in 2020 USA? Why the need to add manufactured drama to an already understandably-traumatic event? It's enough on its own without this type of hyperbolic nonsense that distracts from the issue that a black man was killed by a white cop in broad daylight.

An understandably traumatic event that is killing black and brown people at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. Is that you call “manufactured drama”?

No. You either misread (or misunderstood) my reference. The "manufactured drama" is the part where the author implies that in 2020, people of color are challenged with the task of navigating surviving a pandemic "in a country they were actually never meant to live in"
Perhaps their ancestors were "never meant to live in" this country? But by that standard, mine weren't either. It's just a strangely divisive setup when one isn't needed. The ACTUAL issue isn't that at all. It is what YOU called out about black and brown people being killed at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. This other stuff about how certain people "were actually never meant to live in" is a red herring.

Were your ancestors brought here by force - on a slave ship?

Google indentured servants. Slave labor for decades until their “debt” was paid off.

Scots were sent here against their will after the rebellion.

What about the Jewish people who were resettled here during the holocaust or in the aftermath?

Not apples to apples (since nothing ever is), but yes, there are plenty of whites whose ancestors were slave labor or forcibly resettled here.

You can’t just gloss over this with “not apples to apples.” I am curious if you are familiar with the many scholarly and lay-press articles that address the many(!) differences between chattel slavery and indentured servitude (which I don’t think anyone is saying was a cushy gig.) Have you read things like that and don’t agree? Or think the differences are just minor insignificant ones?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:its sad because I never in my 32 years of live, have I seen a racist cop or a racist person.

I am truly happy for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"...others have had to navigate surviving a pandemic in a country they were actually never meant to live in"?
Ummm...is the author trying to apply this statement to black people in 2020 USA? Why the need to add manufactured drama to an already understandably-traumatic event? It's enough on its own without this type of hyperbolic nonsense that distracts from the issue that a black man was killed by a white cop in broad daylight.

An understandably traumatic event that is killing black and brown people at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. Is that you call “manufactured drama”?

No. You either misread (or misunderstood) my reference. The "manufactured drama" is the part where the author implies that in 2020, people of color are challenged with the task of navigating surviving a pandemic "in a country they were actually never meant to live in"
Perhaps their ancestors were "never meant to live in" this country? But by that standard, mine weren't either. It's just a strangely divisive setup when one isn't needed. The ACTUAL issue isn't that at all. It is what YOU called out about black and brown people being killed at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. This other stuff about how certain people "were actually never meant to live in" is a red herring.

Were your ancestors brought here by force - on a slave ship?

Google indentured servants. Slave labor for decades until their “debt” was paid off.

Scots were sent here against their will after the rebellion.

What about the Jewish people who were resettled here during the holocaust or in the aftermath?

Not apples to apples (since nothing ever is), but yes, there are plenty of whites whose ancestors were slave labor or forcibly resettled here.

You can’t just gloss over this with “not apples to apples.” I am curious if you are familiar with the many scholarly and lay-press articles that address the many(!) differences between chattel slavery and indentured servitude (which I don’t think anyone is saying was a cushy gig.) Have you read things like that and don’t agree? Or think the differences are just minor insignificant ones?

The fact is - the article is about issues facing a particular group in the society - but we shouldn’t talk about that group. We should erase/ignore and move on to something else. But, let me stop - before I face more abuse from my “progressive” DMV neighbors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:its sad because I never in my 32 years of live, have I seen a racist cop or a racist person.

I have.

Frequently black.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"...others have had to navigate surviving a pandemic in a country they were actually never meant to live in"?
Ummm...is the author trying to apply this statement to black people in 2020 USA? Why the need to add manufactured drama to an already understandably-traumatic event? It's enough on its own without this type of hyperbolic nonsense that distracts from the issue that a black man was killed by a white cop in broad daylight.

An understandably traumatic event that is killing black and brown people at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. Is that you call “manufactured drama”?

No. You either misread (or misunderstood) my reference. The "manufactured drama" is the part where the author implies that in 2020, people of color are challenged with the task of navigating surviving a pandemic "in a country they were actually never meant to live in"
Perhaps their ancestors were "never meant to live in" this country? But by that standard, mine weren't either. It's just a strangely divisive setup when one isn't needed. The ACTUAL issue isn't that at all. It is what YOU called out about black and brown people being killed at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. This other stuff about how certain people "were actually never meant to live in" is a red herring.

Were your ancestors brought here by force - on a slave ship?

Google indentured servants. Slave labor for decades until their “debt” was paid off.

Scots were sent here against their will after the rebellion.

What about the Jewish people who were resettled here during the holocaust or in the aftermath?

Not apples to apples (since nothing ever is), but yes, there are plenty of whites whose ancestors were slave labor or forcibly resettled here.

Indentured laborers were set free when their debt was paid. More importantly, their status was not hereditary. You cannot compare white indentured servitude to black chattel slavery.

Further, the low status of blacks continued and continues. Were Scottish people prevented from voting? Could they sit on a jury? Could they get a government-backed mortgage? Were they prevented from benefiting from the GI bill? Were they lynched for looking at certain women? Were they lynched for no real reason? And on and on.