For people with black colleagues

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Anonymous wrote:"...others have had to navigate surviving a pandemic in a country they were actually never meant to live in"?
Ummm...is the author trying to apply this statement to black people in 2020 USA? Why the need to add manufactured drama to an already understandably-traumatic event? It's enough on its own without this type of hyperbolic nonsense that distracts from the issue that a black man was killed by a white cop in broad daylight.

An understandably traumatic event that is killing black and brown people at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. Is that you call “manufactured drama”?

No. You either misread (or misunderstood) my reference. The "manufactured drama" is the part where the author implies that in 2020, people of color are challenged with the task of navigating surviving a pandemic "in a country they were actually never meant to live in"
Perhaps their ancestors were "never meant to live in" this country? But by that standard, mine weren't either. It's just a strangely divisive setup when one isn't needed. The ACTUAL issue isn't that at all. It is what YOU called out about black and brown people being killed at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. This other stuff about how certain people "were actually never meant to live in" is a red herring.

Were your ancestors brought here by force - on a slave ship?

Google indentured servants. Slave labor for decades until their “debt” was paid off.

Scots were sent here against their will after the rebellion.

What about the Jewish people who were resettled here during the holocaust or in the aftermath?

Not apples to apples (since nothing ever is), but yes, there are plenty of whites whose ancestors were slave labor or forcibly resettled here.

Indentured laborers were set free when their debt was paid. More importantly, their status was not hereditary. You cannot compare white indentured servitude to black chattel slavery.

Further, the low status of blacks continued and continues. Were Scottish people prevented from voting? Could they sit on a jury? Could they get a government-backed mortgage? Were they prevented from benefiting from the GI bill? Were they lynched for looking at certain women? Were they lynched for no real reason? And on and on.

I agree with you 100000% - but most of the folks on this board won’t. But I’m sure they act like the most “woke” people IRL.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"...others have had to navigate surviving a pandemic in a country they were actually never meant to live in"?
Ummm...is the author trying to apply this statement to black people in 2020 USA? Why the need to add manufactured drama to an already understandably-traumatic event? It's enough on its own without this type of hyperbolic nonsense that distracts from the issue that a black man was killed by a white cop in broad daylight.

An understandably traumatic event that is killing black and brown people at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. Is that you call “manufactured drama”?

No. You either misread (or misunderstood) my reference. The "manufactured drama" is the part where the author implies that in 2020, people of color are challenged with the task of navigating surviving a pandemic "in a country they were actually never meant to live in"
Perhaps their ancestors were "never meant to live in" this country? But by that standard, mine weren't either. It's just a strangely divisive setup when one isn't needed. The ACTUAL issue isn't that at all. It is what YOU called out about black and brown people being killed at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. This other stuff about how certain people "were actually never meant to live in" is a red herring.

Were your ancestors brought here by force - on a slave ship?

Google indentured servants. Slave labor for decades until their “debt” was paid off.

Scots were sent here against their will after the rebellion.

What about the Jewish people who were resettled here during the holocaust or in the aftermath?

Not apples to apples (since nothing ever is), but yes, there are plenty of whites whose ancestors were slave labor or forcibly resettled here.

Bro, I can't even tell you what country my ancestors are from. I grew up doing those family tree assignments not being able to go back any further than my great grandparents. I look in the mirror and wonder if the light skin and grey eyes that I have are the same ones of the men who raped my ancestors. I live every day with a last name that was given to my family by the people who owned my ancestors as property. The pain of these realities are not manufactured drama.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"...others have had to navigate surviving a pandemic in a country they were actually never meant to live in"?
Ummm...is the author trying to apply this statement to black people in 2020 USA? Why the need to add manufactured drama to an already understandably-traumatic event? It's enough on its own without this type of hyperbolic nonsense that distracts from the issue that a black man was killed by a white cop in broad daylight.

An understandably traumatic event that is killing black and brown people at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. Is that you call “manufactured drama”?

No. You either misread (or misunderstood) my reference. The "manufactured drama" is the part where the author implies that in 2020, people of color are challenged with the task of navigating surviving a pandemic "in a country they were actually never meant to live in"
Perhaps their ancestors were "never meant to live in" this country? But by that standard, mine weren't either. It's just a strangely divisive setup when one isn't needed. The ACTUAL issue isn't that at all. It is what YOU called out about black and brown people being killed at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. This other stuff about how certain people "were actually never meant to live in" is a red herring.

Were your ancestors brought here by force - on a slave ship?

Google indentured servants. Slave labor for decades until their “debt” was paid off.

Scots were sent here against their will after the rebellion.

What about the Jewish people who were resettled here during the holocaust or in the aftermath?

Not apples to apples (since nothing ever is), but yes, there are plenty of whites whose ancestors were slave labor or forcibly resettled here.

Bro, I can't even tell you what country my ancestors are from. I grew up doing those family tree assignments not being able to go back any further than my great grandparents. I look in the mirror and wonder if the light skin and grey eyes that I have are the same ones of the men who raped my ancestors. I live every day with a last name that was given to my family by the people who owned my ancestors as property. The pain of these realities are not manufactured drama.

Amen!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"...others have had to navigate surviving a pandemic in a country they were actually never meant to live in"?
Ummm...is the author trying to apply this statement to black people in 2020 USA? Why the need to add manufactured drama to an already understandably-traumatic event? It's enough on its own without this type of hyperbolic nonsense that distracts from the issue that a black man was killed by a white cop in broad daylight.

I thought that phrase was stunning and thought provoking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"...others have had to navigate surviving a pandemic in a country they were actually never meant to live in"?
Ummm...is the author trying to apply this statement to black people in 2020 USA? Why the need to add manufactured drama to an already understandably-traumatic event? It's enough on its own without this type of hyperbolic nonsense that distracts from the issue that a black man was killed by a white cop in broad daylight.

An understandably traumatic event that is killing black and brown people at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. Is that you call “manufactured drama”?

No. You either misread (or misunderstood) my reference. The "manufactured drama" is the part where the author implies that in 2020, people of color are challenged with the task of navigating surviving a pandemic "in a country they were actually never meant to live in"
Perhaps their ancestors were "never meant to live in" this country? But by that standard, mine weren't either. It's just a strangely divisive setup when one isn't needed. The ACTUAL issue isn't that at all. It is what YOU called out about black and brown people being killed at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. This other stuff about how certain people "were actually never meant to live in" is a red herring.

Were your ancestors brought here by force - on a slave ship?

Google indentured servants. Slave labor for decades until their “debt” was paid off.

Scots were sent here against their will after the rebellion.


What about the Jewish people who were resettled here during the holocaust or in the aftermath?

Not apples to apples (since nothing ever is), but yes, there are plenty of whites whose ancestors were slave labor or forcibly resettled here.

But they weren't whipped and chained. They weren't stripped of their identity and sold for a dollar. Come on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom
As with slaves, serfs could be bought, sold, or traded, with some limitations: they generally could be sold only together with land (with the exception of the kholops in Russia and villeins in gross in England who could be traded like regular slaves), could be abused with no rights over their own bodies, could not leave the land they were bound to, and could marry only with their lord's permission.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"...others have had to navigate surviving a pandemic in a country they were actually never meant to live in"?
Ummm...is the author trying to apply this statement to black people in 2020 USA? Why the need to add manufactured drama to an already understandably-traumatic event? It's enough on its own without this type of hyperbolic nonsense that distracts from the issue that a black man was killed by a white cop in broad daylight.

An understandably traumatic event that is killing black and brown people at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. Is that you call “manufactured drama”?

No. You either misread (or misunderstood) my reference. The "manufactured drama" is the part where the author implies that in 2020, people of color are challenged with the task of navigating surviving a pandemic "in a country they were actually never meant to live in"
Perhaps their ancestors were "never meant to live in" this country? But by that standard, mine weren't either. It's just a strangely divisive setup when one isn't needed. The ACTUAL issue isn't that at all. It is what YOU called out about black and brown people being killed at a much higher rate than anyone else in the society. This other stuff about how certain people "were actually never meant to live in" is a red herring.

Were your ancestors brought here by force - on a slave ship?

Google indentured servants. Slave labor for decades until their “debt” was paid off.

Scots were sent here against their will after the rebellion.


What about the Jewish people who were resettled here during the holocaust or in the aftermath?

Not apples to apples (since nothing ever is), but yes, there are plenty of whites whose ancestors were slave labor or forcibly resettled here.

But they weren't whipped and chained. They weren't stripped of their identity and sold for a dollar. Come on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serfdom
As with slaves, serfs could be bought, sold, or traded, with some limitations: they generally could be sold only together with land (with the exception of the kholops in Russia and villeins in gross in England who could be traded like regular slaves), could be abused with no rights over their own bodies, could not leave the land they were bound to, and could marry only with their lord's permission.

Thanks for the history lesson. I get it now. Your people had it way worse than mine. You solved racism with one post on DCUM. Cool!